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frylock

(34,825 posts)
12. happy to oblige..
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 03:43 PM
Jul 2014

not that it's going to make any difference to you, or the small group of posters that continue to ignore these facts.

6) This current Gaza conflict began with Hamas rocket fire on 30 June 2014

Times of Israel: "Hamas operatives were behind a large volley of rockets which slammed into Israel Monday morning, the first time in years the Islamist group has directly challenged the Jewish state, according to Israeli defense officials.. The security sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity, assessed that Hamas had probably launched the barrage in revenge for an Israeli airstrike several hours earlier which killed one person and injured three more.. Hamas hasn't fired rockets into Israel since Operation Pillar of Defense ended in November 2012." The Nation: "During ten days of Operation Brother's Keeper in the West Bank [before the start of the Gaza conflict], Israel arrested approximately 800 Palestinians without charge or trial, killed nine civilians and raided nearly 1,300 residential, commercial and public buildings. Its military operation targeted Hamas members released during the Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange in 2011."

8) Hamas provoked Israel by kidnapping and killing three Israeli teenagers

Jewish Daily Forward: "The [Israeli] government had known almost from the beginning that the boys were dead. It maintained the fiction that it hoped to find them alive as a pretext to dismantle Hamas' West Bank operations.. Nor was that the only fib. It was clear from the beginning that the kidnappers weren't acting on orders from Hamas leadership in Gaza or Damascus. Hamas' Hebron branch -- more a crime family than a clandestine organization -- had a history of acting without the leaders' knowledge, sometimes against their interests." BBC correspondent Jon Donnison: "Israeli police MickeyRosenfeld tells me men who killed 3 Israeli teens def lone cell, hamas affiliated but not operating under leadership.. Seems to contradict the line from Netanyahu government."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025305108

Don't you think the rocket attacks that proceeded the IDF operation had something to do with it? nt hack89 Jul 2014 #1
Oh, come on. Get real. ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2014 #2
So give me a couple of examples of this "debunking" hack89 Jul 2014 #3
Oh, man. here we go again. ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2014 #5
I knew you had nothing. nt hack89 Jul 2014 #7
you are so full of it. ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2014 #21
happy to oblige.. frylock Jul 2014 #12
not sure it was actually an invitation for info bigtree Jul 2014 #24
of course it wasn't.. frylock Jul 2014 #25
Debunk doesn't mean an alternative argument was offered. TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #16
I'm going to make this clear for you. You're free to disagree bigtree Jul 2014 #6
"Hamas will pay,"??? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #11
horrible bigtree Jul 2014 #14
how very telegenic frylock Jul 2014 #26
Yes. It was ever so generous of Israel to supply the models for the photo-shoot. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #27
It's weird how out of the innumerable crimes Israel commits against the Palestinians cpwm17 Jul 2014 #35
this is true, cpwm bigtree Jul 2014 #36
FFS malaise Jul 2014 #31
Trying to end Hamas? 4Q2u2 Jul 2014 #4
If they believe they can 'finish off' any group of people who exist BECAUSE of all the killing and sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #19
Israel was just looking for an excuse to kill Gazans. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #8
Why does Israel want to kill Gazans? oberliner Jul 2014 #10
Because they exist. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #13
They existed a month ago oberliner Jul 2014 #18
Because Hamas and Fatah had formed a unity government and they were going to hold elections. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #28
Thanks oberliner Jul 2014 #30
Why don't you ask the Israelis? Maybe the racist crowds in Tel Aviv will give you a hint. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #15
Because Israelis are racists? oberliner Jul 2014 #17
Well, they certainly have at least two openly racist members of their parliament. Nothing has been sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #20
plus, those videos of cheering Israelis, each time a new missile/bomb/shell explodes in Gaza ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2014 #22
As do most countries oberliner Jul 2014 #23
We, the US, have zero moral authority, a priceless quality we lost when we invaded a country based sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #32
Good points oberliner Jul 2014 #34
Israel hated/was scared to death of unity between the PA and Hamas. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #9
Hamas did something alright, they formed a unity government with Fatah and were going to hold Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #29
I believe you got it exactly right, Uncle Joe. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #33
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