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daredtowork

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54. To help clarify this
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 12:13 AM
Aug 2014

I encouraged Texas to post the details of this because the work requirements for Food Stamps contradicted his need to establish he was disabled for Texas disability benefits, and of course SSI/SSDI.

There is a similar issue in California's welfare policy, at least in the Oakland area. Look at this situation:

1) You are on General Assistance Welfare. That means all the welfare "assistance" is going directly to your Landlord. The only additional resource you can get is SNAP (Food Stamps). You get no cash in pocket for any sort of necessities, or to make up the short fall if G.A. doesn't completely cover your rent.

2) The major reason for getting General Assistance on a year-round basis (as opposed to 3 months out of the year) is that you are disabled - i.e., unable to do substantial work.

3) You are in the process of applying for SSI/SSDI - a very stressful and risky process that takes years - which requires you to ESTABLISH you are unable to do substantial work.

4) If you have an advocate, they will advise you not to work.

5) You get regular notices from Social Services warning that if you do work and don't report it, you will be punished by fines, jail time etc. (but click the link in my sig to see what happens if you do report work).

6) If you try to stay work ready by enrolling with the Dept. of Rehabilitation, attending employment-related activities, or volunteering, you run the risk of this being interpreted as "ability to work". The pressure is on the side of doing these things, but the risk you are constantly taking causes stress.

7) All well-meaning people will advise you to "volunteer" to get back out in the world. I found myself offering that advice to Texas!

So these are the variables you are working with. But when push comes to shove, you need stuff like light bulbs and toilet paper and a way to pay the PG&E bill and a way to take the bus to the 1001 appointments you're required to show up at. So no matter how crappy you feel, you end up doing something that will get you those necessities. It might mean shacking up with the wrong person. It might mean doing things you'd never imagine you'd do back when you lived in the "real world" of mainstream work: mainly because that's the only way to get the stuff you need to survive.

I find it suspicious that welfare policies in both "hard ass" Texas and "liberal" California have this same contradiction that forces disabled people to either break their disability case by officially working or by getting their necessities "somehow" (probably a way beneath human dignity). The underlying assumption seems to be that disability is a "choice", and that people will "choose" to work instead of , say, prostituting themselves, sliding into homelessness, stealing, begging in the street, etc.

This tacit assumption needs to be brought into the open.

K&R.... daleanime Aug 2014 #1
Missed TY to this one daredtowork Aug 2014 #20
No need to thank me...... daleanime Aug 2014 #22
I think if people really saw the causes, we'd deal with it daredtowork Aug 2014 #27
Unfortunately, the big monied people own Congress truedelphi Aug 2014 #38
The disempowerment problem daredtowork Aug 2014 #39
A big K&R. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #2
Good luck tomorrow renate Aug 2014 #3
Thank you for your support. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #9
Are You Able to Do Volunteer Activities? daredtowork Aug 2014 #18
Pardon me for not getting back in touch with you earlier. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #43
Food Stamps are attached to work? daredtowork Aug 2014 #46
Yes, there are work requirements in order for a single person to receive food stamps (SNAP). TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #52
To help clarify this daredtowork Aug 2014 #54
In addition, if a recipient tries to collect on SNAP benefits TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #53
The other big stressor in here daredtowork Aug 2014 #55
See post #43. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #44
I'm so glad!! renate Aug 2014 #49
Illustrates the point daredtowork Aug 2014 #4
thank you for posting this....maybe it will wake up some of the masses Stargazer99 Aug 2014 #6
The Biggest Problem Is No One Can See It daredtowork Aug 2014 #10
btw daredtowork Aug 2014 #5
I was on Lyrica between six to seven years. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #8
That's another problem daredtowork Aug 2014 #12
It's true tht some days can be worse than others. No Vested Interest Aug 2014 #13
wise advice daredtowork Aug 2014 #15
Thank you. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #45
So happy for your good news re staying No Vested Interest Aug 2014 #48
Antipoverty programs are being sacrificed at the altar of tax cuts for the wealthy. LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #7
You may have misunderstood the word "reform" daredtowork Aug 2014 #14
I understood perfectly well what reform meant. LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #24
Yes the Clintons came in with a trumpets blaring daredtowork Aug 2014 #28
It is a matter of changing the trend of our national conversation. LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #35
I agree, but you're wrong about the church daredtowork Aug 2014 #36
I don't think we have an argument. LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #37
I totally agree - church programs do nothing to lift people out of poverty daredtowork Aug 2014 #40
Oh, snap maced666 Aug 2014 #47
churches should understand the reason why daredtowork Aug 2014 #50
btw daredtowork Aug 2014 #51
Rec! progressoid Aug 2014 #11
TY for the Tiger Power daredtowork Aug 2014 #16
K&R rpannier Aug 2014 #17
TY for the K and the R daredtowork Aug 2014 #19
It's important for people to know about rpannier Aug 2014 #21
If you participate on other forums, bring it up daredtowork Aug 2014 #30
Kick and Rec! Excellent OP and informative bulletin. nt adirondacker Aug 2014 #23
Thank you! daredtowork Aug 2014 #31
K&R Moosepoop Aug 2014 #25
The Irony daredtowork Aug 2014 #32
A friend once said that the stress of being poor was like the panic you feel when drowning riderinthestorm Aug 2014 #26
It Does Feel Like Drowning daredtowork Aug 2014 #33
Thank you for posting this Tree-Hugger Aug 2014 #29
I keep hoping neurons can be regenerated daredtowork Aug 2014 #34
K & R - excellen graphic and OP. Even more insightful discussion thread. salin Aug 2014 #41
Thank You daredtowork Aug 2014 #42
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