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9. exactly, KoKo...here's another account
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 02:18 PM
Dec 2014

..from @emptywheel (Marcy Wheeler)

The Debate about Torture We’re Not Having: Exploitation
Published December 8, 2014

As the Senate Armed Services Committee Report on torture (released over 5 years ago, in far less redacted form than tomorrow’s summary will be) makes clear, the Bush regime embraced torture not for “intelligence” but for “exploitation.” In December 2001, when DOD first started searching for what would become torture, it was explicitly looking for “exploitation.”

As Administration lawyers began to reconsider U.S. adherence to the Geneva Conventions, the DoD Office of the General Counsel also began seeking information on detention and interrogation. In December 2001, the DoD General Counsel’s office contacted the Joint Personnel Recovery Agency (JPRA), headquartered at Fort Belvoir, Virginia, for information about detainee “exploitation.

And as a footnote explaining that reference makes clear, “interrogation is only one part of the exploitation process.”



Some other things exploitation is used for — indeed the very things the torture we reverse-engineered for our own torture program was used for — are to help recruit double agents and to produce propaganda.

And we have every reason to believe those were among the things all incarnations of our torture were used for. We tortured in Abu Ghraib because we had no sources in the Iraqi resistance and for some reason we believed sexually humiliating men would shame them into turning narcs for the US.

read more: https://www.emptywheel.net/2014/12/08/the-debate-about-torture-were-not-having-exploitation/


related:

Some torture facts.

https://www.emptywheel.net/2014/12/08/some-torture-facts/

The sewer of morality. What they have made of YOUR country. OUR country. woo me with science Dec 2014 #1
They ruined this nation! Ruined! Enthusiast Dec 2014 #12
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kick. This is important. woo me with science Dec 2014 #4
It was not propaganda, let's call it what is, Bortman33 Dec 2014 #11
Call it what it is Skrups Dec 2014 #33
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Great post, DeSwiss!! n/t Duval Dec 2014 #15
Visual Images from DeSwiss Speak for Themselves......Powerful! KoKo Dec 2014 #25
"Ticking Time Bomb Scenario" ??? That's so 'Murrican..... Mustellus Dec 2014 #7
K & R but the media did pick up on this mountain grammy Dec 2014 #8
exactly, KoKo...here's another account bigtree Dec 2014 #9
Empty Wheel's list.. KoKo Dec 2014 #18
PDF link needs update. proverbialwisdom Dec 2014 #10
anti American and The Wizard Dec 2014 #13
Link to the full 263-page Armed Services Committee Report here: KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #14
Thanks..! KoKo Dec 2014 #27
I've been saying this for years. They tortured cab drivers to get them to say Iraq did 9/11. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #16
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Torture in a copycat league. Ed Suspicious Dec 2014 #32
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and a big K & R! n/t wildbilln864 Dec 2014 #35
Impression is the greatest form of flattery. nt raouldukelives Dec 2014 #36
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