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DemandsRedPill

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60. There may also be a valid yet less obvious reason for his untimely death

Sun Nov 30, 2014, 04:29 PM

Nov 2014

The odds of Wilson being a racist are good

The odds of Brown being targeted in more ways than one simply because he is black?

Equally good

But why is there not more discussion of the more obvious yet less challenged fact that Ferguson has a police force that is dominated by white men yet the predominance of those under their dictates are black

Could Michael Brown now be healthy and productive had he or some of his friends opted to challenge the status quo and demand that their elected 'overseers' more reflect the nature of the majority demographics?

Perhaps be the change he wanted to see?

It's too late now.

Just asking

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Michael Brown is Dead Because He Did Not Say, "Yassuh, Massa" [View all] MineralMan Nov 2014 OP

I think you are absolutely correct, when the cop said "get the fuck out of the street" NoJusticeNoPeace Nov 2014 #1

At that point, things went horribly wrong, because a white cop MineralMan Nov 2014 #4

I agree, MineralMan! summerschild Nov 2014 #15

+1 million Louisiana1976 Nov 2014 #52

According to Dorian Johnson's testimony in Volume 4 of the GJ transcript, Mike KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #40

Yeah, just too much of a pussy! BobbyBoring Nov 2014 #90

I plan later when my temper has cooled to read the transcript of Wilson's KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #92

Clearly you haven't read phil89 Nov 2014 #99

Me and a few million others... NoJusticeNoPeace Nov 2014 #104

I agree azmom Nov 2014 #2

+1,000 malaise Nov 2014 #3

You're absolutely right. MineralMan Nov 2014 #8

Precisely malaise Nov 2014 #11

President Obama has been showing a great deal of self control over the years Gothmog Nov 2014 #108

Way more than I would have shown malaise Nov 2014 #112

And the biggest deniers of racism Liberal Lolita Nov 2014 #48

Racism is like global warming. Some people deny it, but it exists. Louisiana1976 Nov 2014 #58

You are correct malaise Nov 2014 #87

At least you can admit that it is just an opinion... Oktober Nov 2014 #5

Everything I post is my opinion. MineralMan Nov 2014 #9

And his opinion is shared by the vast majority of decent human beings. 99Forever Nov 2014 #49

Based on copious research on your part I'm sure... Oktober Nov 2014 #77

The obvious is obvious. 99Forever Nov 2014 #111

We don't represent "the vast majority" of anything on DU. MadDAsHell Dec 2014 #117

The poster did write F4lconF16 Dec 2014 #118

Thanks, I do understand that... MadDAsHell Dec 2014 #120

Just a suggestion. 99Forever Dec 2014 #128

I think that is about the closest we will get to the truth. Rex Nov 2014 #6

That's exactly it! loyalsister Nov 2014 #7

But even white guys are advised to meekly comply to police commands. Kablooie Nov 2014 #10

We all learn these things but not at the exact same age. nt BootinUp Nov 2014 #12

That's a good idea, certainly. MineralMan Nov 2014 #14

True the escalation is likely to be more extreme for AfAm people. Kablooie Nov 2014 #20

First encounter with police at 18 the cop greeted us this way 'You fags need to get out of town'. Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #34

Yes. You were part of another oppressed minority group. MineralMan Nov 2014 #98

In December of 2011, in the shadow of 9/11, I, a white woman, decided NOT ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #78

Here's an encounter that even as a white guy would not turn out the same these days. About 1981 brewens Dec 2014 #123

Well said... Spazito Nov 2014 #13

i agree. i was in that situation once noiretextatique Nov 2014 #16

Yes. You were right to do that, MineralMan Nov 2014 #28

second part of this story: the justus tax noiretextatique Nov 2014 #42

Yes. Most people just have to eat the fine, instead of MineralMan Nov 2014 #51

i didn't do anything wrong, except forget to turn on my lights noiretextatique Nov 2014 #61

I salute and applaud your courage. - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #45

it helped that a friend was right behind me, watching the whole thing noiretextatique Nov 2014 #47

Exactly! daleanime Nov 2014 #17

you are absolutely correct heaven05 Nov 2014 #18

True, partly, but that's a dangerously narrow conclusion you're making. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #19

I admire people including kids who JEB Nov 2014 #21

Yes, indeed. And, kids are being indoctrinated to accept the new police state. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #23

Holy Fright Night BootinUp Nov 2014 #30

The cops' grins YarnAddict Nov 2014 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Dec 2014 #124

Seriously? YarnAddict Nov 2014 #29

Off we go meekly to the "showers". JEB Nov 2014 #33

Do we all get to choose which laws to obey? YarnAddict Nov 2014 #36

Yeah, get the fuck out of the street is now the law. JEB Nov 2014 #115

Yeah, and "Get out of the street" YarnAddict Dec 2014 #119

Mike Brown is DEAD. JEB Dec 2014 #122

Not a "fuck you" attitude. More of a "do you have a warrant?" attitude. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #37

"Do you have a warrant YarnAddict Nov 2014 #44

They don't need a warrant to order you out f the street. Flatulo Nov 2014 #102

OK this is getting a little silly now. Socal31 Nov 2014 #22

What was silly about the OP? NoJusticeNoPeace Nov 2014 #66

Of all the race threads I see currently, this is the least worthy of consuming. Socal31 Nov 2014 #79

a cowardly turd maggot like Wilson needs people to fear him olddots Nov 2014 #24

I agree…. raging_moderate Nov 2014 #25

^^^^ That onecaliberal Nov 2014 #43

Yep, lots of em around here seems to me NoJusticeNoPeace Nov 2014 #70

I agree with your observation. onecaliberal Nov 2014 #88

How about saying, YarnAddict Nov 2014 #26

It was Wilson that needed to get the fuck out of the street. JEB Nov 2014 #31

If he had complied... MineralMan Nov 2014 #32

You are indeed victim blaming and the worst sort, since you are ascribing words KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #53

What words am I ascribing to Brown????? YarnAddict Nov 2014 #74

The only words exchanged between Wilson and either of the two men before Wilson reversed KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #86

I didn't read the transcripts of the testimony YarnAddict Nov 2014 #93

Your white sons are not subject to the same onecaliberal Nov 2014 #91

Of course I wasn't comparing! YarnAddict Nov 2014 #95

How do you know Michael wasn't given the same instruction? onecaliberal Nov 2014 #110

You're entitled to answer as you please... MrMickeysMom Nov 2014 #94

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck..... daleanime Nov 2014 #105

Well…. It didn't walk like it, nor talk like it... MrMickeysMom Nov 2014 #113

I don't think you get it…. raging_moderate Dec 2014 #125

It is that simple. Even reading those ugly words gives me a chill. logosoco Nov 2014 #27

"Actively breaking the law" YarnAddict Nov 2014 #35

A police office may detain you for probable cause, may issue a citation for jaywalking. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #41

Or, YarnAddict Nov 2014 #50

No doubt. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #54

If you are white you are describing the luxury of knowing your white skin will likely protect you NoJusticeNoPeace Nov 2014 #71

I will acknowledge my privilege YarnAddict Nov 2014 #80

This time he may have run into someone unwilling to take his racist shit... NoJusticeNoPeace Nov 2014 #81

If I could define breaking the law, the world would look a lot different! logosoco Nov 2014 #89

hmmm, maybe. Maybe not. There is, you know, a continuum between Schema Thing Nov 2014 #38

It's likely that he will not face any official sanctions at all. MineralMan Nov 2014 #46

I'm hoping the DOJ can/will do something Schema Thing Nov 2014 #57

The DOJ might file a civil rights violation case, I suppose. MineralMan Nov 2014 #65

Well I do think the city is responsible to a large degree Schema Thing Nov 2014 #69

Yes. I do, too. MineralMan Nov 2014 #73

The DOJ will likely force the Ferguson police department to make significant changes Gothmog Nov 2014 #109

...fast enough. grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #55

That too. MineralMan Nov 2014 #100

Only in a idiocracy type society damnedifIknow Nov 2014 #56

As I posted elsewhere: Another armed male killing an unarmed younger and Black male for WALKING IN WinkyDink Nov 2014 #59

There may also be a valid yet less obvious reason for his untimely death DemandsRedPill Nov 2014 #60

There are many questions to be part of larger conversations, but the immediate one is: WHY no trial? WinkyDink Nov 2014 #63

There are many factors at play here, MineralMan Nov 2014 #68

"But why is there not more discussion" < Try reading a little history and psychology, answer your jtuck004 Dec 2014 #146

Hmmm DemandsRedPill Dec 2014 #147

No thanks. I have no need of using racist excuses to castigate people. Your mileage may vary. jtuck004 Dec 2014 #148

Let's see "Racist Cop" "Bigoted Cop" "White Cop" Joe Turner Nov 2014 #62

Have you noticed this is NOT A JURY and we are NOT JURORS. Gee, the ignorant GRAND JURY precluded WinkyDink Nov 2014 #64

Look. I wouldn't be called to any jury, anyhow. MineralMan Nov 2014 #72

"I believe my view is pretty clear and objective" Joe Turner Nov 2014 #83

Agreed, Mineral Man has eyes and ears and a brain, he therefore can see, hear and witness NoJusticeNoPeace Nov 2014 #76

Evidently he can read peoples' mind too Joe Turner Nov 2014 #85

Yes, Yes, and, well, Yes. Iggo Dec 2014 #134

Good thread Gothmog Nov 2014 #67

Thanks. MineralMan Nov 2014 #75

Yes indeed Bettie Nov 2014 #82

So true.. ariesgem Nov 2014 #84

For Some Reason, On the Road Nov 2014 #96

i believe you are right samsingh Nov 2014 #97

As a white guy, I can't see where I would expect it to come out any differently for me. simak Nov 2014 #101

I see. MineralMan Nov 2014 #103

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #137

The penalty for "contempt of Cop" has long been injury or death. NutmegYankee Nov 2014 #106

It's enough to make some of us old Liberals kind of bitter. I thought we'd outgrown this s*t... Hekate Nov 2014 #107

It's always a good idea to comply with a cop's instructions, regardless of your race. Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #114

I missed the evidence for "racism" and "bigotry." MadDAsHell Dec 2014 #116

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #138

Yowsssa libodem Dec 2014 #121

Nope, I think it is because he confronted a racist cop still_one Dec 2014 #126

Chris Rock, is that you? BootinUp Dec 2014 #127

Kicked and recommended. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2014 #129

That's the fact, Jack. Iggo Dec 2014 #130

Uhhh... didn't he punch the cop in the face? LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #131

Yep. And that "Yessuh, Massa" better be sincere and not seen as being sarcastic BlueCaliDem Dec 2014 #132

k&r... spanone Dec 2014 #133

So that justified Michael Brown to escalate it to another level? True Earthling Dec 2014 #135

That's your opionion. You lost the argument when the demenstrations doc03 Dec 2014 #136

I don't remember a Presidents special meeting on Occupy...hmmm BootinUp Dec 2014 #139

All the president is going to do is drive his polls down even doc03 Dec 2014 #140

I don't remember football players holding 99% banners either. nt BootinUp Dec 2014 #141

I couldn't care less about the opinion of doc03 Dec 2014 #142

Yes, they are, we all are BootinUp Dec 2014 #143

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #144

So in your world, a "suspect" is open game for ugly beast ferocious racist robocops? bluesbassman Dec 2014 #145