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redstatebluegirl

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Mon Dec 1, 2014, 04:31 PM Dec 2014

Has anyone found this to be true since President Obama was elected? [View all]

I am a white mid western girl transplanted to Oklahoma. I have been a diversity trainer, on the side, for almost 20 years. I openly admit that from time to time even I make what might be called cultural mistakes, but they are not made with anger, they are made due to ignorance of the feelings and life experience of others.

We were raised to respect all people, Mom would not tolerate injustice, always expected us to treat people as we would want to be treated.

The past 6 years since President Obama was elected, the serious racists have come out from under their rocks to attack all Black people. Disrespect abounds, no Black person is safe from their hatred and intolerance. What has been interesting to me is that I have found that Black friends of mine, many who I have had for years, some since undergrad, have become so angry with the system that they are looking at every white person with the same hatred, no exceptions.

I find I am afraid to talk with them about anything of substance for fear of offending them and have them accuse me of being intolerant. It really hurts me to lose some friends I have loved for so long. We have sat in my living and argued about tons of things, including race relations over the years, but still came away friends. I don't sense that is possible any longer and it makes me sad.

I taught a diversity class last week that came close to blows. It was a group who all work together and have for some time. According to their boss, the racial dynamics have been getting worse by the day for the past 6 years. I can tell you I have never led a group like that one. The minute I brought up white privilege the place was up for grabs, screaming and hollering at each other, talking, no screaming about Ferguson and Wilson being set up and treated unfairly. One young Black woman in the back of the room held her own in the "discussion" but it escalated to the point that one older Black lady asked if she could be excused because she was "fearful".

Once I got control again, we went on to other exercises but the room was full of tension. I suggested to the owner of the business that he may want to bring in a professional mediator to try and help the situation.

The divisions are worse than I have ever seen, I said a few years ago I felt a civil war was very possible and was pretty much shut down here on DU, how do you feel now? Have any of your opinions regarding race changed?

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Wow, Wellstone ruled Dec 2014 #1
I felt that the assholes started coming out of the shadows during the Bush admin. tk2kewl Dec 2014 #2
Maybe, but I didn't see it as nasty until after November 2008. redstatebluegirl Dec 2014 #5
i can honestly say that prior to the obama presidency... tk2kewl Dec 2014 #9
Katrina was the eye opener ... GeorgeGist Dec 2014 #18
I wonder how much of this economic as well el_bryanto Dec 2014 #3
I think a lot of it is economic bhikkhu Dec 2014 #8
^^^^^this^^^^coupled with a media that is exacerbating the problem. nt okaawhatever Dec 2014 #13
And when you bring up the phrase customerserviceguy Dec 2014 #33
It has pluses and minuses el_bryanto Dec 2014 #36
In college customerserviceguy Dec 2014 #42
I don't think racism has increased nichomachus Dec 2014 #4
I didn't mean to imply it had increased redstatebluegirl Dec 2014 #6
Yes, it's acceptable now. But its more than that. progressoid Dec 2014 #11
Obama's election has caused their anger to boil over. JoePhilly Dec 2014 #7
I think it has gotten worse Liberal Lolita Dec 2014 #10
Lots of voices stoking division KT2000 Dec 2014 #12
Very well said, thank you! redstatebluegirl Dec 2014 #14
You have made some good comments, KT2000. brer cat Dec 2014 #24
Racism has become more open but I have no worries of talking with my friends, it is very much even uppityperson Dec 2014 #15
Racist behavior has indeed become more brazen. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #16
Yes, things have gotten much worse. nruthie Dec 2014 #17
Exactly! Rhiannon12866 Dec 2014 #19
I don't see any major changes tbh SweetieD Dec 2014 #20
Do you mean it is more overt or just that it is being noticed more by more white people? uppityperson Dec 2014 #21
I think white people are noticing racism more now. SweetieD Dec 2014 #22
I never thought it was over, this just feels much worse. redstatebluegirl Dec 2014 #23
I didn't realize this kind of widespread racism still existed until 2008. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #25
Fortunately I have not found that to be the case with my African American friends. elleng Dec 2014 #26
After the 60's I thought it was slowly improving. At work I worked with many black people and RKP5637 Dec 2014 #27
Somewhat off topic but as you posted you are a diversity trainer, I thought I may ask and get kelly1mm Dec 2014 #28
It was a typo I didn't correct but.. redstatebluegirl Dec 2014 #39
I supose I was drawn to it as it seemed purposeful in that the 5 times black was used the B kelly1mm Dec 2014 #41
White supremacists are coming out of the woodwork Matrosov Dec 2014 #29
I haven't noticed any changes, except maybe in the opposite direction. JEFF9K Dec 2014 #30
Yes, I have noticed the same thing. n/t Lil Missy Dec 2014 #31
The thing is Obama has been all right and not the "worse than Bush" they expected and they hate it Johonny Dec 2014 #32
Call it majority privalege Skeowes28 Dec 2014 #34
You will get friends back Skeowes28 Dec 2014 #35
It seems to me, in regards to oppressed groups, Shankapotomus Dec 2014 #37
It's open season on mexicans/latinos BubbaFett Dec 2014 #38
Thanks Everyone! redstatebluegirl Dec 2014 #40
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