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Exultant Democracy

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59. Police Unions supported Walker's attack on the other unions

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 05:26 PM

Dec 2014

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Police Unions are the only unions to regularly support Republicans.

Most importantly police unions are used to stop effective over-site of a group that has far too much power to go unchecked.

I support the right to collective bargaining, but only so far as it isn't used and abused to get away not only with murder but a long list of other crimes. The only way we will ever get better police is to get ride of the police unions.

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For those on DU who feel that police "unions" are legitimate and are acting "responsibly" [View all] 99th_Monkey Nov 2014 OP

Roorda , fired from the police force for " making false statements " pkdu Nov 2014 #1

Why hire a documented liar as business manager? Faryn Balyncd Dec 2014 #3

He opposes cameras as well... Ino Dec 2014 #4

Yep. They only get "one angle", not the "whole picture", which you get from the officer's report. Faryn Balyncd Dec 2014 #7

What does he mean by.., ReRe Dec 2014 #16

Apparently a job requirement. He fit the bill perfectly. pkdu Dec 2014 #5

And? LostInAnomie Nov 2014 #2

Roorda is an ass marym625 Dec 2014 #6

Oh sure, and calling it a "myth" is really gonna help. Ass (Roorda, not the OP). nt uppityperson Dec 2014 #8

"Exonerated," my ass. - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #9

Police unions should only concern themselves with pay, benefits, and safety. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #10

I so totally agree with you. 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #11

Part of that includes the image the profession projects Major Nikon Dec 2014 #13

I'd like someone to investigate the SLPOA's "Unionnes" ReRe Dec 2014 #17

This. hifiguy Dec 2014 #43

the police as Mad Max/Road Warrior olddots Dec 2014 #12

Should unions singlemindedly stand up for their members? Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #14

Last I checked, murder is totally a serious crime. n 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #19

True. But Wilson has not been officially charged with any crime (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #20

True, but pretty-much everyone knows Wilson murdered Brown, plain & simple. nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #21

So unions should stand up for their members, Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #24

Correct. HERVEPA Dec 2014 #28

OK, so you are accused of a crime and fired from your job as a result. Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #29

He was fucking exonerated by a clearly corrupt system and prosecutor. HERVEPA Dec 2014 #31

Pretty sure Nye Bevan supported strong union representation Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #32

He also supported unrepresented and the poor and disadvantaged HERVEPA Dec 2014 #35

What you describe 'fired from your job' is what a Union should do. What the police Union said about Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #49

Actually, the polls I've seen suggest the majority of Americans disagree with you. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #56

Neither has Brown. Rex Dec 2014 #63

Members can sue a Union for failure to represent them KinMd Dec 2014 #83

Well...They Serve to Protect, SoapBox Dec 2014 #15

K&R ReRe Dec 2014 #18

Hey now they are not going to protect most people's right to protest or exercise 1st Amendment lunasun Dec 2014 #22

The police unions could be more selective about who they will go to bat for loyalsister Dec 2014 #23

Yes, I think that is what is needed as well 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #25

Just think, if the courts treat police just like us ordinary serfs...maybe we can eventually move Rex Dec 2014 #64

Actually billionaires have been jailed, but in Iceland not here 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #66

I saw that, yeah just meant Wall Street. Rex Dec 2014 #69

roorda.... spanone Dec 2014 #26

Odd how cops can get fired for illegal behavior in one place 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #27

This is what unions do. NCTraveler Dec 2014 #30

+1. Too many DUers are shortsighted on this issue. Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #33

When was the last time you heard of a pollce union 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #34

Shouldn't unions primarily represent their own members? (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #36

Yes, to a point. 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #37

You're 100% pro-union, except for the ones you don't like? Huh? branford Dec 2014 #40

You make a good case. 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #47

You are certainly free to oppose the opinions and activities of any particular union. branford Dec 2014 #50

I guess for every good thing, there is a bad side to it, or someone who abuses it. 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #54

I beg to differ. This is criticism toward members of another Union for expressing their opinion. Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #44

I'm PRO UNION! Well, kind of, depends...ask me tomorrow! snooper2 Dec 2014 #38

Pro-union? Yes. 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #41

You're not pro-Union, you're just pro-liberal union. It reeks of hypocrisy. branford Dec 2014 #45

Well said. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #57

Myth? damnedifIknow Dec 2014 #39

"It'd be a shame if anything should happen to you nice folks all safe in your dome there." Iggo Dec 2014 #42

huh? nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #48

Translating from Cop-squawk to Gangster-lingo. Iggo Dec 2014 #51

Ah, yes. I see. 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #52

I Thought The Tone Was Pretty Threatening Too ProfessorGAC Dec 2014 #84

My dad always said TBF Dec 2014 #46

There is no easy answer to our police problem 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #53

Wow. One union seward is an ass TBF Dec 2014 #61

I support body cams too. So what? Oh, and please refrain from putting words in my mouth. 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #65

You used the phrase "police unions" without qualification - TBF Dec 2014 #68

What no one can explain to me is how making the police minimum wage with no professional standards Starry Messenger Dec 2014 #55

For the same reasons they do it to you guys to generate disillusionment, to reduce the TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #79

I can't tell if you are advocating that or not? Starry Messenger Dec 2014 #80

You know, I'm not sure but I am lean toward yes, break them. Destroy their power TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #81

What do you suppose will be moved in to replace them? Starry Messenger Dec 2014 #82

In the short term, even worse Pinkerton types but that won't hold up as well TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #85

Your scare quotes are ridiculous. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #58

Police Unions supported Walker's attack on the other unions Exultant Democracy Dec 2014 #59

Supporting Democrats is not, cannot, and should not, be a requirement for unionization. branford Dec 2014 #70

Teachers don't get guns. Groups that support republicans shouldn't get our support here. Exultant Democracy Dec 2014 #72

I'm not suggesting that you have to politically support any particular union, branford Dec 2014 #74

Scott Walker and his pet police union would disagree, they gutted the other union's rights Exultant Democracy Dec 2014 #75

That's not exactly what happened. branford Dec 2014 #76

Because that's part of the police "jurisdiction", protecting the status quo..... socialist_n_TN Dec 2014 #73

Your coloring of the unions seems beg a valid and rational alternative. Shall we wait...? LanternWaste Dec 2014 #60

Individuals can say this shit, but inappropriate as a statement by the Union. uppityperson Dec 2014 #62

Why? branford Dec 2014 #71

Unfortunately I am on a device that won't copy paste, but the last part is not in support uppityperson Dec 2014 #77

I'm not really entirely disagreeing with you. branford Dec 2014 #78

I agree with you JonLP24 Dec 2014 #87

Free speech means nothing to this dipsh*t...knr joeybee12 Dec 2014 #67

A police union is focused on police officers JonLP24 Dec 2014 #86