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H2O Man

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26. Good point.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 09:24 AM
Sep 2014

I think that as a candidate for president in 2007-08, Senator Obama recognized that a majority of the American public was looking for change. His campaign proved effective in harnessing that energy, allowing him to upset the heavily favored Senator Clinton for the democratic nomination. Then he faced McCain, who represents the past. McCain's attempt to represent change by picking Palin for VP backfired on him.

In a post below, a friend uses the word "transitional" to describe the current Obama plan to defeat Isis. I think it's important to consider how candidate Obama transitioned into President Obama. The team he selected for his administration included several people from the Clinton administration. That may have been considered necessary, since there was an entrenched opposition -- the republicans were intent upon stifling anything the new President would attempt.

I think that President Obama expected that the energy of the grass roots movement that helped to elect him would continue to be a force during his term in the White House. Yet, this would be an area where his administration failed him. In one of the books that came out around 2010, it was noted that President Obama was frustrated, because no one was tasked to organize those grass roots activists who demanded change. Instead, his administration took a "business as usual" approach.

Instead, that grass roots energy became a vacuum. The administration owns much of the responsibility for that. But the grass roots does, too. There was a common belief that electing Obama was the fight. That the president, as the most powerful person on earth, would then be able to effect the promised change. That allowed the negative force -- the corporations and their republican puppets -- to fill the void. And that was the real transition.

The War Machine [View all] H2O Man Sep 2014 OP
Very thoughtful post n2doc Sep 2014 #1
Thanks! H2O Man Sep 2014 #7
Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. ~Albert Einstein Scuba Sep 2014 #2
It surprises me that H2O Man Sep 2014 #8
You said this: it seems fair to ask if, rather than him changing the system, has the system changed sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #21
Like I say below: Obama gave up RobertEarl Sep 2014 #22
Cheney has been very vocal about ISIS. Same way he was vocal about Al Queda. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #23
Good point. H2O Man Sep 2014 #26
Don't know if you've seen this part of his Address to the UN.... KoKo Sep 2014 #3
Very important. H2O Man Sep 2014 #9
That's what disturbs me most malaise Sep 2014 #14
Same questions many of us have... KoKo Sep 2014 #16
That's the really sad part of all of this malaise Sep 2014 #18
Well done! Zorra Sep 2014 #4
Thanks! H2O Man Sep 2014 #10
The corporate media are enemies of both democracy and malaise Sep 2014 #15
It's a transition action - and it is disheartening that so few are comprehending the enormity blm Sep 2014 #5
Interesting. H2O Man Sep 2014 #11
Kerry helped orchestrate Maliki's exit. No progress COULD be made with Maliki there blm Sep 2014 #24
This thread needs some music. Initech Sep 2014 #6
Thanks. H2O Man Sep 2014 #12
Obama begged RobertEarl Sep 2014 #13
Which People are Bloodthirsty... Americans (?) from some Poll that we don't KoKo Sep 2014 #17
Eh? RobertEarl Sep 2014 #20
I love the quote. panader0 Sep 2014 #19
Thanks. H2O Man Sep 2014 #30
Vietnam, G_j Sep 2014 #25
The quagmire aspect H2O Man Sep 2014 #31
and whenever I hear about "advisors" on the ground... G_j Sep 2014 #32
Exactly right. H2O Man Sep 2014 #34
One person cannot change this system. kentuck Sep 2014 #27
Right. H2O Man Sep 2014 #33
excellent post cali Sep 2014 #28
I think that is exactly what has happened. kentuck Sep 2014 #29
Thanks. H2O Man Sep 2014 #35
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