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37. And I've been shocked to see, right here at DU, how many men think they ARE entitled to

Reply to Odin2005 (Reply #25)

Sun Dec 11, 2011, 05:55 PM

Dec 2011

the affections of women, if not sex itself. ENTITLED. It's subtle -- they'll complain somewhat bitterly about what good guys they are but can't get any pretty women, and that has to mean that women are just interested in the jerks and don't want NICE men like them. Or that women just go after the guys with money or a fancy car.

So it's women's fault that they can't find someone to share their lives with.

They don't seem to think it even a possibility that personality, character, values, intelligence, sense of humor and chemistry and yes, appearance, might be involved and that they might work on their own sets of those characteristics.

It worries me sometimes because that kind of resentment toward women isn't healthy and can sometimes result in some pretty unhappy outcomes.

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I hitchhiked around Newfoundland back in the 70's. The people were really friendly and helpful. [View all] jalan48 Feb 2021 OP

On TOP of the other horrors of this ad, PCIntern Dec 2011 #1

Could be. demmiblue Dec 2011 #4

thanks for calling attention to this... PCIntern Dec 2011 #6

I thought the same thing. That it looked like a child's legs....nt Mojorabbit Dec 2011 #128

More pics from the campaign: demmiblue Dec 2011 #2

I can't believe my eyes Harmony Blue Dec 2011 #5

I'm with ya blueamy66 Dec 2011 #16

It's sort of like subliminal porn Mimosa Dec 2011 #30

Very surprising to me this was okayed obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #36

I would LOVE to know who the brain-child behind these ads is Blasphemer Dec 2011 #38

agree - some names should come out and they should be put off the Board ensho Dec 2011 #135

And it's grammatically confusing, to boot. Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #67

OMG. "...will CALL it" sexual assault? It actually says that. DevonRex Dec 2011 #141

"That's what Anne's attorney will call it a month from now..." BlueIris Dec 2011 #152

What idiot approved this in the first place? Aerows Dec 2011 #3

In another thread about this (on DU2) justiceischeap Dec 2011 #9

I can't imagine a woman seeing this Aerows Dec 2011 #10

Found the agency, the Neiman Group justiceischeap Dec 2011 #11

Let me tell you something, Quantess Dec 2011 #7

I, too, have gotten drunk Aerows Dec 2011 #8

The issue is prevention and not fault... Cid_B Dec 2011 #13

I have a thought Aerows Dec 2011 #14

This man agrees with you completely. Odin2005 Dec 2011 #24

Thank God!!! Lunacee2012 Dec 2011 #69

LMAO! Odin2005 Dec 2011 #83

Thank you being an understanding male Aerows Dec 2011 #77

Sadly, it had to take a friend being raped to realize this stuff. Odin2005 Dec 2011 #82

Sorry that had to happen to your friend :( Aerows Dec 2011 #85

You're a brave man, admitting that around here. BlueIris Dec 2011 #155

Agreed. Lunacee2012 Dec 2011 #61

I wonder that, myself Aerows Dec 2011 #78

Appealing to the one group of people not interested in preventing rapes? Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2011 #96

Then why make 'don't drink and drive' ads? redqueen Dec 2011 #143

There are several flaws in your analogy. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2011 #147

You would be sickened to know redqueen Dec 2011 #149

How about aiming them at those who might look the other way? An old "friend" uppityperson Dec 2011 #145

These adverts appear to be doing pretty much that. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2011 #148

Funny, but the thought that Quantess Dec 2011 #18

Uh, how do you know whether someone is a rapist in advance? spooky3 Dec 2011 #20

Well that's certainly also a problem. Quantess Dec 2011 #21

Most rapes are by friends and aquatences, not some random jerk. Odin2005 Dec 2011 #25

Sure, and that's why choosing your friends wisely is a good idea. Quantess Dec 2011 #26

And I've been shocked to see, right here at DU, how many men think they ARE entitled to Remember Me Dec 2011 #37

This is exactly why I'm skeptical of the "rape is about power" dogma. Odin2005 Dec 2011 #49

Sexual Entitlement IS power obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #55

I find Dorian Gray Dec 2011 #91

The "nice" guys who complain that women don't want them because they are "too nice" are usually tblue37 Dec 2011 #119

Wow MadrasT Dec 2011 #97

Exactly right Aerows Dec 2011 #76

Here's how to prevent gettig raped: Quantess Dec 2011 #19

Because all rapists are always obvious about their intent Saokymo Dec 2011 #29

Absolutely. Quantess Dec 2011 #35

The point Saokymo Dec 2011 #47

Best way to not have a car accident is to avoid one. Best way to not get a cold is avoid it. uppityperson Dec 2011 #138

Isn't that a rather simplistic answer? obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author Bunny Dec 2011 #48

Rapists don't carry signs. Nor do they announce themselves. Most are ordinary, mannerly men until appleannie1 Dec 2011 #71

Are you serious? redwitch Dec 2011 #80

"Only you can prevent forest fires." Gormy Cuss Dec 2011 #22

Quelle surprise! n/t demmiblue Dec 2011 #28

the picture alone is offensive to the horrors a woman/girl may go thru seabeyond Dec 2011 #52

Yes, it is a very humiliating and degrading image obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #56

Yup, exactly. Withywindle Dec 2011 #70

Date rape happens to sober women Tsiyu Dec 2011 #59

Someone close to me also had something slipped into her cola too. Lunacee2012 Dec 2011 #64

The ad campaign focused on a small segment of date rape scenarios Tsiyu Dec 2011 #65

The crime lays with the criminal... Cid_B Dec 2011 #68

Sad but true? Tsiyu Dec 2011 #72

So what are you advocating exactly? Cid_B Dec 2011 #74

Addressing more PSA's to men is certainly a good start. Tsiyu Dec 2011 #84

How far should we go to reduce the potential? LiberalAndProud Dec 2011 #131

This sounds like the old "if only" argument. If only I'd not worn some clothing, if only I'd not... uppityperson Dec 2011 #139

Believe it or not most women actually do things to avoid rape lunatica Dec 2011 #150

+ a brazillion uppityperson Jan 2012 #160

the prevention of it in the first place is still on the man and not on the woman SemperEadem Dec 2011 #86

No... No it's not.... Cid_B Dec 2011 #94

and how does that relate to the young woman in a coma in a nursing home SemperEadem Dec 2011 #105

That part is true at least... Cid_B Dec 2011 #106

the onus of preventing rape is not on the woman SemperEadem Dec 2011 #113

Good on you... Cid_B Dec 2011 #115

if more men were blamed and punished, they might think twice before they did it. Why does this not bettyellen Dec 2011 #125

Do you really believe "stutter out a 'No'" will stop a rapist who's given you drugs? uppityperson Dec 2011 #140

The point is.... Spazito Dec 2011 #144

Yet another great announcement from the commonwealth... Callisto32 Dec 2011 #12

Oh. My. Gawd. City Lights Dec 2011 #15

You stay classy, Pennsylvania. Orrex Dec 2011 #17

That ad is fucked up on so many levels Odin2005 Dec 2011 #23

WTF were they thinking in the first place? Solly Mack Dec 2011 #27

Sadly, there are several posters that think raping passed-out drunk women is OK. Odin2005 Dec 2011 #32

Damn. Solly Mack Dec 2011 #34

That's just wrong. I'm not even sure what motivated them to make it in the first place. HopeHoops Dec 2011 #31

Exactly Blasphemer Dec 2011 #42

A post I made on facebook last night. VenusRising Dec 2011 #33

it's too bad you didn't take a picture of him with your cell phone SemperEadem Dec 2011 #87

I would have, but I have a crappy phone. VenusRising Dec 2011 #92

THIS is why some feminists call ours a Rape Culture Remember Me Dec 2011 #40

Terrific Post obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #41

He made an excellent point Blasphemer Dec 2011 #45

It also reminds me of obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #46

Thanks for making that point. It's very true Remember Me Dec 2011 #50

Point taken! Blasphemer Dec 2011 #51

exactly. the rape was sexualized in the picture and to the point of porn seabeyond Dec 2011 #53

I agree with you 100%!!!!!!!!! obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #54

absolutely. i am so god damn tired of all of society pornifying our females seabeyond Dec 2011 #57

And if you call "them" on it like we are obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #58

i don't. i have two boys seabeyond Dec 2011 #60

Teaching young men to become obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #62

exactly... where are the bruises and lacerations and blood? SemperEadem Dec 2011 #88

Agreed. And the girl looks like a child. DevonRex Dec 2011 #146

yeah we're definitely a 'rape culture.' chrisa Dec 2011 #95

They should check the BAC for the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board every once in a while. LiberalFighter Dec 2011 #43

You've got to be shitting me. MilesColtrane Dec 2011 #44

There are two messages here, neither offensive. Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #63

"gender studies lifestyle"? Lunacee2012 Dec 2011 #73

Emphasis on "some" Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #81

Then why portray a woman in this ad at all? justiceischeap Dec 2011 #90

There's no point. Pithlet Dec 2011 #93

In what other circumstance is suggesting ways to avoid harm offensive? Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #98

Yet, not once did you touch on the culpability of men or boys justiceischeap Dec 2011 #99

work on your reading comprehension "Men are to blame when a woman is raped" Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #102

I don't think it's OFFENSIVE in content so much as ONE-SIDED in responsibility, and that's offensive Remember Me Dec 2011 #103

It isn't about burden or responsibility, it is about audience Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #104

The point is, we shouldn't HAVE to worry about protecting ourselves justiceischeap Dec 2011 #109

no, women or anyone else shouldn't, but this is the real world and there are predators amongst us. Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #111

Actually, that would be an EXCELLENT ad campaign to aim at college men (or any others--but I think tblue37 Dec 2011 #121

Why are you pushing a unilateral "solution" -- it doesn't have to be Remember Me Dec 2011 #110

What are you talking about? Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #112

college student VS a sexual predator? seriously you think those are necesarily two different animals bettyellen Dec 2011 #114

If you have some earth shattering breakthrough on massively abating predatory behavior... Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #117

i think we need to start asking people to question why they point the finger at women, and do not .. bettyellen Dec 2011 #122

If I was on that campus I would stay the fuck away from Sigma Phi Epsilon et al. Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #130

so your solution is to do nothing to address the predstorial behaviour at all. Nothing. Got it. bettyellen Dec 2011 #136

The only people advocating doing nothing are on your side Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #137

if they are talking to girls/women, why put this girl/woman in a sexual porn image? seabeyond Dec 2011 #151

Nothing about this image is erotic to me Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #156

everything about it sexualizes her and does not demonstrate rape seabeyond Dec 2011 #157

I'm sorry, I agree with you on almost everythng - but Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #158

another poster said it better than i and why seabeyond Dec 2011 #159

So tell us, when and how do we start holding men accountable? Pls explain. bettyellen Dec 2011 #116

I'm quite I'm favor of prosecution, incarceration and castration Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #118

oh, but not talking about it, right? I mean god forbid some men's feeling get hurt, right? bettyellen Dec 2011 #123

go ahead and talk about it, just don't censor real world safety messages. Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #129

HA HA, blame a WOMAN for the phrases YOU use. Interesting habit you seem to have there... bettyellen Dec 2011 #126

I'm not blaming her, I am giving her proper credit. Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #132

and he hides behind a woman who "said it first". I remember that excuse from 3rd grade. bettyellen Dec 2011 #127

I would share more of her thoughts, Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #133

Yeah, I dislike that too. Lunacee2012 Dec 2011 #134

who knew Sharia-like views were here in America? StarsInHerHair Dec 2011 #66

seems to me it is the other side of the coin seabeyond Dec 2011 #75

other side of the same coin? yes that was my intent StarsInHerHair Dec 2011 #79

precisely SemperEadem Dec 2011 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author Occupy_2012 Dec 2011 #100

Sadly, some men would agree with the "third date/dinner" reasoning. justiceischeap Dec 2011 #101

the boys in this frat should be videotaped reading their own replies to this survey bettyellen Dec 2011 #124

I broke up with a boyfriend, he told me that I needed to be aware of the dinner-sex thing uppityperson Dec 2011 #142

+1. nt seabeyond Dec 2011 #153

I think the ad does a good job graphicly/explicity while straddling the line between OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2011 #107

sexualizing rape in graphics surely is the way to go. nt seabeyond Dec 2011 #154

Oh my fucking god Cal Carpenter Dec 2011 #108

Must be that wonderful governor you have in PA. Dawson Leery Dec 2011 #120

I understand the explanation and agree with the stated intent of the PLCB, further I agree that maggiesfarmer Jan 2012 #161