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A Woman’s Lifetime Earnings Lost To Pay Gap Could Feed A Family Of Four For 37 Years [View all] Luminous Animal Apr 2012 OP

But it buys a 1%'er another house. liberal N proud Apr 2012 #1

surprised this post isn't getting more love nashville_brook Apr 2012 #2

that's a pretty typical reaction to women's issues BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2012 #4

Or maybe is much ado about nothing taught_me_patience Apr 2012 #6

Hey I just got home from work varelse Apr 2012 #47

:) glad this got kicked -- ! nashville_brook Apr 2012 #54

I thought the 77% myth has long been debunked taught_me_patience Apr 2012 #3

Feel free to "trot" out the old debunking arguments... please. Please do so. nt riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #5

Here you go taught_me_patience Apr 2012 #7

Not debunked... Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #8

You've actually proved my point taught_me_patience Apr 2012 #10

I am not going to lend credence to a report commissioned by the Bush Admin and done by a Rand Corp Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #13

+10000000000000 nashville_brook Apr 2012 #55

Your link explained nothing taught_me_patience Apr 2012 #66

Actually, most studies up to this Randian pretty much supported this stat. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #70

Your own article doesn't support the stat, if you read it carefully. They blazon "77%," but read HiPointDem Apr 2012 #79

It's not a rand spin-off, it's headed by a former rand employee. somewhat different. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #67

= 60% of that "77% gap" is an artifact. I think that's a debunking. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #11

as if those factors were dismissable anyway iverglas Apr 2012 #14

Yep... Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #16

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too bad iverglas Apr 2012 #38

Ugly is right. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #39

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self delete hlthe2b Apr 2012 #42

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You are right.... Sorry.. hlthe2b Apr 2012 #45

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Some stay at home parents are like that. I know, I used to cater to Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #49

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I agree with the 1st paragraph 100%. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #56

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Doesn't matter what you believe, she says it was her choice and there's no particular reason HiPointDem Apr 2012 #80

Why do men take jobs which yield an 1150% greater risk of death? n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #17

And women? I'm a female farmer - one of the most dangerous occupations on any list. nt riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #18

but men disproportionately perform the most dangerous jobs. that's just a fact. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #60

I'm sure you have an answer, and a source iverglas Apr 2012 #23

What relevance does any of the stuff you posted hold? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #26

that's for me to know iverglas Apr 2012 #28

oh, and by the way iverglas Apr 2012 #29

the actual source of your pretty pic has some more meaningful info iverglas Apr 2012 #33

Do you have a link for that? riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #34

Mining, farming, fishing, roofing, pay more than comparably skilled safe jobs. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #37

Link to factual back up your statements in your other post? riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #43

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You made the statement, back it up. nt riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #53

I did. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #61

You should commission a study... LanternWaste Apr 2012 #92

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is there a diffference between your behaviour in this thread iverglas Apr 2012 #41

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Something wrong with this statistic. For most people, 37 years is about close to a lifetime's work HiPointDem Apr 2012 #9

In 2010 women who worked full time, year round, still only earned 77 percent of what men earned Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #15

"average" HiPointDem Apr 2012 #20

I have no idea what you are talking about... Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #22

77% accounts for neither occupation nor overtime nor experience. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #27

Bureau of Labor Statistics says 81%. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #63

It's from the "Mitt Romney fun with math" school of statistics. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #19

And my sister washes shit off of old people. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #24

And the men that do the same job (I'm assuming nurses' aide) get the same lousy pay. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #65

Well, there is the rub. A traditional man's job (education and training) will command Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #68

and that's a question that "women only make 77% of what men do" does nothing to advance HiPointDem Apr 2012 #69

Actually, it does. And is the root of the parity movement. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #71

Equal pay for equal work is already the law of the land, and so is non-discrimination in hiring. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #74

and that's where i disagree with you, when you put wage differences in job categories down to HiPointDem Apr 2012 #73

How did "traditional mens jobs" become that? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #89

pretty funny iverglas Apr 2012 #25

Women ALWAYS put a higher premium on nonmonetary reward BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2012 #36

One at a time. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #51

"holding the same full-time, year-round job" is a misrepresentation, intentional or otherwise. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #81

yes, thank you! BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2012 #84

I agree that nurses aides are underpaid for what they do. That said, they *did* chose to do it. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #93

Your male friend doesn't "deserve" to get paid more than women. nt Liquorice Apr 2012 #64

He doesn't. The job does. nt lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #85

Women don't need to feed families. Iris Apr 2012 #12

I didn't say anything like that. They *do* need to feed families, and half of them do it on abysmal HiPointDem Apr 2012 #21

I was replying to the OP. Iris Apr 2012 #30

no problem, my mistake. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #58

Both kinds of disparities exist. undeterred Apr 2012 #31

The disparity between the bottom 20% and the top 20% is larger and has larger ramifications for HiPointDem Apr 2012 #57

The problem being laundry_queen Apr 2012 #75

Yes, they're going to hire the woman, but it could just as easily be an h1b male or anyone else HiPointDem Apr 2012 #78

mkay. laundry_queen Apr 2012 #88

I recently finished reading "Women Don't Ask" varelse Apr 2012 #48

Damn. lonestarnot Apr 2012 #59

Yeah. Rex Apr 2012 #62

Now that I read the entire article, I see how duplicitous it is. While trumpeting the lifetime HiPointDem Apr 2012 #76

I didn't know there were wage gap deniers. And to find one on the DU of all places! nt Liquorice Apr 2012 #82

show me where i deny a wage gap. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #83

Sure. There are some honest people here, too.nt lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #87

Nobody in the thread is denying a wage gap taught_me_patience Apr 2012 #91

Male full time workers also work more overtime. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #86

k&r Starry Messenger Apr 2012 #77