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Bobbie Jo

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167. Better than

Fri Nov 14, 2014, 11:26 AM

Nov 2014

would be my guess....

Condescending as hell, no?

When people "come off" like this, I've found that I don't have much use for anything else they have to say, brilliant or otherwise....

Yuck.

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So let me get this straight... [View all] WilliamPitt Nov 2014 OP

nope youre absolutely right the parties are exactly the same belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #1

Not the same, but not nearly different enough. Scuba Nov 2014 #13

different but the same belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #15

+1 a whole bunch. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #69

Major climate change deal with China, Threatened Presidential veto of Congressional approval of KXL Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2014 #142

"Less than horrible" isn't good enough. Not for me, anyway. Scuba Nov 2014 #146

But it isn't just "less than horrible" Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2014 #154

If you're satisfied that today's Dems are good enough, then you and I have little in common. Scuba Nov 2014 #155

I have no problem with agreeing to disagree Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2014 #156

Problem is, we're not moving forward, we're moving backward. Scuba Nov 2014 #159

If you consider the ACA, Gay rights, a minimum wage increase ... 11 Bravo Nov 2014 #177

One step forward, two back is not progress. Yes, we've made some gains, but the losses ... Scuba Nov 2014 #190

You're letting Republicans set your standards and expectations Scootaloo Nov 2014 #178

hear, hear.. mountain grammy Nov 2014 #175

Your histrionics are duly noted. n/t RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #26

this is what im hearing here so they are not my histrionics belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #38

If they were both exactly the same do you think you might notice it? zeemike Nov 2014 #46

Exactly! This is a BULLSHIT post. These people need Reps: AllTooEasy Nov 2014 #63

Agree with you completely, except for one thing... leftieNanner Nov 2014 #68

Either the information stated as fact sulphurdunn Nov 2014 #73

Here's a clue: Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #104

If you mean someone has sulphurdunn Nov 2014 #165

You present the either/or fallacy. The information may be a fact... Moonwalk Nov 2014 #119

If what you write is true, then why do so many people we talk to comment that Republicans JDPriestly Nov 2014 #180

The either/or fallacy sulphurdunn Nov 2014 #183

Hell, if it were McCain or Romney, Americans would be dying in IRAN right now! rgbecker Nov 2014 #81

exactly - people dont get perfection they have a snit-fit and stay home belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #93

Exactly. The political divisions in this country are real and deep. cheapdate Nov 2014 #118

Personally i cant wait to see Women dying in back alleys again (sarcasm for christ sake) randys1 Nov 2014 #102

agreed some on here should be ashamed of themselves belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #105

Uff da... MineralMan Nov 2014 #2

Says a lot, doesn't it? Andy823 Nov 2014 #11

That doesn't work for 840high Nov 2014 #31

If you really believe that Andy823 Nov 2014 #79

I agre with you on that Andy! sheshe2 Nov 2014 #111

But it's not disdain for Democrats, it's disdain for conservatives. A Simple Game Nov 2014 #122

i know the piss-poor attitude here is disgraceful- but people here seem to wear it like a badge belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #40

He didn't claim they are the same. Hissyspit Nov 2014 #98

yea he did right here "Tell me again: Who needs Republicans?" belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #170

Would you have told the poor people of Kentucky that they had to vote A Simple Game Nov 2014 #123

He raises a valid point. Maedhros Nov 2014 #14

There are many, many issues. Some of them are even MineralMan Nov 2014 #16

Go ahead. Name some that are more important than TPP, Keystone (and you forgot) Iraq n/t RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #27

Human rights for millions of gay people. Voting rights. Abortion rights. The Environment. msanthrope Nov 2014 #29

+1 eom. 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #51

Gosh look at all that! SoapBox Nov 2014 #71

Agreed. Raine1967 Nov 2014 #75

And with that, you just won this thread. Sorry for the crappy prize Number23 Nov 2014 #107

+2 nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #109

~ sheshe2 Nov 2014 #112

And boom goes the dynamite... SidDithers Nov 2014 #186

The right to vote, LGBT rights, reproductive rights, and many MineralMan Nov 2014 #41

The right to vote for DINOs? Demeter Nov 2014 #89

I don't vote for DINOS. MineralMan Nov 2014 #100

I suggest you read TPP. It puts a partnership of corporate fascists overruling ballyhoo Nov 2014 #115

TPP would affect more than just trade and the corporate world Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #120

Excellent post, Art. I am beginning to wonder if ballyhoo Nov 2014 #143

I understand that many are concerned about the environment, myself included: olegramps Nov 2014 #172

The oil will move, one way or another. MineralMan Nov 2014 #173

Food programs, Social Security, Medical programs, Housing, Jobs, Education. I am very much jwirr Nov 2014 #47

Benghazi! BobbyBoring Nov 2014 #70

Besides ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #50

Not many know what was/is written in either of those two deals. Most of it done by midnight Nov 2014 #137

All politics is local BumRushDaShow Nov 2014 #88

The problem is not reality. It is the voters' and the media's perception of the reality. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #181

Better question. Who the hell needs Democrats? Autumn Nov 2014 #3

What is the object of "enemy's?" nt msanthrope Nov 2014 #30

To annoy people who notice grammar errors and mispellings. uppityperson Nov 2014 #83

Buncha people who probably don't post here answered that one already. n/t jtuck004 Nov 2014 #59

look, I understand your frustration, but please, the two parties are not the same cali Nov 2014 #4

Do I need to remind you WilliamPitt Nov 2014 #5

Yep Andy823 Nov 2014 #7

Get over it ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #53

Really? Andy823 Nov 2014 #77

I should have used the sarcasm thingy. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #84

If I remember correctly, and I do... sheshe2 Nov 2014 #113

If we are reminding people of things... MineralMan Nov 2014 #8

You know what MM let the GOPers take their country back! Iliyah Nov 2014 #28

Oh, we can remind people of all sorts of things. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2014 #74

Knock yourself out... MineralMan Nov 2014 #103

Cool. I think you're giving me permission to ask a question I've always wanted to ask you. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2014 #108

I'm not giving you anything. MineralMan Nov 2014 #110

Ok. I'll leave that question unexamined. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2014 #148

Good decision. MineralMan Nov 2014 #153

Great hijacking of the thread already. Please proceed. nt Mojorabbit Nov 2014 #133

No where in that op do I allude to the two parties being the same cali Nov 2014 #12

That was a fair and honest thread you started. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #60

wow. what world do you live in that you think this: cali Nov 2014 #138

babycakes, obviously you misunderstood. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #147

"Honeypie"? Who the fuck do you think you are?? nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #163

Better than Bobbie Jo Nov 2014 #167

Neither does Will. Hissyspit Nov 2014 #99

Maybe you don't need Republicans, William Recursion Nov 2014 #6

And you're probably aware that he (and I, and virtually everyone here) LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #17

Then why write an OP pretending they aren't different? Recursion Nov 2014 #19

The OP is about policies in which they AREN'T different LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #21

Well I don't think the D's (or the R's) would support another Iraq deployment if it came to a vote Recursion Nov 2014 #22

Rs want more ground troop interventions Iliyah Nov 2014 #32

It is easy to agree with you because you describe the situation we are in. I get angry when some jwirr Nov 2014 #56

"Being poor has taught me that there is a big difference." BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #64

I learned it the hard way. Thank you. jwirr Nov 2014 #65

I watched Pryor and Cotton commercials on Arkansas TV Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #189

Have you wrote about the horrors of the Front Range NGL Pipeline yet? snooper2 Nov 2014 #9

Get ready for Hillary. Octafish Nov 2014 #10

Elections have consequences Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #18

You beat me to it. + infinity stevenleser Nov 2014 #25

You agree with that crap? Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2014 #130

That elections have consequences? Are you disputing that? nt stevenleser Nov 2014 #169

No but that isn't the first time I've seen that poster saying America wanted a sshift to the right. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2014 #187

37 % voted, Iliyah Nov 2014 #35

Wait. So the result of the election is making Democrats preemptively move to the right? progressoid Nov 2014 #36

Correct. Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #39

Bullshit. Absolute bullshit. truebrit71 Nov 2014 #52

Here's the problem Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #72

I blame that on slogans too, in part. arcane1 Nov 2014 #76

Depends. If only 36.6 per cent of voters voted that means an even lower ballyhoo Nov 2014 #116

....and that % who voted , was only voting for 1/3 of congress. Hardly a "mandate " pkdu Nov 2014 #136

That does not logically follow. Marr Nov 2014 #131

The Koch Brothers do. eShirl Nov 2014 #20

i don't seem to equate "who needs republicans" m-lekktor Nov 2014 #23

You're not wrong, but one party is far right and the other is just right of center. Dawgs Nov 2014 #24

Obama is center left. As is the country. Most just don't know it! Zen Democrat Nov 2014 #43

Actually you could be right. If we are lucky they will continue their do nothing policy and they jwirr Nov 2014 #33

One party takes a rusty wire brush to your backside, JEB Nov 2014 #34

i thought he went to china about greenhouse gasses belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #37

He's not a dictator. He would have to approve Keystone regardless of the Senate. Zen Democrat Nov 2014 #42

Most liberal since JFK? former9thward Nov 2014 #61

And Obama was wrong. In fact, on MANY if most, issues NYC Liberal Nov 2014 #121

Obama was wrong...about himself? LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #184

Yes. Nixon was NOT more liberal in ANY respect. NYC Liberal Nov 2014 #188

rec this post. unrec the opening post. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #67

Bravo/Brava sheshe2 Nov 2014 #114

why can't you write pretty, like stevie and nance? KG Nov 2014 #44

Good question KG Autumn Nov 2014 #85

Needs more italics. OnyxCollie Nov 2014 #128

Which is why I vote for/against policies and principles rather than party or politician. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #45

+10 840high Nov 2014 #101

Oh but look! MissDeeds Nov 2014 #48

SOME OF US GET IT Skittles Nov 2014 #49

Will, I invite you to the Discussionist, where you can talk to real live Republicans ConservativeDemocrat Nov 2014 #54

The worst part of the trip to China, in my opinion... TeeYiYi Nov 2014 #55

The President's view is in line with the Dalai Lama's chowder66 Nov 2014 #80

I get it I really do Kalidurga Nov 2014 #57

Oh well. I was hoping this would be the first post this millennia that begins with "so let me get Number23 Nov 2014 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author Rex Nov 2014 #91

I have no use for Republicans, or any Democrat acting like one. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #62

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Nov 2014 #66

We've Come A Long Way colsohlibgal Nov 2014 #78

When a political party sulphurdunn Nov 2014 #82

Maybe this won't mean anything to you, but I sure hope that it does. blue neen Nov 2014 #86

Check, check and check ReRe Nov 2014 #87

well, as you can see, many are satified with a slow death by a thousand cuts stupidicus Nov 2014 #90

I see your fans showed up to hrummphh at you Rex Nov 2014 #92

Progressive party INdemo Nov 2014 #94

K and R bigwillq Nov 2014 #95

As Truman famously said: Odin2005 Nov 2014 #96

You do! IronLionZion Nov 2014 #97

but how can this be both parties are the same belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #106

Dems often start out as the opposite of Republicans.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #117

Hater! polichick Nov 2014 #124

K&R DeSwiss Nov 2014 #125

+1. nt OnyxCollie Nov 2014 #129

The horrible truth. woo me with science Nov 2014 #132

Indeed! (eom) CanSocDem Nov 2014 #150

Kick and R. BeanMusical Nov 2014 #126

Who? democrats. How else would they get elected? grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #127

China climate agreement? Vetoing keystone? mahina Nov 2014 #134

Newsflash: You don't have Democrats in power any more BainsBane Nov 2014 #135

Thank you, Will. woo me with science Nov 2014 #139

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #140

Your memory is as short as most Americans. Rose Siding Nov 2014 #141

Exactly. alarimer Nov 2014 #144

Exactly! ballyhoo Nov 2014 #145

There are plenty of other sites for bashing Democrats oberliner Nov 2014 #149

You say bashing. WilliamPitt Nov 2014 #161

Gelatinous crap! We have become gelatinous crap. lonestarnot Nov 2014 #151

I have no hope. I see no future. Hotler Nov 2014 #152

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Nov 2014 #157

Nobody needs republicans, or Democrats who act like republicans. Zorra Nov 2014 #158

I think you got it Will! but, McConnell thinks he has to stop that socialist in B Calm Nov 2014 #160

Let's make it official WilliamPitt Nov 2014 #162

Give it a rest maxrandb Nov 2014 #164

Heh. WilliamPitt Nov 2014 #166

Yes, I'm sure that maxrandb Nov 2014 #193

I don't know about the troops to Iraq Babel_17 Nov 2014 #168

-- Lyndon Johnson, 1964 WilliamPitt Nov 2014 #171

I see that as being very different Babel_17 Nov 2014 #182

I'm usually right there with you, Mr. Pitt. staggerleem Nov 2014 #174

Honestly .. I have to take a couple of aspirin every time I read one of your ops Peacetrain Nov 2014 #176

K&R. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #179

... SidDithers Nov 2014 #185

Will, it seems that you've touched a nerve ....... marmar Nov 2014 #191

We live to serve. WilliamPitt Nov 2014 #192