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JackRiddler

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42. Yes, it's about power more than science, but what about the science?
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 05:34 PM
Aug 2014

The real science, as opposed to what the pro-GMO fakers and pretend "skeptics" say, already speaks to the problems of flooding the world with BT and the like. (Apparently judges in some places are starting to get it.)

Curiously they seem to have different forms of science in most advanced industrial nations outside the United States, especially the ones not blessed with a beautiful glorious Monsanto of their own.

Honest-to-God high-tech countries ban GMOs and seem to think really bizarre things, like that micro-evolution by artificial selection actually works -- by which I mean that over-applying pesticides, herbicides and antibiotics is a really bad idea that's likely sooner or later to fuck over monoculture agriculture, if not a few hundred million people in the process. But hey, who's done the controlled study of this?! We get to find out the shocking answer about whether the theory of micro-evolution works in an uncontrolled study using the planet as the test case.

As another example, a bit off-topic, it's also the case that in almost all of these countries outside the U.S., they have this weird, pseudo-scientific idea that fluoride is not a tasty medicine for which ALCOA should receive billions in payments in exchange for allowing everyone to apply it to their teeth via its ingestion in drinking water. They actually think it's a pollutant, and don't want to pay public funds to administer it to their reservoirs. (This is why, for example, Germany's so toothless and they can't afford a dentist. They're all barefoot over there, it's shocking.)

Why does the world hate science, LWolf? Is it because they hate America?

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the present issue is more simple -- the issue is freedom, not science or economics KurtNYC Aug 2014 #1
Meaning? JackRiddler Aug 2014 #2
bump JackRiddler Aug 2014 #3
She very calmly goes through the problems and debunked claims of GMO advocates KurtNYC Aug 2014 #4
Gates and the Foundation... JackRiddler Aug 2014 #6
Dr. Lorrin Pang is another calm voice raising genuine concerns Brother Buzz Aug 2014 #7
Milllenia of 'genetic experiments' have shown inbreeding to be a bad idea. GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #5
They don't think. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #8
They could, at least, label their products and let the people decide. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #9
Indeed they could. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #10
No! That would cut into profits! Profits Before People! closeupready Aug 2014 #15
bump JackRiddler Aug 2014 #11
I find it interesting that "GMO" usually prompts a swarm JackRiddler Aug 2014 #12
and bump! JackRiddler Aug 2014 #13
and bump for an illuminating phenomenon. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #14
It is interesting, isn't it? nt bananas Aug 2014 #27
Continuing to illustrate. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #16
K&R marmar Aug 2014 #17
I'm sorry I didn't see your thread on Friday, when my rec might have meant more. scarletwoman Aug 2014 #18
NDT has spoken wisechoice Aug 2014 #19
NDT is a brilliant scientist but he's wrong here.. and I deconstructed some of his "nuances" on Cha Aug 2014 #20
Some waffle, some blowhard. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #22
I agree.. The more I read NDT's "nuances" on GMOs the more ridiculous they are, imv. GMOs are the Cha Aug 2014 #26
More than this, an endorsement of capitalism as it is. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #28
Mahalo for this vid from Moyers and Vandana Shiva, JR. Cha Aug 2014 #21
Mahalo back atcha. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #24
People should learn and think for themselves. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #23
knr roody Aug 2014 #25
thanks! JackRiddler Aug 2014 #29
"Pro-science" fakers do moronic and irrational hit-piece against Shiva. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #30
Use logic and peer-reviewed evidence to support your claims. HuckleB Aug 2014 #31
Thank you for kicking this important thread. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #32
It's important if your aim is to make money on "organic" lies. HuckleB Aug 2014 #33
Thank you for kicking this important thread. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #34
you need some reasoning power wisechoice Aug 2014 #36
You need to understand that there is no logical, evidentiary basis for labeling. HuckleB Aug 2014 #46
New documentary on "Debt and Suicide" JackRiddler Aug 2014 #35
Kick to counteract the ignorant character assassination one aimed at Shiva.. Cha Aug 2014 #37
Here's some "science" for those who claim their precious toxic GMOs are "anti-woo".. lol Cha Aug 2014 #38
Thanks for adding this here! JackRiddler Aug 2014 #41
''Monopolize Food Production'' Octafish Aug 2014 #39
This ought to be the first response LWolf Aug 2014 #40
Yes, it's about power more than science, but what about the science? JackRiddler Aug 2014 #42
The part of the world that hates science LWolf Aug 2014 #43
Your anecdotal experience fits with the big data JackRiddler Aug 2014 #44
That's fascinating. LWolf Aug 2014 #48
Provincialism. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #49
Oh, and very well summarized: JackRiddler Aug 2014 #45
K&R raouldukelives Aug 2014 #47
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