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76. There's an evolutionary reason?
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 05:48 PM
Nov 2014

...for mental illness, substance abuse, and genetic abnormalities like Down syndrome and autism?

They may have been some advantage 10,000 years ago. I've heard this about ADHD being a trait of hunters who had to look in multiple directions and multitask out in the killing fields; that what we consider "schizophrenic delusions" now were actually the visions of tribal shamans, and what we call autism was also a trait of secluded monks who didn't socialize very often and were more in tune with their "inner world." Dyslexia, I've heard, is only a disadvantage because we force people to read left-to-right scripts (this I doubt, because it's more than just reading the wrong direction or transposing letters). I don't know what advantage synesthetes had 10,000 years ago besides maybe also being thought of as having some sort of mystical gift. Down syndrome children were probably sacrificed 10,000 years ago, although maybe that wasn't the case because aren't most cases born to mothers over 40, and back then most people didn't even live that long? Plus, weren't "women" becoming mothers right from about the time they hit puberty? So maybe Down syndrome didn't even exist 10,000 years ago because of conditions that didn't exist then either.

Regardless, since we're not an agricultural nomadic hunter-gatherer society that ascribes high rank to fortune tellers, mead drinkers, mushroom-eaters, and people who have "visions" and talk to imaginary beings that no one else can perceive, why haven't those conditions or tendencies gone away if they're now considered detrimental rather than positive adaptations? The answer is because people who have those DNA markers and traits still continue to reproduce. And also because we have modern medicines that prevent nature from taking its course and weeding out those with congenital heart ailments, and diabetes, and childhood cancers, and other maladies that would have knocked you or your child dead once upon a time. We're probably seeing a negative trade-off in that we're allowing defective people to reproduce whom nature would have prevented from doing so otherwise, and creating new mutations and epidemics of illnesses that, if we had let "nature run its course," probably wouldn't even exist today.

The only solution I guess, if you want to let the nutters continue breeding (and create more nutters such as myself), is to give the born nutters carte blanche to do themselves in if they want to. I'm going OT here, but AFAIC just allowing abortion doesn't go far enough. I'm not a believer in the special-snowflake stuff that everyone has "gifts to give." I know I'm a nutter; my parents shouldn't have had me, but they did, and now I have to find a way to mitigate the circumstances before I become a burden upon society. Especially now that we've got fascists in both houses of Congress who are going to make circumstances even more of a living hell for people who don't "fit in."

I still am a believer in eugenics simply because nature didn't weed me out. And I believe that a "snip" of prevention is worth a lot of cure in terms of averting needless suffering.

K&R n/t Feral Child Nov 2014 #1
Damn right! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2014 #2
Yes, 100% agree. K&R. nt MH1 Nov 2014 #3
Oh yes shenmue Nov 2014 #4
yes niyad Nov 2014 #5
Taking away health care so that people with pre-existing conditions will die n2doc Nov 2014 #6
Reading that article this morning was what made me think about just how pro-death they have become. jillan Nov 2014 #11
Including much-needed AIDS medications Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #53
Maybe but the pro death label never really caught on aikoaiko Nov 2014 #7
I prefer 'Forced Birth,' as that is what they are trying to do, i.e., force women to KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #14
slavery. it is just plain slavery. mopinko Nov 2014 #41
It's not about abortion or contraception, it's about naughty ladies being punished for having sex. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #8
EXACTLY, Tierra_y_Libertad! Kath1 Nov 2014 #22
It's the "enjoyment" part that really riles them Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #55
Close Danascot Nov 2014 #70
My guess is that the GOP is going to attach this kind of BS to every jobs bill, unemp bill, etc... C Moon Nov 2014 #9
Or maybe YarnAddict Nov 2014 #10
Any parent of a stillborn child will tell you when life begins. PADemD Nov 2014 #12
Any woman with an ectopic pregnancy HockeyMom Nov 2014 #21
How many anti-aborts YarnAddict Nov 2014 #23
No this is what HAS been stated by many republican reps onecaliberal Nov 2014 #26
Who? YarnAddict Nov 2014 #27
Cory Gardener and Joni Earnst, to name two new ones gratuitous Nov 2014 #33
Quick Google search found this YarnAddict Nov 2014 #37
Ernst "might" support exceptions gratuitous Nov 2014 #45
you left out TN TNNurse Nov 2014 #42
Unless you live under a rock onecaliberal Nov 2014 #51
Here's Elise Stefanik (new R Rep) on abortion: YarnAddict Nov 2014 #28
Ah, the ol' hypocrisy position. JaneyVee Nov 2014 #62
But their leaders advocate for all of the above. Control-Z Nov 2014 #67
But their leaders advocate for all of the above. Control-Z Nov 2014 #68
My daughter almost died having one of those marlakay Nov 2014 #57
Yes, onecaliberal Nov 2014 #59
She wouldn't have been around to prosecute :( marlakay Nov 2014 #65
There are a lot of people YarnAddict Nov 2014 #24
I'm sorry you missed the entire point of what I posted. This points out many of the ways jillan Nov 2014 #13
Sorry, YarnAddict Nov 2014 #25
Doubtful, but if so Ineeda Nov 2014 #15
+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2014 #29
I do. One worked with Operation Rescue. She wanted to do away with birth control and alfredo Nov 2014 #31
Sounds like a jerk YarnAddict Nov 2014 #32
Maybe not, but she was in a position of power in the cult. alfredo Nov 2014 #35
Is that the organization that pays drug addicts to be sterilized? Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #54
Allow reproduction of all, and let nature take its course. alfredo Nov 2014 #63
There's an evolutionary reason? Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #76
The problem with eugenics is the same problem with nuclear energy, humans alfredo Nov 2014 #80
Hebrews believe life begins at first breath. Not conception. librechik Nov 2014 #46
Don't know. As President Obama once said YarnAddict Nov 2014 #47
When life begins is up to each person's beliefs and everyone is entitled to their own opinions. jillan Nov 2014 #49
absolutely--funny how the right toys with this notion librechik Nov 2014 #52
If life begins at conception, may as well say it begins at ejaculation Niko Nov 2014 #66
So true! Heather Kube Nov 2014 #16
True. SoapBox Nov 2014 #17
they are pro fetus. not pro CHILD. pansypoo53219 Nov 2014 #18
Very true. Kath1 Nov 2014 #19
all of that + endless funding from fetus-worshippers noiretextatique Nov 2014 #20
Your last line is the key BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #30
Their opposition to Roe Vs Wade was based on the right to privacy, not the fetus. alfredo Nov 2014 #34
Only Fetuses matter. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #36
You have described perfectly the most Bortman33 Nov 2014 #38
Enough Said tiptonic Nov 2014 #39
gotta wonder... artemis starwolf Nov 2014 #40
There is big $$$ in the adoption industry, and pro-forced birthers love adoption me b zola Nov 2014 #75
I actually had a person on another site to tell me that a locdlib Nov 2014 #43
That's the whole thing. This is not an abortion issue. If you're going to call yourself pro-life jillan Nov 2014 #48
Drives me crazy, too, jillan. Kath1 Nov 2014 #69
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Nov 2014 #44
They're the Oppositers. Everything they say they mean the opposite. nt valerief Nov 2014 #50
Kind of like the "Contrary" in "Little Big Man" Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #56
War on Poverty: Democrats vs Republicans flashsmith99 Nov 2014 #58
Those bastard Chrisitans again!!! NT Elmergantry Nov 2014 #60
there is nothing pro-life about sanctimonious repuke assholes Skittles Nov 2014 #61
They're selfish and authoritarian. They have a hideous anti-life world view. greendog Nov 2014 #64
The real reason is racism, pure and simple. They do not want to be out-numbered. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2014 #71
You would think then that they'd support abortions for nonwhites? Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #78
They need to stop saying this is in the name of Christianity Thav Nov 2014 #72
That was interesting stopwastingmymoney Nov 2014 #73
Actually, the REAL reason why Republicans are anti-abortion is,... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #74
Heard some on-air preacher compare abortion to blood libel Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #77
Amazing how they managed to word salad that and miss Area 51. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #79
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