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Showing Original Post only (View all)Would You Trust a Democrat Who Voted Republican During the Civil Rights and Nixon Era? [View all]
This is a serious question. A whole lot of folks here are hyping a current Democrat who is on the record as having voted Republican up until the last two decades, because she favored GOP "economic" policies.
For all those quaking on the right at the sight of an ascendant Warren, rest easy. Warrens no lefty. In fact, Warren was a registered Republican into her 40s. When it comes to ideology, Warren makes for a rotten heir to Kennedy.
I was a Republican because I thought that those were the people who best supported markets. I think that is not true anymore, Warren says. I was a Republican at a time when I felt like there was a problem that the markets were under a lot more strain. It worried me whether or not the government played too activist a role.
Did she vote for Ronald Reagan, who ushered in much of the financial deregulation which Warren has devoted her life to stopping? Im not going to talk about who I voted for, she says.
It wasnt until later in life, when Warren was 46, that she had her political awakening. At the time, she was serving on a committee recommending changes to the nations bankruptcy laws. Until then, Warren says, I said, No, no, no, not for me on the politics.'
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/24/elizabeth-warren-i-created-occupy-wall-street.html
Which GOP economic policies did the young Warren think were best for America? The ones that wanted to deny Medicare to the elderly? The ones that wanted to deny Blacks the vote? Or equal access to public accommodations? The ones that wanted to fund right wing coups in other countries (Nixon/Kissinger)? How about wars for oil (Vietnam)? The ones that tried to destroy labor unions? The ones that painted union leaders as "red"? We are are talking about "voting for Republican economic policies" during the LBJ administration and Nixon's administration and (more than likely) Jimmy Carter's and Ronald Reagan's. This is someone who thought that Dick Nixon was good for the well-being of the country. This is someone who could not see what was wrong with Reagan/Bush until the 1990's. That is a very slow learning curve. I don't know about you, but I want someone a little bit quicker on the uptake than that in charge of things. I want someone who understood in her youth that if equal justice is denied to others of different race, religion and ethnicity that a economic injustice is also being done.
Anyone who thinks that you can separate "social" from "economic" is kidding himself. Or herself. Years ago, in 1978 to be precise, a college history teacher announced that he was now an economic conservative though he was still a social liberal. I almost gagged. What he was really saying was "Some of my best friends are Black, but I want all that straight white male privilege that my father and my grandfather had. So, I'll just pretend not to notice that I get more than my fair share, because some other white guy has his boot heel square on the neck of some not so white guy." That kind of crazy "I'm a good person, really I am, but I don't want to waste my money helping other (Black) people's kids" is the kind of messed up thinking that got us Reagan/Bush.
You can not have social justice without economic justice. And you can not have economic justice without social justice. While I admire Sen. Warren's clear sightedness when it comes to the dangers of Wall Street's sleight of hand, there are plenty of right leaning capitalists out there who share her concerns. And they employ women for a fraction of what they pay men and they exploit migrant labor and they try to keep out unions in order to keep wages low and their profits high. That is old style Republican economic values.
Here is my litmus test for president. It's 1972. Who did you vote for? Who did you campaign for? If you say "Nixon, because I liked his economic policies" then there is no way I want you representing me in the White House. Anyone who knew the least little thing about politics knew that Dick Nixon was trouble. Anyone who voted for him anyway has got serious moral flaws---the kind that would allow him or her to say "Hey, the illegal incursion into Cambodia is not so bad. As long as the Stock Market stays solid."
Sen. Warren, will you please tell us what you thought when you watched Dick Nixon tell us about Cambodia? Did you gnash your teeth? Did you swear aloud? Did your heart break? Did you get out there and do something about it? If not, then do not attempt to run as a Democrat for president. Democrats need heart.
Seriously guys, if you really hate Hillary that much, why not attempt to draft Julian Castro? Now there is a Democrat that I could support at the top or the bottom of the ticket---a real Democrat.
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Would You Trust a Democrat Who Voted Republican During the Civil Rights and Nixon Era? [View all]
McCamy Taylor
Dec 2014
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If the only viable alternative is someone who has "merely" behaved like a Republican
True Blue Door
Dec 2014
#1
Most likely. People change. Thoughts change. Attitudes change. I've even grown softer...
BlueJazz
Dec 2014
#2
If I could roll the odometer back, I'd vote for a Pete McClosky in a New York minute
Brother Buzz
Dec 2014
#3
Goldwater ran in 1964, Hillary registered to vote in 1968, she voted for Hubert Humphrey in 1968.
Thinkingabout
Dec 2014
#18
Hillary worked for the Rockefeller campaign at the Repulican National Convention in 1968.
ieoeja
Dec 2014
#64
There were plenty of Southern Democrats who supported Civil Rights and were liberal
csziggy
Dec 2014
#15
Yes it was -- but when he signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 into law . . .
markpkessinger
Dec 2014
#65
If Bill is bad for signing bills which was veto proof then Warren does not get a pass on being
Thinkingabout
Dec 2014
#20
If they were 'veto proof', then why the Hell did he need to sign them?
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Dec 2014
#44
Maybe he did not have to sign the bills, now back to Warren still supporting the
Thinkingabout
Dec 2014
#51
She voted for Reagan/Bush the second time with 5,000 Americans dead from AIDS and not a word
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2014
#24
Show me her record of oppposing the policies of her Party, Nixon through Bush.
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2014
#90
The parties were not as polarized during the Civil Rights and Nixon eras.
Agnosticsherbet
Dec 2014
#30
Yes. In my lifetime, I've never seen anyone be more of a Democrat than this~
RiverLover
Dec 2014
#33
In 1948 he campaigned for Harry Truman, and also for Hubert Humphrey in his first senate race.
StevieM
Dec 2014
#78
I like Warren. I also like Hillary. And I like Obama. I think the party has some great leaders.
StevieM
Dec 2014
#80
Think about the standard you're setting here, Obama has said nicer things about Republicans
CreekDog
Dec 2014
#43
Far less vexing than a candidate that supports corporate dominance, "free trade", and
TheKentuckian
Dec 2014
#55
And if I ask you about how and why you changed, do you get insulted and defensive?
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2014
#92
If Hillary is the presidential candidate I will vote for Julian Castro then.
Katashi_itto
Dec 2014
#84
What former president are you talking about? I can't think of one who was in the Klan, unless you
StevieM
Dec 2014
#94
A whole lot of other folks here are hyping a current Democrat who is on the record as
KamaAina
Dec 2014
#95