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caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
79. Um, I think they do.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 05:56 PM
Oct 2014

What's not going to happen is that a fluid borne virus becomes a mosquito-born one. Or a bite-borne or food born one. None of those will come from a fluid-borne virus.

But the step from a fluid-borne virus to an airborne one is not that big of a jump. The main difference, I think is that the virus survive somewhat dryer conditions. It probably has a fair chance of happening if this spreads.
He had direct contact with a woman stricken by Ebola on Sept. 15 seveneyes Oct 2014 #1
He says he told the hospital, they admit the info wasn't passed through their system as it should uppityperson Oct 2014 #2
he merely answered screening question he was in hot spot. never saying, he was in contact with a seabeyond Oct 2014 #9
As direct contact with Ebola patient, he should have been traveling to begin with. LisaL Oct 2014 #88
Well, he was, like you said he should have been. And? uppityperson Oct 2014 #106
Get this: On the 25th his "his condition did not warrant admission" Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #135
At this point, fuck the insurance companies. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #144
He told the triage nurse: Avalux Oct 2014 #4
If he told her his contact with an ebola patient and that didn't cali Oct 2014 #7
per article, it appears he merely answered the question he was in a hot spot. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #11
I don't think we have that important piece of information. Avalux Oct 2014 #12
He might be one of the fools who thinks ebola isn't real. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #74
That is the first thought that crossed my mind. Jamastiene Oct 2014 #140
When this goes airborne... greytdemocrat Oct 2014 #43
Viruses generally don't mutate that way. JaneyVee Oct 2014 #54
Um, I think they do. caseymoz Oct 2014 #79
Has never happened with all viruses we know of JaneyVee Oct 2014 #81
Happened with bubonic plague spinbaby Oct 2014 #82
But hasn't happened to any virus we know of. JaneyVee Oct 2014 #100
Yet he didn't mention he was helping to carry a dying EBOLA victim? seveneyes Oct 2014 #16
We don't know he was intentionally spreading Ebola. Avalux Oct 2014 #19
they took a sick girl to the hospital for ebola and there was no room. then he proceeded to seabeyond Oct 2014 #21
Do you understand why Ebola is spreading so quickly in parts of Africa? Avalux Oct 2014 #27
it is learning the process, hence NOT being unaware on how it works and having a fuggin discussion seabeyond Oct 2014 #28
i want to know, once the triage nurse found out it a possibility, ... why she was seabeyond Oct 2014 #30
What if the nurse was geographically challenged? Avalux Oct 2014 #33
since all the hospitals have supposedly educated the workers, and they are the first defense... seabeyond Oct 2014 #35
Negligence, whether intentional or not. Avalux Oct 2014 #38
i have been mostly using urgent care. pretty calm. i had to use an emergency room about a month ago seabeyond Oct 2014 #41
Is that hospital a level 1 trauma center? Avalux Oct 2014 #51
i am talking my recent experience in er in my area. not that hospital in particular. seabeyond Oct 2014 #59
Maybe she entered the information on her computing device... MohRokTah Oct 2014 #39
thought of first case ever. you betcha if i were the nurse, i would be telling everyone seabeyond Oct 2014 #45
But didn't she ask him the original 'hot spot' question? leftstreet Oct 2014 #40
this is where i sit. if i asked, and he gave me liberia. i would all be YIKES... stepping back. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #47
There's conflicting info from what I've read. Avalux Oct 2014 #48
because we in the u.s. have heard enough about it. it is on everyones radar in the u.s. seabeyond Oct 2014 #57
He had a passport Aerows Oct 2014 #111
Give me a break! This is a guy who flies back and forth from Liberia to the US, ecstatic Oct 2014 #92
It was his 1st trip to the USA. If you care. uppityperson Oct 2014 #137
Which means he shouldn't have been allowed to fly. No one who was exposed to him pnwmom Oct 2014 #52
+1. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #61
He was not contagious when he flew. And yes, they do screen people flying out of Liberia and he uppityperson Oct 2014 #62
Doesn't matter. None of the Texans who are being observed now are thought to be contagious pnwmom Oct 2014 #64
if you had a way out of Liberia right now VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #70
Only if someone is a contaminating, murderous and selfish POS seveneyes Oct 2014 #80
If someone is traumatized from what they have seen already? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #104
Even on DU. eom uppityperson Oct 2014 #105
They should be observing those people the same way they are observing them here. pnwmom Oct 2014 #103
Did you read this article on hospital conditions there? Have you a clue what the societal uppityperson Oct 2014 #108
+1 n/t Adsos Letter Oct 2014 #153
Thank you. Best wishes for Mr Duncan, his family and friends. uppityperson Oct 2014 #3
so. he was well aware that is what he had, the seriousness, and that the person died, seabeyond Oct 2014 #5
Apparently, he did tell triage. nt msanthrope Oct 2014 #8
she asked if he had been to any of the locations. he said yes. BIG difference than saying 10 days seabeyond Oct 2014 #13
We don't know what he said specifically. herding cats Oct 2014 #17
from all the reports to this point, it has consistently been said, triage nurse asked the question seabeyond Oct 2014 #23
then again... facing a horrible disease, death he just watched, denial is powerful. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #24
Isn't that the truth. herding cats Oct 2014 #37
But he got on the plane, knowing that the woman he assisted had died of Ebola on the 16th. pnwmom Oct 2014 #58
we don't know if he told her/him about his close contact with a very ill ebola patient cali Oct 2014 #10
true. cause i am on the otherside saying... seabeyond Oct 2014 #14
He knew what he had but took a commercial flight home (genius!)... 951-Riverside Oct 2014 #31
No need to be angry at this man. MohRokTah Oct 2014 #44
they knew enough to take her to ebola hospital. and you are right. we do not know how educated seabeyond Oct 2014 #49
Ebola hospital? They took her to the only real hospital in the entire country! Barack_America Oct 2014 #141
Since he wasn't sick when he flew, he didn't "know what he had" and even on that flight, no uppityperson Oct 2014 #55
Why are you upset? FrodosPet Oct 2014 #68
At this point I'm thinking a 21 day quarantine before being cleared to travel to the US from West kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #75
What about from the USA from Europe? uppityperson Oct 2014 #110
That's why international travelers are supposed to have passports with visa stamps. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #116
kestrel says 3 weeks before coming into the USA, are you saying mandatory holding for 3 weeks uppityperson Oct 2014 #119
I'm saying we should do as other countries have & ban all travel from the 3 major affected nations Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #120
Problem is no direct flights, and passport may not be stamped. Ban all travel into USA? uppityperson Oct 2014 #122
Why bring a red herring into it (ie "ban all travel into USA") Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #124
"ban all travel from the 3 major affected nations". There are not direct flights. Passports may not uppityperson Oct 2014 #127
You're right. I guess it's totally completely impossible and undoable. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #128
I don't know anything about what you mean with S Africa. i'd like to see money put into uppityperson Oct 2014 #130
And to frame that as a dichotomy is false, as well. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #131
What additional restrictions? How? I do not mean dichotomous, simply saying what I wish. uppityperson Oct 2014 #132
I think probably a combination of travel monitoring, additional screening, passport restriction Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #133
Flying in August, 2 Euro airports and a USA one all had signs about ebola at screening and uppityperson Oct 2014 #136
As I said upthread, I have a sneaking suspicion Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #139
true CullenBohannon Oct 2014 #150
Welcome to DU!!! gopiscrap Oct 2014 #154
If we do have actual Ebola outbreaks in the US that start to get out of hand, Jamastiene Oct 2014 #145
America is affected now. Ban all flights to and from America? Please, you are not being rational. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #85
No, assuming they keep this one case contained, like they eventually got in contained in Nigeria Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #115
Naaah--just Texas (/snark). nt MADem Oct 2014 #129
Damn, we're in agreement. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #114
He should have demanded they keep him overnight for observation, imo Catherine Vincent Oct 2014 #6
I doubt an average Liberian citizen would do that in a US hospital. Avalux Oct 2014 #22
Just fyi, English is the official and most spoken language of Liberia. Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #36
That's good to know, I admit I did not. Avalux Oct 2014 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author ecstatic Oct 2014 #95
he should have immediately quarantined himself magical thyme Oct 2014 #15
From my admittedly minimal understanding of this issue/disease/etc. vi5 Oct 2014 #18
I think he may be an American, not only because of his name, but this: magical thyme Oct 2014 #26
Still... vi5 Oct 2014 #46
They mixed up some information about his son with him muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #72
Uggh. Maybe he really was clueless ecstatic Oct 2014 #98
Liberia was founded by freed American slaves. American names are the norm there as a result. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #76
I found later in the linked post that he was born in Liberia, but attended high school and magical thyme Oct 2014 #77
Not quite. It was colonized by them but already had many different peoples there. uppityperson Oct 2014 #112
Certainly he shouldn't have been flying to another country. LisaL Oct 2014 #90
He has children and other family here magical thyme Oct 2014 #93
Idiots like this is probably why we should cut off flights from Liberia... LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #20
Not going to do a whole lot of good davidn3600 Oct 2014 #25
Then, screen them out. LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #29
So you want to punish a nation of 4 million people MohRokTah Oct 2014 #50
It wouldn't be punishing them to ask a screening question at the airport check-in. pnwmom Oct 2014 #65
Precautions didn't work with this guy, who was asymptomatic when he boarded. Louisiana1976 Oct 2014 #66
But nobody on the plane caught Ebola. eom MohRokTah Oct 2014 #69
Punish? Are we beating the fuck out of the English language now? LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #86
Yes, the same way those nations themselves have "punished" the affected counties with quarantine. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #126
What about CullenBohannon Oct 2014 #151
I agree Catherine Vincent Oct 2014 #32
That's the problem. LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #34
Interesting point Generic Other Oct 2014 #53
he'd been there for 2 years, so he traveled there to live before it was a hot zone. magical thyme Oct 2014 #56
Ignorance does not = being an idiot and way to insult a large number of people uppityperson Oct 2014 #60
Bullshit. LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #107
Then why the fuck have they been murdering health care providers there? Ignorance. uppityperson Oct 2014 #109
Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #121
Insulting ignorant fearful people and a whole continent as "weapons grade stupid". Incredible. uppityperson Oct 2014 #123
This is why we have passport control at airports AngryAmish Oct 2014 #63
Right. Customs will make sure you're not bringing a bag of pot in your luggage. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #125
Good point. Jamastiene Oct 2014 #149
So is his family quarantined? madville Oct 2014 #67
Close enough contact for bodily fluid exchange. DeadLetterOffice Oct 2014 #71
They said on NPR that everyone in the emergency room waiting room... LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #87
Per his neighbor, he was puking all over the place before being loaded into an ambulance. LisaL Oct 2014 #147
No. Quarantine is imprisonment of a sort. They are told to stay home, stay inside, kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #78
Just reported a second person is suspected of being infected madville Oct 2014 #83
No shock there. He probably infected everyone in the home. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #96
Frightened people will be the death of us all. Those I agree that those who know better but are uppityperson Oct 2014 #113
He knew he was exposed. He fled to America. He got a fever and waited 2 days before kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #73
Patrick Sawyer flew to Nigeria even though his sister died of Ebola. LisaL Oct 2014 #146
Science facts take all of the fun out of the fear mongering. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #84
Seriously? LisaL Oct 2014 #89
Exactly. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #91
Something tells me they were a lot more aggressive than the US seems to be in ecstatic Oct 2014 #101
Yes, I believe they put them in quarantine in some special places. LisaL Oct 2014 #102
Right, after how many secondary and tertiary infections- due to one index patient? Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #118
And about half of them died, I believe. LisaL Oct 2014 #148
The hospital was more than stupid... Sancho Oct 2014 #94
It's even worse. LisaL Oct 2014 #97
oh hell... Sancho Oct 2014 #99
"I dont care what he's got, since he doesn't have $$$$$INSURANCE!!!!$$$$$$$$" Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #117
Oh, boy. "Dallas Ebola patient vomited outside apartment on way to hospital" Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #134
so he lied when he was aksed in liberia if he has been in contact with anyone underthematrix Oct 2014 #138
Thanks for posting this, Cali. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #142
He KNEW he was in jeopardy of contracting Ebola, and YET HE GOT ON A PLANE. HE ASSOCIATED WITH CHIL- WinkyDink Oct 2014 #143
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