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In reply to the discussion: Here's how Thomas Duncan, the Dallas ebola patient contracted the virus: Direct contact [View all]caseymoz
(5,763 posts)79. Um, I think they do.
What's not going to happen is that a fluid borne virus becomes a mosquito-born one. Or a bite-borne or food born one. None of those will come from a fluid-borne virus.
But the step from a fluid-borne virus to an airborne one is not that big of a jump. The main difference, I think is that the virus survive somewhat dryer conditions. It probably has a fair chance of happening if this spreads.
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Here's how Thomas Duncan, the Dallas ebola patient contracted the virus: Direct contact [View all]
cali
Oct 2014
OP
He says he told the hospital, they admit the info wasn't passed through their system as it should
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#2
he merely answered screening question he was in hot spot. never saying, he was in contact with a
seabeyond
Oct 2014
#9
As direct contact with Ebola patient, he should have been traveling to begin with.
LisaL
Oct 2014
#88
per article, it appears he merely answered the question he was in a hot spot. nt
seabeyond
Oct 2014
#11
they took a sick girl to the hospital for ebola and there was no room. then he proceeded to
seabeyond
Oct 2014
#21
it is learning the process, hence NOT being unaware on how it works and having a fuggin discussion
seabeyond
Oct 2014
#28
i want to know, once the triage nurse found out it a possibility, ... why she was
seabeyond
Oct 2014
#30
since all the hospitals have supposedly educated the workers, and they are the first defense...
seabeyond
Oct 2014
#35
i have been mostly using urgent care. pretty calm. i had to use an emergency room about a month ago
seabeyond
Oct 2014
#41
i am talking my recent experience in er in my area. not that hospital in particular.
seabeyond
Oct 2014
#59
thought of first case ever. you betcha if i were the nurse, i would be telling everyone
seabeyond
Oct 2014
#45
this is where i sit. if i asked, and he gave me liberia. i would all be YIKES... stepping back. nt
seabeyond
Oct 2014
#47
because we in the u.s. have heard enough about it. it is on everyones radar in the u.s.
seabeyond
Oct 2014
#57
Give me a break! This is a guy who flies back and forth from Liberia to the US,
ecstatic
Oct 2014
#92
Which means he shouldn't have been allowed to fly. No one who was exposed to him
pnwmom
Oct 2014
#52
He was not contagious when he flew. And yes, they do screen people flying out of Liberia and he
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#62
Doesn't matter. None of the Texans who are being observed now are thought to be contagious
pnwmom
Oct 2014
#64
They should be observing those people the same way they are observing them here.
pnwmom
Oct 2014
#103
Did you read this article on hospital conditions there? Have you a clue what the societal
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#108
so. he was well aware that is what he had, the seriousness, and that the person died,
seabeyond
Oct 2014
#5
she asked if he had been to any of the locations. he said yes. BIG difference than saying 10 days
seabeyond
Oct 2014
#13
from all the reports to this point, it has consistently been said, triage nurse asked the question
seabeyond
Oct 2014
#23
then again... facing a horrible disease, death he just watched, denial is powerful. nt
seabeyond
Oct 2014
#24
But he got on the plane, knowing that the woman he assisted had died of Ebola on the 16th.
pnwmom
Oct 2014
#58
we don't know if he told her/him about his close contact with a very ill ebola patient
cali
Oct 2014
#10
they knew enough to take her to ebola hospital. and you are right. we do not know how educated
seabeyond
Oct 2014
#49
Ebola hospital? They took her to the only real hospital in the entire country!
Barack_America
Oct 2014
#141
Since he wasn't sick when he flew, he didn't "know what he had" and even on that flight, no
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#55
At this point I'm thinking a 21 day quarantine before being cleared to travel to the US from West
kestrel91316
Oct 2014
#75
That's why international travelers are supposed to have passports with visa stamps.
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2014
#116
kestrel says 3 weeks before coming into the USA, are you saying mandatory holding for 3 weeks
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#119
I'm saying we should do as other countries have & ban all travel from the 3 major affected nations
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2014
#120
Problem is no direct flights, and passport may not be stamped. Ban all travel into USA?
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#122
"ban all travel from the 3 major affected nations". There are not direct flights. Passports may not
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#127
You're right. I guess it's totally completely impossible and undoable.
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2014
#128
I don't know anything about what you mean with S Africa. i'd like to see money put into
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#130
What additional restrictions? How? I do not mean dichotomous, simply saying what I wish.
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#132
I think probably a combination of travel monitoring, additional screening, passport restriction
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2014
#133
Flying in August, 2 Euro airports and a USA one all had signs about ebola at screening and
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#136
If we do have actual Ebola outbreaks in the US that start to get out of hand,
Jamastiene
Oct 2014
#145
America is affected now. Ban all flights to and from America? Please, you are not being rational.
Fred Sanders
Oct 2014
#85
No, assuming they keep this one case contained, like they eventually got in contained in Nigeria
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2014
#115
Liberia was founded by freed American slaves. American names are the norm there as a result.
kestrel91316
Oct 2014
#76
I found later in the linked post that he was born in Liberia, but attended high school and
magical thyme
Oct 2014
#77
Not quite. It was colonized by them but already had many different peoples there.
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#112
Idiots like this is probably why we should cut off flights from Liberia...
LostInAnomie
Oct 2014
#20
It wouldn't be punishing them to ask a screening question at the airport check-in.
pnwmom
Oct 2014
#65
Precautions didn't work with this guy, who was asymptomatic when he boarded.
Louisiana1976
Oct 2014
#66
Yes, the same way those nations themselves have "punished" the affected counties with quarantine.
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2014
#126
he'd been there for 2 years, so he traveled there to live before it was a hot zone.
magical thyme
Oct 2014
#56
Ignorance does not = being an idiot and way to insult a large number of people
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#60
Then why the fuck have they been murdering health care providers there? Ignorance.
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#109
Insulting ignorant fearful people and a whole continent as "weapons grade stupid". Incredible.
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#123
Right. Customs will make sure you're not bringing a bag of pot in your luggage.
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2014
#125
Per his neighbor, he was puking all over the place before being loaded into an ambulance.
LisaL
Oct 2014
#147
No. Quarantine is imprisonment of a sort. They are told to stay home, stay inside,
kestrel91316
Oct 2014
#78
Frightened people will be the death of us all. Those I agree that those who know better but are
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#113
He knew he was exposed. He fled to America. He got a fever and waited 2 days before
kestrel91316
Oct 2014
#73
Something tells me they were a lot more aggressive than the US seems to be in
ecstatic
Oct 2014
#101
Right, after how many secondary and tertiary infections- due to one index patient?
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2014
#118
"I dont care what he's got, since he doesn't have $$$$$INSURANCE!!!!$$$$$$$$"
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2014
#117
Oh, boy. "Dallas Ebola patient vomited outside apartment on way to hospital"
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2014
#134
so he lied when he was aksed in liberia if he has been in contact with anyone
underthematrix
Oct 2014
#138