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18. He stand no chance

Thu Nov 20, 2014, 02:49 PM

Nov 2014

He won't be able to win the nomination yet alone the general election.

Won't be able to raise the money to win either.

Not a member of the Dem party -- if he changes he will be viewed as a opportunist.

Too old for many.

Warren is the answer for the progressive wing of the party.

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Can someone give me a serious answer: How does Bernie Sanders win? [View all] brooklynite Nov 2014 OP

By people like me voting for him. (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #1

Aye. And me. nt Union Scribe Nov 2014 #5

Plus me and my whole family. polichick Nov 2014 #29

And like me and all my family and friends. Zorra Nov 2014 #95

And me. Scuba Nov 2014 #150

He doesn't... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #2

Johnny-come-lately, how many years has he caucused with dems? aspirant Nov 2014 #22

still NOT one..... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #46

It is way easy to be a Democrat. All you do is check a box, it isn't an amazing feat. TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #166

and he STILL hasn't.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #167

So what? Being a Democrat is not a feat nor transformational. It is checking a box on a form. TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #173

but winning said primary as a johnny come lately VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #174

The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step. Autumn Nov 2014 #3

that journey of a thousand miles requires money..... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #4

The presidential race in 2016 is the Democrats to win or lose. Jim Webb Autumn Nov 2014 #11

sorry....Bernie ain't going to win the Dem Primary against ACTUAL Democrats.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #41

Perhaps, but it all depends on if any Liberal Democrats are running or not. Autumn Nov 2014 #44

She says no....AND she supports Hillary Clinton! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #47

Things can change, and things will most likely change. Hillary may not run. Autumn Nov 2014 #58

Oh so now Liz is a liar? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #60

Are we friends again yet? Autumn Nov 2014 #65

I ain't friends with Left Leaning Independents who cannot pledge to vote for whomever wins the VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #69

I don't do loyalty oaths, in fact I don't know any Democrats that do. Do you know any who do? Autumn Nov 2014 #74

I don't care what Left Leaning Independents think... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #75

For you my friend. Autumn Nov 2014 #80

for you.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #81

If you don't like that song about our deep friendship I will look for another. Autumn Nov 2014 #94

told you I dont want a date.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #145

you mean like how HRC said she would never run again after 2008 krawhitham Nov 2014 #144

color me not impressed VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #146

there are several Liberals mentioned.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #53

Hillary a LIBERAL? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #70

Watch out you might make a friend. Autumn Nov 2014 #76

Oh yes...and I can prove it... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #77

LOL, that site is a joke. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #83

This again? SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #100

Where the fuck do you get these dumb talking points? Odin2005 Nov 2014 #66

Do you think Bernie Sanders WON'T vote for Hillary Clinton when she wins the Primary VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #78

When did to you stop beating your spouse? Odin2005 Nov 2014 #84

Quick ask her if she will sign an oath to stop beating up on her best friend. Autumn Nov 2014 #96

There are a lot of people that HappyMe Nov 2014 #85

Money that bribes an unprincipled sell-out candidate? aspirant Nov 2014 #26

Who are you referring to as unprincipled? jwirr Nov 2014 #43

Anyone who takes mega-millions from corps and then does their bidding aspirant Nov 2014 #64

That leaves out a lot of Democrats. I do not see the 1% offering them much support. jwirr Nov 2014 #90

Compare Hillary vs Bernie aspirant Nov 2014 #138

I understand....but even Bernie cannot get elected for free.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #48

Do I interpret your comment as saying it's okay for Bernie to lose the election... brooklynite Nov 2014 #7

Interpret it any way you wish. Bernie will most likely run as a Dem. Autumn Nov 2014 #13

and if he doesn't and Liz doesn't.....do you pledge to vote for whomever wins the Primary? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #50

No. I will not do your silly little fucking loyalty pledge. Autumn Nov 2014 #56

because you can't.....you know the outcome! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #57

You are so hilarious Autumn Nov 2014 #59

Not hilarious...HONEST.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #61

Autumn, I agree with much of what you say, but I must respectfully disagree with this post. (n/t) Jim Lane Nov 2014 #147

I disagreed with it when I wrote it Jim, but you know we have rules Autumn Nov 2014 #151

If you believe any Democrat would sign a loyalty oath you wouldn't know a true Democrat Autumn Nov 2014 #102

Democrats on here...admit freely everyday to voting for the winner of the Primary... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #106

I am? OMG who gave you my fake identity at the other site????? Autumn Nov 2014 #109

Fuck this fascist loyalty pledge shit. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #72

says the Left-Leaning Independent.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #73

I'm not an "independent", I'm a socialist. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #82

+1 deutsey Nov 2014 #88

I'm gonna be whatever Bernie is. I've voted a straight Democratic ticket for well over 40 years. Autumn Nov 2014 #101

and Bernie WILL vote for Hillary Clinton...will YOU? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #105

I hope not. Autumn Nov 2014 #107

If she wins the Primary...I GUARANTEE he will! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #108

Hey girl friend I gotta grind up some beef to make my summer sausage so I can get it ready for the Autumn Nov 2014 #112

I don't date girls....thanks for the offer though... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #113

I didn't ask you for a date Autumn Nov 2014 #114

Obviously you do.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #115

See how cruel you are? Autumn Nov 2014 #117

Yep thats me.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #118

You do know you are my favorite 3rd way socialist democrat? Autumn Nov 2014 #120

I obviously don't give a damn what a Left Leaning Independent who wont commit to voting VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #121

I didn't ask you for a date. I wanted to share Hillary's recipe with you. Autumn Nov 2014 #124

Yes you have...multiple times.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #125

I just thought that if we become good friends this conflict we find ourselves in Autumn Nov 2014 #128

Do you want me to call you with the recipe for my Summer Sausage? It's very good. Autumn Nov 2014 #116

I don't cook Left Leaning Independent recipes... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #119

Did you know I got this recipe from Hillary when she was First Lady of Arkansas? Autumn Nov 2014 #122

Yeah my principles do....not sure what your problem is.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #123

You don't want to talk to me? You keep finding me and talking to me on different threads so I Autumn Nov 2014 #126

I told you I am not interested in dating you..... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #127

Can we be friends? We have a lot in common. Well except for Hillary. Autumn Nov 2014 #131

I haven't asked you for a date but you are a very wise young woman not to date a friend. Autumn Nov 2014 #135

but if you cannot say you WILL vote for the Democrat that wins the Primary.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #104

Well said. HappyMe Nov 2014 #8

I was ready for Hillary at one time. Now I'm ready for Bernie, Liz or Autumn Nov 2014 #14

Hillary won't need ya...don't worry.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #63

What is going on? Puglover Nov 2014 #157

Hey you! I thnk they like the other site better. Autumn Nov 2014 #160

Good. Fiinally coming out of this disgusting cold crap. Puglover Nov 2014 #161

The way the weather keeps changing sucks, it's played hell with my sinuses Autumn Nov 2014 #162

Yup. Puglover Nov 2014 #163

In 1964 Goldwater got his ass handed to him Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #12

And it's time to move it back. One party just doesn't work. Autumn Nov 2014 #17

It seems to me like it HappyMe Nov 2014 #35

How does he win the nomination or how does he win the General Election? - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #6

Both... brooklynite Nov 2014 #10

It's too early to talk about how he might win the General Election, especially given KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #21

Good Job Comrades! 2banon Nov 2014 #51

By focusing all of his energy on early caucus states. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #9

People send him money? And collect it for him? bravenak Nov 2014 #15

The big lie that Democrats are socialsts is embedded in our electorate and Sanders association Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #16

Pardon me, but f*ck that red-baiting shit. Sanders is no Socialist any way, at least in his KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #31

The people who run campaigns will use it as an achor and he will not get a fair hearing. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #98

A better way aspirant Nov 2014 #38

Personally, I don't think he will even get a fair hearing in a primary. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #99

"Socialist" does not have has negative conotations for Millennials. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #62

Well that assumes they bother to show up and vote. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #103

You missed where I said an honest-to-god socialist could... Odin2005 Nov 2014 #136

An "honest-to-god socialist" would be the opium of the millenial masses? Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #137

He stand no chance CityDem Nov 2014 #18

How do we get the issues that matter to many of upaloopa Nov 2014 #19

Articulating an economic populist message that resonates across the spectrum? Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #20

A free once of Vermont weed for everyone. aikoaiko Nov 2014 #23

Just like any other candidate. He convinces more voters to vote for him than the other candidates. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #24

People that hear Bernie's message, they like Bernie's message. Autumn Nov 2014 #27

Exactly. I didn't vote for McGovern, Dukakis, and others because of their "electability". Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #32

Well said! polichick Nov 2014 #33

he wont win but he might push our entire conversation to the left. La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2014 #25

An Overton window thing-- Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #34

Yes, and in my book that would count as a win. Jim Lane Nov 2014 #148

Same here emulatorloo Nov 2014 #152

by tapping into the votes that HRC will never get reddread Nov 2014 #28

The people of this country miraculously Cosmocat Nov 2014 #30

Obama is NOT a Socialist, but they claim he is. Atman Nov 2014 #36

If Sanders can plausibily advocate a working-class agenda, i.e., an agenda for those KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #40

those people will never vote for him, or HRC eom noiretextatique Nov 2014 #130

Okay, say we accept your analysis that she is the only one who can win. Many of us support Bernie jwirr Nov 2014 #37

Please go back and re-read the last paragraph of my post, and then re-state your question. brooklynite Nov 2014 #42

Fine but I am not going to restate the question. Too many Hillary supporters need to be asked jwirr Nov 2014 #89

How do we enforce campaign promises when they are broken? aspirant Nov 2014 #45

A combination of refusing to reelect them and just plain raising hell. Getting out there and jwirr Nov 2014 #92

Simple, he isn't going to get the nomination and wouldn't win in a general election Lurks Often Nov 2014 #39

That's the problem. The Democratic Party chooses, not "We the People". aspirant Nov 2014 #52

You are aware of Hillary's age, aren't you? n/t Aerows Nov 2014 #110

I am, I don't see her getting the nomination either Lurks Often Nov 2014 #111

I'd vote for him over Hillary in a Primary HockeyMom Nov 2014 #49

He will pull in a lot of independents if he runs on a Dem ticket. Rex Nov 2014 #54

I`m not sure Bernie thinks he is going to win democrank Nov 2014 #55

this wryter2000 Nov 2014 #68

Changing the conversation LWolf Nov 2014 #155

how does the nation win if HRC wins? Doctor_J Nov 2014 #67

I think he's in it for the bully pulpit on the campaign trail Warpy Nov 2014 #71

He doesn't - the republican wins liberal N proud Nov 2014 #79

The PTB(shadow government) will never let Sanders or Warren near the White House...n/t Hotler Nov 2014 #86

I've liked Bernie since he was first elected deutsey Nov 2014 #87

I love how we're supposed to assume Hillary is the only choice RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #91

admittedly improbable scenario, but here's how i think it could work: 0rganism Nov 2014 #93

People win elections when voters vote for them. Bernie would walk with Oregon easily. Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #97

and California noiretextatique Nov 2014 #133

He doesn't... Peacetrain Nov 2014 #129

He doesn't. That's the cold, hard truth. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2014 #132

He can't. LostInAnomie Nov 2014 #134

Hillary can't win. aspirant Nov 2014 #139

Let's imagine she DOES win... Atman Nov 2014 #140

Yeah, "Hillary can't win" seems to be the DU line. LostInAnomie Nov 2014 #142

He takes an extremely safe stance on guns. joshcryer Nov 2014 #141

DU has lurched, period Hekate Nov 2014 #143

Blahblahblah. Nominate the chosen Wall St. Third Way corporatist Democratic candidate. Zorra Nov 2014 #149

Sanders doesn't strike me as having the personality or presence for it. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #153

Like this: LWolf Nov 2014 #154

He connects with voters by talking about issues that really matter to them. KamaAina Nov 2014 #156

Stranger things have happened . . . markpkessinger Nov 2014 #158

How did he win his senate seat? B Calm Nov 2014 #159

The same way Barack won quaker bill Nov 2014 #164

I don't think Goldman Sachs will be helping out Sanders like they did Obama RiverLover Nov 2014 #172

Money is useful quaker bill Nov 2014 #179

Ponies, unicorns & pixie dust. baldguy Nov 2014 #165

He doesn't win and that is a shame. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #168

If he is on a national ticket the media will have no choice but to let him speak JonLP24 Nov 2014 #169

Mondale had an opportunity to speak as well.... brooklynite Nov 2014 #171

lots of 5-figure campaign donations? KG Nov 2014 #170

practically speaking ... shireen Nov 2014 #175

If his message resonates over the other candidates still_one Nov 2014 #176

In the old days maybe.... Historic NY Nov 2014 #177

How does Hillary? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #178