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busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
22. But...This tells a different story.
Sat Sep 20, 2014, 02:09 AM
Sep 2014

Part of an Blog from the Daily Kos:

The always-sharp Bob Johnson asked about sources, because the article I quoted above does no citing. Here are sources going back as far as 2009:
Report: Unprecedented Number Of Death Threats Against Obama -- And Secret Service Overwhelmed via TPM

The Boston Globe reports that a new internal Congressional Research Service report and government sources say there are an unprecedented number of death threats against President Obama -- and that the Secret Service is insufficiently funded and staffed to deal with them.
Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service via The Telegraph:
Since Mr Obama took office, the rate of threats against the president has increased 400 per cent from the 3,000 a year or so under President George W. Bush, according to Ronald Kessler, author of In the President's Secret Service.
Death threats quadrupled over Bush–and, boy, was Bush a hated man. So the next time some right-winger says, "Oh, this isn't so different from all the threats Bush faced," you have my personal permission to tell her or him to eat Seamus dogshit for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and a midnight snick-snack too.
UPDATE 2
Here's a quote from a Christian Science Monitor article from two days ago that disputes the notion that Obama gets more death threats than Bush did, posted by Bob Johnson in the comments:

While the Secret Service saw a spike in death threats in 2008 and again in 2012, the total number of daily threats against Obama is for the most part similar to those against his predecessor, George W. Bush, and has occasionally dipped significantly lower, according to reports from the Secret Service.
The article doesn't actually link to the report in question, but since we're a facts-based community here on dKos, I did also find this on Wikipedia:
The number of reported threats rose from 2,400 in 1965 to 12,800 in 1969.[11] According to some reports, President George W. Bush received about 3,000 threats a year, while his successor Barack Obama received about four times that many. This figure has been disputed by Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan, who says that Obama receives about as many threats as the previous two Presidents.
One can only surmise that the frequency of death threats to the president are, unlike America itself, completely race-neutral!
Wait, what?

I'm suspicious of the claim that Clinton, Bush, and Obama each got the same number of death threats. Porque (if you're Latino; 'pourquoi' if you're French), you ask? Look, I'm sure when Clinton and Bush were respectively re-elected, no one said, "Fucking Nigger Won Again". I'm sure had Twitter been around in their days, the tweet map of hate speech might have looked a tad bit different. Who really knows the real reason AK-47s are flying off of store shelves like hotcakes. Or why or even whether it's actually true that self-reported or poll-detectable racist attitudes towards blacks have increased since Obama's election in 2008. I just, I don't know. How do you get a 755% growth in extremist groups driven by a Fear of a Black President but see no reflected rise in death threats? Sure, causation and correlation are different things, and you could theoretically have an increase in expressed racism, a rise in hate speech, and a rise in race-fueled hate groups, and yet see no concomittant rise in the number or f

I believe the first family were not at home. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #1
There have been numerous threats against the President probably thousands.. busterbrown Sep 2014 #12
What possible excuse can anyone offer in defense of those Secret Service agents procon Sep 2014 #17
The number of threats against this president and his family have been much higher than any before. jwirr Sep 2014 #48
Not true. Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #62
I remember reading the 400% that one of the posts talked about here but I do not have a link. jwirr Sep 2014 #63
What went wrong? jberryhill Sep 2014 #2
No one was not protected just a case of whistler162 Sep 2014 #29
The Secret Service are racists, and because of that they are purposefully lax in protecting Obama? Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #3
Sorry..... busterbrown Sep 2014 #7
... 99Forever Sep 2014 #4
Threads like this make DU look ridiculous. tritsofme Sep 2014 #5
Ridiculous to who? busterbrown Sep 2014 #9
You forgot to put the little whistler162 Sep 2014 #30
English speakers for one. It's "to whom". jberryhill Sep 2014 #43
um, what's with LiberalElite Sep 2014 #45
Isn't it more ridiculous to act as if the contrast doesn't exist? tia uponit7771 Sep 2014 #24
Jon Hinckley - taken alive. Lynette Fromme - taken alive jberryhill Sep 2014 #33
There was also the guy who crashed a stolen airplane on the White House lawn. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2014 #54
Sometimes DU sucks... ileus Sep 2014 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #47
I agree. cwydro Sep 2014 #53
That's one hefty and unfounded emotional accusation. flvegan Sep 2014 #6
Correct!!! But how many times have you heard the other side busterbrown Sep 2014 #8
The other side AgingAmerican Sep 2014 #11
So is a portion of our side. nt ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #61
Yes, well, we certainly wouldn't want the other side to beat us at being dumb jberryhill Sep 2014 #44
Utterly rediculous AgingAmerican Sep 2014 #10
Again... busterbrown Sep 2014 #13
There are countless threats against any American president. former9thward Sep 2014 #14
Or you freaking telling me that there is a comparison to be made between busterbrown Sep 2014 #15
Yes, I'm saying that. former9thward Sep 2014 #16
Well...400%.is a good start to my argument.. busterbrown Sep 2014 #18
Sorry, but nice try. former9thward Sep 2014 #19
Man, You’re giving yourself away.. busterbrown Sep 2014 #20
You are wasting your time JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #28
Guns "flew off the shelves" when clinton was Pres too, they thought he was banning them 7962 Sep 2014 #35
That is true of any president. Reagan was SHOT. How on earth did anyone get that sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #21
But...This tells a different story. busterbrown Sep 2014 #22
If Obama has gotten more death threats than any other president, The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2014 #56
That's the point I was about to make - Ms. Toad Sep 2014 #59
And lest we forget Squeaky Fromme and Sarah Jane Moore. WillowTree Sep 2014 #68
if the Secret Service wasn't vigilant, how is it that none of the threats onenote Sep 2014 #38
It's clearly all about race. Skip Intro Sep 2014 #23
Fences DustyJoe Sep 2014 #25
Try typing in Bush Fence Jumpers whistler162 Sep 2014 #26
I don't buy that. It just doesn't make any sense. cali Sep 2014 #27
There's many more agents INSIDE, KinMd Sep 2014 #31
Yeah, what every family and workplace needs - twitchy fingered snipers on the roof jberryhill Sep 2014 #34
SO twitchy that they have never shot the dozens SQUEE Sep 2014 #40
your reply seems to be in the wrong place jberryhill Sep 2014 #41
You do realize the President had already left the building. magical thyme Sep 2014 #32
There is an increible amount of racism directed toward our president etherealtruth Sep 2014 #36
Insulting to those who do serve in the Secret Service ksoze Sep 2014 #39
How ridiculous! MineralMan Sep 2014 #42
Oh, FFS. alarimer Sep 2014 #46
OP is absurd Takket Sep 2014 #49
So is the accusation LIHOP or MIHOP? aikoaiko Sep 2014 #50
I don't know, but in 50 years or so NuclearDem Sep 2014 #51
LOL. Iggo Sep 2014 #52
This may be the dumbest OP I've ever seen. cwydro Sep 2014 #55
Maybe so... busterbrown Sep 2014 #67
Oh Jesus H.... 840high Sep 2014 #57
I agree. cilla4progress Sep 2014 #58
Ugh... Nope. LostInAnomie Sep 2014 #60
Secret Service failed and it doesn't matter who was kiranon Sep 2014 #64
I would think they will be etherealtruth Sep 2014 #66
Oh, come on! Iggo Sep 2014 #65
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