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In reply to the discussion: Pretty Scary Shit - Coming Soon To A Sky Near You [View all]intaglio
(8,170 posts)37. OOOO Skary Droanes! Everybodys panick!
First danger debunk:
The payloads are tiny
Check the size of the drone illustrated, you can do that by looking at the comparative size of the wiring and the camera, it is between 30 and 45 cm across (12 - 18 inches) and that camera is probably close to the maximum payload it can carry. It is black because it is largely uncoloured carbon fibre to reduce weight.
The other drone in the WSJ article looks to have a wingspan of about 1.2 metres (4 foot) and again the camera will be close to it's maximum payload because it will be designed for longer duration flights.
Yes, you can already fit weapons to radio controlled model helicopters (see You Tube) but the flight duration is rubbish, accuracy beyond 20 metres is rubbish and they are noisy because they use those screaming petrol engines
Purposes:
For universities? How about checking pollution incidents, environmental monitoring, traffic flow analysis, wildlife radio tag tracking and probably another 100 uses I cannot imagine.
For the police? Aerial views of car wreck sites, infrared scouting for intruders and lost children, traffic management, tracking criminals to their homes or stashes.
For State and Federal agencies? disaster management, emergency communications in remote areas and following disaster (those are what the very large wingspan, long flight duration varieties are for), pollution monitoring.
All of the above can be accomplished without firing up a very expensive, big, noisy, comparatively non-agile manned helicopter.
Notes
These are not the UAVs used in war zones, they cannot carry the weaponry that makes such UAVs deadly. Such UAVs use Hellfire missiles and, rarely, Gatling style machine guns.
Practising skeet shooting and similar gun fantasies. Sheet move on a predictable course, drones do not. Skeet are less than 20 metres from you, drones are not. Skeet are made of clay, drones are carbon fibre. You know where skeet will come from and know roughly when skeet are to be released, drones not so much. If the Afghans cannot shoot down drones with their vast collection of assorted guns and missiles do you think you will be able to do so?
Although certain States will want to use these to spy into your bedroom (I'm looking at you Kentucky) it is not very likely as [s]most[/s] many legislators might have sexual practises that would, proverbially, make a mink blush.
The payloads are tiny
Check the size of the drone illustrated, you can do that by looking at the comparative size of the wiring and the camera, it is between 30 and 45 cm across (12 - 18 inches) and that camera is probably close to the maximum payload it can carry. It is black because it is largely uncoloured carbon fibre to reduce weight.
The other drone in the WSJ article looks to have a wingspan of about 1.2 metres (4 foot) and again the camera will be close to it's maximum payload because it will be designed for longer duration flights.
Yes, you can already fit weapons to radio controlled model helicopters (see You Tube) but the flight duration is rubbish, accuracy beyond 20 metres is rubbish and they are noisy because they use those screaming petrol engines
Purposes:
For universities? How about checking pollution incidents, environmental monitoring, traffic flow analysis, wildlife radio tag tracking and probably another 100 uses I cannot imagine.
For the police? Aerial views of car wreck sites, infrared scouting for intruders and lost children, traffic management, tracking criminals to their homes or stashes.
For State and Federal agencies? disaster management, emergency communications in remote areas and following disaster (those are what the very large wingspan, long flight duration varieties are for), pollution monitoring.
All of the above can be accomplished without firing up a very expensive, big, noisy, comparatively non-agile manned helicopter.
Notes
These are not the UAVs used in war zones, they cannot carry the weaponry that makes such UAVs deadly. Such UAVs use Hellfire missiles and, rarely, Gatling style machine guns.
Practising skeet shooting and similar gun fantasies. Sheet move on a predictable course, drones do not. Skeet are less than 20 metres from you, drones are not. Skeet are made of clay, drones are carbon fibre. You know where skeet will come from and know roughly when skeet are to be released, drones not so much. If the Afghans cannot shoot down drones with their vast collection of assorted guns and missiles do you think you will be able to do so?
Although certain States will want to use these to spy into your bedroom (I'm looking at you Kentucky) it is not very likely as [s]most[/s] many legislators might have sexual practises that would, proverbially, make a mink blush.
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There was an article on the front page of The Seattle Times this morning about the
gateley
Apr 2012
#1
You know that remote control planes have been around for 50+ years right? There are clubs
stevenleser
Apr 2012
#81
I know -- I think that a lot. I don't want to live long enough to see Soylent Green
gateley
Apr 2012
#67
"What I want to know is WHY dozens Of Universities need Drones!!!??? kpete"
panopeagenerosa
Apr 2012
#3
Engineering schools might want to design, build and test them as part of an engineering program. n/t
PoliticAverse
Apr 2012
#4
''He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither.'' - Benjamin Franklin :-/ n/t
DeSwiss
Apr 2012
#21
I don't hate cops. I hate the fact that our main law enforcement priority
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2012
#88
Small paper kites act like barrage balloons. Helium balloons on long strings look cool too.
alfredo
Apr 2012
#18
Helium balloons with fishing line would make the drones stand off or risk tangling.
alfredo
Apr 2012
#64
They lack range, and a bow and arrow looks like a weapon to the cops, kites, balloons, and frisbees,
alfredo
Apr 2012
#116
"More colleges offering courses in ‘hot’ drone field as students drawn to sky’s-the-limit salaries"
PoliticAverse
Apr 2012
#19
Who is the sucker? Remote control planes have been around for over 50 years
stevenleser
Apr 2012
#90
"infrared scouting for intruders and lost children" .... translation:
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2012
#69
My point is, that's what our tax dollars are doing when they buy these high tech toys.
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2012
#82
I think the technology COULD be put to many of those, very good uses.
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2012
#119
Have you had to up until now? Remote control planes have been around for 50+ years.
stevenleser
Apr 2012
#91
I'm against multi million dollar drones being used to stop cancer patients from curbing nausea w/pot
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2012
#86
Yes. I want to destroy all technology. Perhaps you're heard of me, my name is Ned Ludd.
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2012
#94
The camera doesn't need to be operational to be effective. Look at the aim of torture.
alfredo
Apr 2012
#66
"don't indicate how the aircraft will be used" ... Here's betting It'll have something to do with
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2012
#68
Remote control planes have been around for over 50+ years and you have been able to mount cameras
stevenleser
Apr 2012
#84
And in the 50+ years since Remote Control Aircraft have been around, it has happened, I'm sure nt
stevenleser
Apr 2012
#89
Hacking is one possibility. You have to hack the operator. You can, however, jam the drone itself.
Selatius
Apr 2012
#118
"THEY" won't be happy, until we all hide in our caves, doors bolted, shades drawn ...
99th_Monkey
Apr 2012
#106