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Divernan

(15,480 posts)
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 08:34 AM Oct 2014

Rogue donors (wealthy Democratic progressives) NOT ready for Hillary. [View all]

This is a lengthy, fact-filled article quoting many wealthy progressive Dems who would prefer Elizabeth Warren, Martin O'Malley, Jim Webb, Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders. Why? Because HRC is too hawkish, too close to Wall Street and insufficiently aggressive on fighting climate change, income inequality and the role of money in politics. I chose excerpts re support for Warren, but there's discussion of support for the others as well.
An interesting comment on this article:

"Then what, pray tell, does Hillary have to offer the country?
Sorry, she's got NOTHING! Never has expressed an original thought or idea. Can't even say if she's running.
Somebody with a great plan for America would not be toying with the decision to run. She/he would be out there rallying America to embrace her/his ideas.
With Hillary, it's not about America, it's only about Hillary.
Go ahead - vote for her, if you think it's her "turn" & turns matter.
The rest of us have a higher standard for the high office of the presidency. "



Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/hillary-clinton-donors-2016-elections-111622.html#ixzz3FMoDVVZr

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/hillary-clinton-donors-2016-elections-111622_Page2.html

By far the candidate who most worries Clintonites — and most excites the anybody-but-Hillary donors — is Warren, whose tough posture toward Wall Street and on reducing income inequality thrill liberal activists and donors. They’re hoping that she can be persuaded to make the race if they can demonstrate enough support for her.

“I think the wiggle room is that she doesn’t have to make the decision now,” said Deborah Sagner, a New Jersey real estate executive and philanthropist. She sided with Obama early in his 2008 Democratic primary against Clinton, later raising more than $500,000 for his reelection, and now is raising money for the Warren super PAC, Ready for Warren Presidential Draft Campaign.

“I was never really been inspired by the Clintons, either of them,” said Sagner, who wrote among the first checks — $20,000 — to the Warren super PAC, the very name of which has been interpreted as a swipe at Ready for Hillary. Sagner said she’s been “delightedly surprised” by how many donors have offered to contribute. “Obviously, I’m not necessarily saying to this to people who I know from ’07 have been for Hillary. I’ve mostly been talking to people who in ’07 were looking for an alternative to Hillary.” Among them, she said, there is the sense “that a rigorous primary in the Democratic presidential primary is very healthy for the party.”

Sagner is a former board member of the influential Democracy Alliance club of wealthy liberals. Its membership — which skews anti-war, anti-money in politics and economically populist — largely turned away from Clinton and toward Obama in 2008. Sources say the club’s current donor pool again includes an ardent anybody-but-Hillary wing. This time around, its underdog rival of choice is Warren, who demurred when she was urged to run after speaking to the club’s annual winter meeting late last year.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/hillary-clinton-donors-2016-elections-111622_Page2.html#ixzz3FMnBFGEY
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I'm not wealthy, but fully agree that Warren, Sanders and others would be much better choices. Scuba Oct 2014 #1
Me too. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #5
Amen.... daleanime Oct 2014 #7
Same here. Shadowflash Oct 2014 #19
Absolutely n/t MissDeeds Oct 2014 #24
Caveat lector, when it's Politico. Nonetheless, I fully agree RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #26
I fully agree. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2014 #55
im glad these people exist. roguevalley Oct 2014 #65
Looks interesting...Will read whole article later. KoKo Oct 2014 #2
so i would already be considered a Rogue dem? i am ok with that dembotoz Oct 2014 #3
Personally, I like the label: "Rogue Dem." It sounds rather dashing! LongTomH Oct 2014 #74
Bill and Hillary, while doing many great things, sold us out to Wall Street, why should I support Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #4
Here's what the article has to say about Bernie/campaign finance reform. Divernan Oct 2014 #18
I couldn't agree more! If people really want to fix government and solve most of the pressing Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #48
HRC is damaged goods Android3.14 Oct 2014 #6
SO very very damaged - more luggage than a filled 747 luggage compartment. Divernan Oct 2014 #14
So our rogue donors are better than their rogue donors.... Historic NY Oct 2014 #8
If you read the article you see that many of these donors are not happy about the 'money in sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #73
I'll begrudgingly vote for HRC in the election RedCappedBandit Oct 2014 #9
Hillary would be a win for the wealthy folk so this surprises me. peace13 Oct 2014 #12
"Can't even say if she's running." Here's a list of who's declared so far: rock Oct 2014 #10
Wish I could individually rec this comment EileenFB Oct 2014 #15
me too mopinko Oct 2014 #31
Welcome to DU, EileenFB! calimary Oct 2014 #53
Thank you calimary EileenFB Oct 2014 #71
I am so glad you spoke up. If you have a point it must be that HRC shouldn't be expected to do rhett o rick Oct 2014 #61
Don't you understand our language or culture? rock Oct 2014 #66
Did you not understand that you made a statement that had nothing to do with the rhett o rick Oct 2014 #69
Very clever rock Oct 2014 #70
You "took a direct quote (single point)" and tried to be cute and insinuate that rhett o rick Oct 2014 #72
Interesting that people looking for big D democratic candidates are labeled Rogue hootinholler Oct 2014 #11
Thank you. So true. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #36
Well said "hootin" nm rhett o rick Oct 2014 #62
Why is it rogue to be looking at other putative nominees than HRC? marble falls Oct 2014 #13
You know what I miss? Proud Public Servant Oct 2014 #16
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ mopinko Oct 2014 #32
Maybe because a well-organized labor movement actually existed back then? YoungDemCA Oct 2014 #37
Great post. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #38
Thank you. I’m tired of the leadership being so cowed by the right-wing establishment that they are Chathamization Oct 2014 #45
Hear hear. Barack_America Oct 2014 #50
Webb is not progressive - TBF Oct 2014 #17
He isn't even interesting. Somebody posted a video of him. I got the impression he is a hack JDPriestly Oct 2014 #39
Someone even called him a populist! KamaAina Oct 2014 #57
Who is going to represent working class families after next crash? It won't be Hillary. eom whereisjustice Oct 2014 #20
Clinton Foundation will host a 5 star international conference on the problem Divernan Oct 2014 #22
+1 whereisjustice Oct 2014 #25
Is that a way to indebt celebrities to them so that the celebrities will feel compelled JDPriestly Oct 2014 #40
The more the merrier. jen63 Oct 2014 #21
Sherrod Brown is a great liberal, but he does not have the charisma in front of a group that JDPriestly Oct 2014 #42
I disagree. n/t jen63 Oct 2014 #46
Okay, that's about the STUPIDEST anti-Hillary argument I ever read. MohRokTah Oct 2014 #23
i hate that whole meme. mopinko Oct 2014 #33
I understand what it means. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #35
Reminds me of this. AtomicKitten Oct 2014 #44
It's Divide and Conquer POLITICO stirring the pot, as they do. MADem Oct 2014 #52
Thank you! AndreaCG Oct 2014 #56
If you are down to using the word "stupid" twice in your argument, I sense a certain rhett o rick Oct 2014 #64
If HRC is our candidate byoung6 Oct 2014 #27
No may about it in my case, no more lesser of two evils for me. A Simple Game Oct 2014 #41
I can already hear it,.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #28
Right on cue post #29. Nice call! neverforget Oct 2014 #67
Wow, 7 minutes later. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #68
Papa Paul and little Bambino ,,, loves it! Cryptoad Oct 2014 #29
good for them stupidicus Oct 2014 #30
Gives me hope! Thanks for posting! JDPriestly Oct 2014 #34
Donors Robbins Oct 2014 #43
these folks might be wealthy DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #47
K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2014 #49
One word--POLITICO. MADem Oct 2014 #51
+1 Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #60
Hey, whoever thinks they have what it takes, put it on the table. Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #54
Why would donors, wealthy or otherwise, be ready if she hasn't announced her intentions? Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #58
That's a fair question to all the donors to Ready for Hillary PAC. Divernan Oct 2014 #59
It's Definitely a Good Read...Recommend it to All! KoKo Oct 2014 #63
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