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Showing Original Post only (View all)Why Reverse Racism Isn't Real [View all]
This came across my FB feed this AM and I couldn't help but put it in the context of DU.
I spend a lot of time on the internet. I write in various places on the internet, I interact in lively and active commenting communities at different websites, and I partake in a multitude of online forums that have an ongoing and pretty continuous stream of communication between the contributors. Ya know what Ive noticed? Any time a PoC starts to talk about their experiences with racism, a white person chimes in to derail the conversation and talk about their own experiences with reverse racism. And yes, Im going to say any time and not sometimes because I have never once been in an internet dialogue amongst commenters and observed a PoC bring up their experience with real, actual, systemic or overt racism and not encountered a white person trying to make it all about their experiences with perceived racism. Not once. It happens every time. Ya know what else? That shit is tired, played out, and incorrect. So lets talk about why reverse racism isnt real and why white people need to let that one go.
Racism exists when prejudice+power combine to form social constructs, legislation and widespread media bias that contribute to the oppression of the rights and liberties of a group of people. Racism is systemic, institutional, and far reaching. It is the prevalence of racism within social structures and institutional norms, along with implicit and explicit enforcement by members of a group, that allows racism to run rampant and unchecked. America is a country seeped in white privilege, and our social structure is built on colonization and forced slave labor that then turned into further systemic and ongoing oppression of PoC. We have a culture that presents whiteness as the norm and all else as other or different. White is presented as the beauty ideal, the main face in the media (unless were talking about criminals, then PoC get unfairly misrepresented), the standard, the regular. Its a structural problem that affects the perceptions of jurors in criminal cases, admissions to colleges, funding for public schools, welfare and food stamp programs, the redrawing of district lines that affect where we vote, who we see represented on T.V. and how, what schools people have access to, what neighborhoods people live in, an individuals shopping experience, access to goods and services; its extensive and a part of the fabric that lets whiteness remain dominant in American culture.
When Im online talking to people and a PoC is sharing their experience with racism, Im listening and I am learning. This is an experience I will probably never have in my lifetime, simply because of the skin I was born into. I need to know what I can do to be a better ally and to make the world a more equal place one interaction at a time. So I observe, I listen, I join the conversation, and I try to understand. Inevitably, here comes a white person either claiming that they have a similar experience because they grew up in an all black neighborhood and got chased on the way home from school a few times, or because their black friend tried to touch their straight hair one time without permission and OMG THAT IS SO RACIST and it is the exact same thing, or some other such bullshittery, and they expect that ignorance to be suffered in silence and with respect. If you are that kid who got chased after school, thats horrible, and I feel bad for you. And if you are that person who had another person try to touch you without your permission, that was wrong of them, and Im sorry that happened to you. But dudes, that shit is not racism.
The situations in which you, fellow white person, were involved were unfortunate and inappropriate, this is true. But to claim that these experiences were reverse racism both diminishes and minimalizes the real and actual experiences of PoC who really do encounter racism. There is no system of oppression in America that actively works to oppress and subjugate white people. Sorry to break it to you, but your individual suffering is just that, individual. The individuals acting against you do not have the institutionalized power to actively oppress you in every facet of your life, nor would their racism be upheld and supported by government, media, and legislation if they did. Because youre white.
Racism exists when prejudice+power combine to form social constructs, legislation and widespread media bias that contribute to the oppression of the rights and liberties of a group of people. Racism is systemic, institutional, and far reaching. It is the prevalence of racism within social structures and institutional norms, along with implicit and explicit enforcement by members of a group, that allows racism to run rampant and unchecked. America is a country seeped in white privilege, and our social structure is built on colonization and forced slave labor that then turned into further systemic and ongoing oppression of PoC. We have a culture that presents whiteness as the norm and all else as other or different. White is presented as the beauty ideal, the main face in the media (unless were talking about criminals, then PoC get unfairly misrepresented), the standard, the regular. Its a structural problem that affects the perceptions of jurors in criminal cases, admissions to colleges, funding for public schools, welfare and food stamp programs, the redrawing of district lines that affect where we vote, who we see represented on T.V. and how, what schools people have access to, what neighborhoods people live in, an individuals shopping experience, access to goods and services; its extensive and a part of the fabric that lets whiteness remain dominant in American culture.
When Im online talking to people and a PoC is sharing their experience with racism, Im listening and I am learning. This is an experience I will probably never have in my lifetime, simply because of the skin I was born into. I need to know what I can do to be a better ally and to make the world a more equal place one interaction at a time. So I observe, I listen, I join the conversation, and I try to understand. Inevitably, here comes a white person either claiming that they have a similar experience because they grew up in an all black neighborhood and got chased on the way home from school a few times, or because their black friend tried to touch their straight hair one time without permission and OMG THAT IS SO RACIST and it is the exact same thing, or some other such bullshittery, and they expect that ignorance to be suffered in silence and with respect. If you are that kid who got chased after school, thats horrible, and I feel bad for you. And if you are that person who had another person try to touch you without your permission, that was wrong of them, and Im sorry that happened to you. But dudes, that shit is not racism.
The situations in which you, fellow white person, were involved were unfortunate and inappropriate, this is true. But to claim that these experiences were reverse racism both diminishes and minimalizes the real and actual experiences of PoC who really do encounter racism. There is no system of oppression in America that actively works to oppress and subjugate white people. Sorry to break it to you, but your individual suffering is just that, individual. The individuals acting against you do not have the institutionalized power to actively oppress you in every facet of your life, nor would their racism be upheld and supported by government, media, and legislation if they did. Because youre white.
More a link: http://feminspire.com/why-reverse-racism-isnt-real/
I wonder what her DU name is. I also think the same can and should be said about sexism.
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I have no idea where you got the idea there had to be a "system" of racism for it to be racism.
Kurska
Jul 2014
#5
I don't think your article is a more credible source for the definition of words than the dictionary
Kurska
Jul 2014
#7
yuck it up. I'm not sure what's so ROFL hilarious about asking people to listen and learn
PeaceNikki
Jul 2014
#9
Empathy for what? Claiming that certain actions aren't racist, because of skin color of the doer?
Kurska
Jul 2014
#13
I don't think your article is a more credible source for the definition of words than the dictionary
AlbertCat
Jul 2014
#28
The author made clear in context that racism was being defined in this piece as institutional
Gormy Cuss
Jul 2014
#90
The author made clear in context that racism was being defined in this piece as institutional
AlbertCat
Jul 2014
#136
They don't agree with it, because that isn't how the word is used by vast majority of people.
Kurska
Jul 2014
#69
I love how you ignored the entire middle part of my post. Which was the substance of my argument.
Kurska
Jul 2014
#86
"the vast majority of people do not agree with the definition of racism you're advocating. "
alp227
Jul 2014
#105
So what is the word, then, for systemic, institutional and pervasive oppression and discrimination
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2014
#11
Yes I do have a valid point. Here's the thing, if any individual expresses animus
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2014
#16
Yep, racist whites in South Africa are just as reprehensible as racist whites in the USA,
Nye Bevan
Jul 2014
#37
Black control in South Africa if you can call it that, has existed for a hot minute if that?
politicaljunkie41910
Jul 2014
#57
I love this post man, and I commented on it upthread, I am behind the times today....
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2014
#193
Just as you stated in your OP, everytime one tries to have a conversation about racism
politicaljunkie41910
Jul 2014
#41
So how exactly are we white people disadvantaged or oppressed in American society?
nomorenomore08
Jul 2014
#137
I just don't like seeing people use "Racism goes both ways!" as an excuse for false equivalencies.
nomorenomore08
Jul 2014
#163
What "current bad behavior" would that be? Other than individuals being assholes?
nomorenomore08
Jul 2014
#165
I don't see specific examples of that, but I will agree that rudeness and unkindness shouldn't be
nomorenomore08
Jul 2014
#195
Racism is the privileging of one racial group over another. But people of any race can play into it.
nomorenomore08
Jul 2014
#138
The problem is people use false equivalencies to obscure who is actually impacted by racism.
nomorenomore08
Jul 2014
#149
"the idea that it's really okay for anyone outside the dominant cultural group to BE hateful and
nomorenomore08
Jul 2014
#152
"...pretending individual racial animus magically exists only in the dominant group."
nomorenomore08
Jul 2014
#158
and please know I'm right there beside you every time I see it happening here
PeaceNikki
Jul 2014
#14
I'm wondering along with you the relevance and value of what the author is trying to do here.
stevenleser
Jul 2014
#162
Maybe that is not what they are trying to say, but it has that connotation. It's dismissive.
stevenleser
Jul 2014
#175
Such a term would be found by LGBT people of color, women in particular I'd guess
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2014
#192
As I typically defer to the LGBT community on matters of sexuality ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2014
#194
I can recognize when someone is looking for a fight rather than an honest discussion.
PeaceNikki
Jul 2014
#43
And then it just turns into a snark-fest to see who can get the nastiest dig in.
PeaceNikki
Jul 2014
#125
But if the fundamental underlying assumption of the article can't be questioned
mythology
Jul 2014
#144
I have never stated, nor did the article, that "only white people are capable of bigotry"
PeaceNikki
Jul 2014
#29
"dismissing the systematic and institutional factors of oppressed groups" no one is doing this
Kurska
Jul 2014
#63
Again, why is your definition more valid than the definition found in every single dictionary? n/t
Kurska
Jul 2014
#52
I agree that there is no such thing as "reverse racism", and never use the term myself.
Nye Bevan
Jul 2014
#2
Except white people (at least in the U.S.) have never been systematically oppressed or discriminated
nomorenomore08
Jul 2014
#139
"...a backlash projection invented by whites who don't want to look inward..."
nomorenomore08
Jul 2014
#140
I think the larger point isn't the semantics of the word, but the general idea that
PeaceNikki
Jul 2014
#23
Simply using the term 'reverse racism' is an acknowledgement by the user that
Gormy Cuss
Jul 2014
#24
Thank you PeaceNikki for trying to educate people today in a concise, thorough and rationally
politicaljunkie41910
Jul 2014
#26
Tim Wise wrote a great piece about it that he republished during the Trayvon Martin murder
PeaceNikki
Jul 2014
#36
I believe racism has enjoyed a resurgence in this country due to the demonization of
Dustlawyer
Jul 2014
#68
You are being pedantic. There is great benefit in pointing out institutional racism is
KittyWampus
Jul 2014
#87
And I dislike the way so many are so stuck on the term/word that that ignore the larger
PeaceNikki
Jul 2014
#96
It truly is. I expected some deflection/diversion, but not as much as I see.
PeaceNikki
Jul 2014
#178
There is no "reverse racism" because the reverse of racism isn't someone else being a bigot too.
TheKentuckian
Jul 2014
#153
"I think asians are harder working and smarter than whites" is edgy, cheeky and fun.
lumberjack_jeff
Jul 2014
#159