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In reply to the discussion: If you want people on the left to vote for HRC IF she's nominated, MAKE A CASE FOR HER! [View all]JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)126. Notice they are not trying to get Hillary supporters to switch.
They don't have an alternative candidate.
If they want us to switch, then they need to argue for their preferred candidate.
I've already got a candidate I like, and if things remain the same, I'll be voting for her.
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If you want people on the left to vote for HRC IF she's nominated, MAKE A CASE FOR HER! [View all]
Ken Burch
Sep 2014
OP
I agree. And I'd add that people need look past a four year term. SCOTUS nominations last decades.
PeaceNikki
Sep 2014
#7
Do you even know Hillary record? The arguments that folks accuse Hillary of have the same depth as
still_one
Sep 2014
#71
Because those asking are not really Democrats....they are the Independents that THINK
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2014
#10
EXACTLY.....they don't want a President.....they want a messiah that can fix everything....
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2014
#190
I don't have to be 'satisfied' to win my vote (since I am 'a far leftist'.)
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Sep 2014
#115
You are taking the same attitude that Rahm Emanuel did, implying "we don't have a choice"...
cascadiance
Sep 2014
#142
the ONLY case I need is she is a Democrat that will kick the Republican fields ASS!
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2014
#8
Exactly...How fucking dare these Independents declare that WE must convince them....
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2014
#19
You can't just call anyone who won't unquestioningly back HRC an "Independent"
Ken Burch
Sep 2014
#27
IF she wins the primary and they don't.....they are an Independent by default sorry....
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2014
#41
What would matter is what they did on Election Day...NOT what they say they'd do today.
Ken Burch
Sep 2014
#46
to YOU maybe.....I don't know about you....but my agenda is to talk to Democrats
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2014
#49
The Democratic ticket needs the support of progressive independents in order to win in the fall.
Ken Burch
Sep 2014
#54
but I don't have to just stand by and listen to their whiny asses complain about Democrats
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2014
#56
THESE Independents we were talking about....You know...those that cannot accept
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2014
#72
NOT if they say they won't vote in the Primaries if so and so is the winner they are not....
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2014
#88
OH YES the hell there HAS! That is why I ask that question around here....
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2014
#92
Independents? :( Maybe if the Republicans would nominate an Eisenhower (thought they won't)
cascadiance
Sep 2014
#133
YOU are the one calling them Corporatists...notice that those that REALLY support Democrats
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2014
#143
I am MORE of a Democrat than the so-called "centrist" BS Koch-based takeover of the party!
cascadiance
Sep 2014
#147
You are not more Democrat than someone who AGREES to vote for whomever their FELLOW Democrats
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2014
#151
She hasn't declared herself a candidate yet, let alone win ANY primary elections yet...
cascadiance
Sep 2014
#157
You don't have to listen to anyone or anything, but be clear on this:
DisgustipatedinCA
Sep 2014
#149
It IS how it is....that is the difference between a Democrat who believes in Democracy
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2014
#160
I think you are confused and don't understand why newer democracies use parliamentary...
cascadiance
Sep 2014
#166
Not me. You better go look up what 'strawman argument' actually means
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Sep 2014
#53
Yeah YOU.....you want to hold someone who canvassed for a Republican when they were
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2014
#144
Why would you canvas for a candidate you would not vote for, if I may ask? Thanks. nt
Mnemosyne
Sep 2014
#155
Yes Hillary worked for Goldwater campaign, she became disillusioned, voted in 1968 for a Democrat.
Thinkingabout
Sep 2014
#55
Policies. And Hillary's are conservative Republican with the exception of a few social issues.
Scuba
Sep 2014
#40
Really. Do you even know what you are talking about. Please tell me which of these issues in her
still_one
Sep 2014
#67
Somebody out there posted a long list of her accomplishments over the years
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Sep 2014
#9
Its not just copy and paste if it is all readily publically available...
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2014
#16
Oh wow, playground insults! Chicken, yeah, that'll really make me change my mind.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Sep 2014
#18
This "left" just LOVES having H-1B indentured servant program grow doesn't it!
cascadiance
Sep 2014
#134
If I wanted to argue with people who don't have at least a foregone assumption that they'll vote for
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2014
#57
Because there isn't a single Repub who is to the left of her, and I'll vote for the most progressive
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#68
You already know the answer. It's the same one people gave you in every election since Bush 2000
aikoaiko
Sep 2014
#77
It's not arrogant to ask posters to make their case when imploring others to vote for Hillary.
Maedhros
Sep 2014
#176
But..but..all she has to do is have a (D) after her name and be "not as bad" as a rabid piranha.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Sep 2014
#89
I think this OP is ridiculous. Her record stands on her own. See the link below
still_one
Sep 2014
#95
I am concerned about HRC, if for no other reason than the mass media's onslaught to ensure
Half-Century Man
Sep 2014
#104
These types of threads are having the opposite effect on me, matter of fact
theHandpuppet
Sep 2014
#129
There are a number of candidates who I believe are qualified and I would vote for them
theHandpuppet
Sep 2014
#141
I'm REALLY not interested in making the case for my preferred candidate prior to about Feb, 2015.
MohRokTah
Sep 2014
#171
Are we talking suitcase, legal case, brief case...hand bag....traveling case?
MissMarple
Sep 2014
#181