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intaglio

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37. OOOO Skary Droanes! Everybodys panick!
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 02:24 AM
Apr 2012
First danger debunk:
The payloads are tiny

Check the size of the drone illustrated, you can do that by looking at the comparative size of the wiring and the camera, it is between 30 and 45 cm across (12 - 18 inches) and that camera is probably close to the maximum payload it can carry. It is black because it is largely uncoloured carbon fibre to reduce weight.

The other drone in the WSJ article looks to have a wingspan of about 1.2 metres (4 foot) and again the camera will be close to it's maximum payload because it will be designed for longer duration flights.

Yes, you can already fit weapons to radio controlled model helicopters (see You Tube) but the flight duration is rubbish, accuracy beyond 20 metres is rubbish and they are noisy because they use those screaming petrol engines

Purposes:
For universities? How about checking pollution incidents, environmental monitoring, traffic flow analysis, wildlife radio tag tracking and probably another 100 uses I cannot imagine.

For the police? Aerial views of car wreck sites, infrared scouting for intruders and lost children, traffic management, tracking criminals to their homes or stashes.

For State and Federal agencies? disaster management, emergency communications in remote areas and following disaster (those are what the very large wingspan, long flight duration varieties are for), pollution monitoring.

All of the above can be accomplished without firing up a very expensive, big, noisy, comparatively non-agile manned helicopter.

Notes
These are not the UAVs used in war zones, they cannot carry the weaponry that makes such UAVs deadly. Such UAVs use Hellfire missiles and, rarely, Gatling style machine guns.

Practising skeet shooting and similar gun fantasies. Sheet move on a predictable course, drones do not. Skeet are less than 20 metres from you, drones are not. Skeet are made of clay, drones are carbon fibre. You know where skeet will come from and know roughly when skeet are to be released, drones not so much. If the Afghans cannot shoot down drones with their vast collection of assorted guns and missiles do you think you will be able to do so?

Although certain States will want to use these to spy into your bedroom (I'm looking at you Kentucky) it is not very likely as [s]most[/s] many legislators might have sexual practises that would, proverbially, make a mink blush.
There was an article on the front page of The Seattle Times this morning about the gateley Apr 2012 #1
this whole world has been debased since bush/cheney. I'm glad I'm old. roguevalley Apr 2012 #28
And conversely... CoffeeCat Apr 2012 #32
we are living in the free world and onethatcares Apr 2012 #48
You know that remote control planes have been around for 50+ years right? There are clubs stevenleser Apr 2012 #81
I hear you. my babies too. roguevalley Apr 2012 #121
I know -- I think that a lot. I don't want to live long enough to see Soylent Green gateley Apr 2012 #67
Black helicopters! TomClash Apr 2012 #2
As you point out, there's no OTHER reason to paint them black saras Apr 2012 #15
+1 Scuba Apr 2012 #72
"What I want to know is WHY dozens Of Universities need Drones!!!??? kpete" panopeagenerosa Apr 2012 #3
Or busting protestors... EmeraldCityGrl Apr 2012 #22
Universities will be busting what part of protesters? nt stevenleser Apr 2012 #80
"Busting frat parties" DUzy!!! Odin2005 Apr 2012 #58
POT SMOKER IN DORM ROOM 28B! Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #87
Not to mention voyeurism of Univ. Security staff 99th_Monkey Apr 2012 #109
Engineering schools might want to design, build and test them as part of an engineering program. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2012 #4
Yes. But those in the Inner Party get to switch them off.... Junkdrawer Apr 2012 #5
The University of North Dakota has a whole department The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2012 #6
Aren't there missile silos by there as well as a lot of military? glinda Apr 2012 #10
The missile silos are gone now - they closed them The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2012 #11
Those are great goals, but at what cost? dotymed Apr 2012 #115
But the feds won't allow TacoCopter targetpractice Apr 2012 #7
Too much chance for domestic terrorism, I guess. Buns_of_Fire Apr 2012 #38
LIVE tacos?? Oh, the humanity! Beartracks Apr 2012 #112
Public money to pay for drones? Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #8
They don't know what else to do with military equipment they midnight Apr 2012 #9
Big Brother is watching you lovuian Apr 2012 #12
I will give you two uses you have not thought off nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #13
I am wondering whether they could be used for crop dusting. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2012 #17
Yes nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #34
Seems like a handy tool to have... and-justice-for-all Apr 2012 #14
''He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither.'' - Benjamin Franklin :-/ n/t DeSwiss Apr 2012 #21
It has nothing to do with hating cops. blackspade Apr 2012 #25
While I can see UAVs in rescue, disaster Et al nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #35
I don't hate cops. I hate the fact that our main law enforcement priority Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #88
Holy shit! That thing looks like a spider. caseymoz Apr 2012 #16
Small paper kites act like barrage balloons. Helium balloons on long strings look cool too. alfredo Apr 2012 #18
We need some kentauros Apr 2012 #44
Helium balloons with fishing line would make the drones stand off or risk tangling. alfredo Apr 2012 #64
The arrow would fall to ground with the potential of hurting someone. alfredo Apr 2012 #65
Unless it was a suction cup arrow! n/t n2doc Apr 2012 #98
They lack range, and a bow and arrow looks like a weapon to the cops, kites, balloons, and frisbees, alfredo Apr 2012 #116
"More colleges offering courses in ‘hot’ drone field as students drawn to sky’s-the-limit salaries" PoliticAverse Apr 2012 #19
K&R DeSwiss Apr 2012 #20
+1 Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #51
Woah! tavalon Apr 2012 #23
Ha ha ha!!! Great minds think alike..... Pachamama Apr 2012 #39
+1 Richard D Apr 2012 #52
Pull!! guitar man Apr 2012 #71
Time for trebuchets! LiberalEsto Apr 2012 #75
I wonder how effective a Dove load would be on them? OffWithTheirHeads Apr 2012 #24
I'm wondering if they could be rendered Ilsa Apr 2012 #26
How about kentauros Apr 2012 #45
That black central top piece reminds me of the helmets on Ilsa Apr 2012 #27
can't people with guns just shoot them down? Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #29
Almost no city allows guns to be discharged outside. former9thward Apr 2012 #61
You know what those things would be really good for? Deep13 Apr 2012 #30
If we see one, . . . aggiesal Apr 2012 #31
It depends FrodosPet Apr 2012 #102
What about PIZZA DELIVERY DRONES? Speck Tater Apr 2012 #33
controversy marshall gaines Apr 2012 #36
OOOO Skary Droanes! Everybodys panick! intaglio Apr 2012 #37
ROFLMFAO... SomethingFishy Apr 2012 #55
Well, at least I am not regurgitating silly conspiracy theories intaglio Apr 2012 #73
Who is the sucker? Remote control planes have been around for over 50 years stevenleser Apr 2012 #90
"infrared scouting for intruders and lost children" .... translation: Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #69
That is already done, because the infrared signature of hemp is very specific intaglio Apr 2012 #74
My point is, that's what our tax dollars are doing when they buy these high tech toys. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #82
It is not nonsense. intaglio Apr 2012 #117
I think the technology COULD be put to many of those, very good uses. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #119
Fair comment intaglio Apr 2012 #120
Are we all going to need to carry personal laser counter measures? JCMach1 Apr 2012 #40
No, just a Super Soaker filled with kentauros Apr 2012 #47
Have you had to up until now? Remote control planes have been around for 50+ years. stevenleser Apr 2012 #91
Who knew? Rob Halford (of Judas Priest) was a prophet JCMach1 Apr 2012 #41
Man it's been a few years since I heard that! raouldukelives Apr 2012 #54
Hah, I was just playing that song in Rock Band yesterday. Jester Messiah Apr 2012 #108
Just lookup Quadrocopter and watch them in action. -- order them now online unc70 Apr 2012 #42
10 days upi402 Apr 2012 #43
Paging Janet Reno... slackmaster Apr 2012 #46
Skynet. HopeHoops Apr 2012 #49
This was inevitable lunatica Apr 2012 #50
LAPD is always buzzing LA, shining its lights on us Liberal_in_LA Apr 2012 #53
How is that not terrorism? EFerrari Apr 2012 #56
So do these clubs need to be made illegal and shut down? stevenleser Apr 2012 #93
Flame me, but I see no problem with this. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #57
The problem is... BiggJawn Apr 2012 #59
I'm against multi million dollar drones being used to stop cancer patients from curbing nausea w/pot Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #86
The same can be said for ANY technology. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #92
Yes. I want to destroy all technology. Perhaps you're heard of me, my name is Ned Ludd. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #94
I AM FOR LEGALIZING POT, OK??? Odin2005 Apr 2012 #96
I'm not arguing with you. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #100
why is it cities and states have no money to pay people Johonny Apr 2012 #60
Well....at least we don't have to worry about anarchy any more.... Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2012 #62
A line from Orwell's 1984 ThoughtCriminal Apr 2012 #63
The camera doesn't need to be operational to be effective. Look at the aim of torture. alfredo Apr 2012 #66
"don't indicate how the aircraft will be used" ... Here's betting It'll have something to do with Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #68
Of course no indication about how the aircraft will be used intaglio Apr 2012 #76
How about we fucking LEGALIZE, REGULATE, and TAX it Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #83
*BOOM* "Honest, I thought it was a duck!" MadHound Apr 2012 #70
Damn... The Empire Is Really Humming Along... Soon... WillyT Apr 2012 #77
Hm, and any permits to news organizations to use them for reporting? Hm? HMM? nilram Apr 2012 #78
Hmmmm... Canuckistanian Apr 2012 #79
Ruger 10/22 westerebus Apr 2012 #103
Remote control planes have been around for over 50+ years and you have been able to mount cameras stevenleser Apr 2012 #84
Paranoid thoughts of being watched are a sign of schizotypal tendencies. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #95
The Fun thing is Pharaoh Apr 2012 #85
And in the 50+ years since Remote Control Aircraft have been around, it has happened, I'm sure nt stevenleser Apr 2012 #89
Yes, because shooting down a university's reaseach drone is so Progressive! Odin2005 Apr 2012 #97
We need some equivalent of a "TV off" remote for these things n2doc Apr 2012 #99
Those damned things better have propeller guards. sofa king Apr 2012 #101
I wonder if we'll see an increase Ilsa Apr 2012 #104
Any old gun would do 99th_Monkey Apr 2012 #107
I recommend a shotgun, for versatility. Jester Messiah Apr 2012 #110
+1 99th_Monkey Apr 2012 #113
The VN war protests and the recent 420 effort comes to my mind stupidicus Apr 2012 #105
How long until someone figures a way to hack 'em? Jester Messiah Apr 2012 #111
lol stupidicus Apr 2012 #114
Hacking is one possibility. You have to hack the operator. You can, however, jam the drone itself. Selatius Apr 2012 #118
"THEY" won't be happy, until we all hide in our caves, doors bolted, shades drawn ... 99th_Monkey Apr 2012 #106
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