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Feral Child

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101. Then I apologize for my assumption.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 07:46 AM
Dec 2014

As to your suggested strategy, it's the way things have always been done and it"s completely ineffective.

The piecemeal strategy you suggest, as demonstrably proved by the Ferguson/Brown case, gives policemen the opportunity to escape any penalty for murder. It's absolutely clear that the prosecutor in that case prepared a special package of materiel to present before the Grand Jury virtually ensuring a No True Bill outcome.

If this was an isolated incident, your caveat that there is no cohesive organization known as "The Police" might be accurate, but the same conditions; the same militarization, the same racism, the same profiling, the same evasion of responsibility, the same perjuries, and the same atrocities are so widespread and consistent in virtually every law enforcement department through-out the country that they may realistically be viewed collectively as one entity..

Heretofore, a by-case approach has allowed the prevailing attitude of invincibility to permeate the collective departments.

Returning to the Wilson/Brown case as an example it's clear that Wilson's entire shift, his entire department, the assisting officers from St. Louis County P.D. and the Prosecuting Attorney's office all colluded to ensure Wilson escaped charges for his conduct. They are all guilty, under Missouri state statute, of Accessory to Murder After the Fact. Yet all efforts so far and for the foreseeable future have been entirely futile. The stone wall of police corruption stands.

You say we need to consider the over half a million officers in this country individually, but I say, the people say, that all these officers bear responsibility, for malfeasance if naught else, for protecting the corrupt officers. In fact, since they have failed, time and again, to purge the ranks of the corrupt individuals, they are all guilty of violating the Oath of Office.

Thus, a comprehensive program demanding justice at every level of government, non-violently attacking "The Police" as an entity, is the only viable strategy for establishing government mandates of independent civilian oversight of all police officers everywhere. Only with such mechanisms in place can we reasonably achieve any control over rogue officers. We need to act in a collective, nationwide movement to demand the overhaul of command structures, establish control procedures such as body-cams, civilian revue boards and a federal investigation agency and develop any other tools necessary to reign in every department nationwide.

Of course, existing tools for investigating individual crimes by police agents should remain in place, but until we demand a nationwide standard of control, these individual investigations will continue to be perverted by local corruption and the alienation of the police from the body civil will continue until we have but two choices, subjugation or self-defense.

No one is denying the need to be outraged. randome Dec 2014 #1
Completely disagree marym625 Dec 2014 #2
I think blame should be better targeted. randome Dec 2014 #3
If I knew the names of every police officer marym625 Dec 2014 #4
Case in point. Feral Child Dec 2014 #5
Well said! n/t marym625 Dec 2014 #13
Thanks! Feral Child Dec 2014 #63
Thanks for this post LeftOfWest Dec 2014 #18
Thanks for both comments. Feral Child Dec 2014 #62
I was never a cop. No idea where you got that from. randome Dec 2014 #65
Oh, perhaps I'm mistaken. Feral Child Dec 2014 #66
It most definitely was not me. randome Dec 2014 #76
Then I apologize for my assumption. Feral Child Dec 2014 #101
AMEN, nt Ligyron Dec 2014 #102
It's been an hour and forty minutes Feral Child Dec 2014 #70
Hey, it's Christmas. I'm busy. See my response above. randome Dec 2014 #77
How is that more productive marym625 Dec 2014 #92
What is that saying about All it takes for Evil to grow is for good men to do nothing. Bandit Dec 2014 #7
It's Edmund Burke marym625 Dec 2014 #10
How many of them have spoken out against the criminals among them? I know of one, sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #24
I named the only one I was positive about marym625 Dec 2014 #32
I included the Police Chief in the three I was thinking of. Here is a link to the sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #36
wow. that's some serious shit marym625 Dec 2014 #38
I'm sorry about your dad, that would indeed keep you from sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #39
I'm sure nothing happened to the corrupt cops marym625 Dec 2014 #42
The culture is corrupt from sea to shining sea. The desire to individualize at all times is a tactic TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #51
That would be all well and good if the people we were talking about SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #69
There's no dispute that we have a problem. randome Dec 2014 #79
You absolutely correct Mary. 99Forever Dec 2014 #6
Thank you, 99Forever marym625 Dec 2014 #11
So you believe in collective punishment? NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #8
It has nothing to do with collective punishment. Jappleseed Dec 2014 #9
Did I say they should all be punished? marym625 Dec 2014 #12
I continue to post in these threads... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #14
And.... marym625 Dec 2014 #15
And... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #19
I will accept that marym625 Dec 2014 #20
Nothing wrong with a good pun. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #22
I am saying there are marym625 Dec 2014 #37
I forgot to say thank you marym625 Dec 2014 #40
We disagree on a lot of things, Mary... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #72
Thank you marym625 Dec 2014 #80
That's like saying the German people who saw what was going on in Nazi justiceischeap Dec 2014 #27
Nazi Germany marym625 Dec 2014 #33
So What Have You RobinA Dec 2014 #67
I really resent replies like this marym625 Dec 2014 #75
95% ?!?!? A HERETIC I AM Dec 2014 #58
Challenging that "probably 95%" statement... Ino Dec 2014 #73
I continue to ask why are GOOD cops silent if they are so GOOD? rbrnmw Dec 2014 #16
Amen to that! marym625 Dec 2014 #17
You do know that police officers who are prosecuted for crimes... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #21
recently very quiet they have been whining about how disrespected they are rbrnmw Dec 2014 #23
A bunch of white cops in Cleveland marym625 Dec 2014 #34
Fail... Ino Dec 2014 #74
Why are good Christians silent as the fundies take over the GOP and distort the religion? They are Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #29
Like the Muslims, they probably are not silent treestar Dec 2014 #54
You haven't challanged anything. You've complained. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #31
You did imply that because some cops are bad, that others have some duty treestar Dec 2014 #53
Bull marym625 Dec 2014 #57
Bravo. Ino Dec 2014 #82
and by the way marym625 Dec 2014 #60
Where are they? As I said above, I know of three so far. All of them have been villified sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #25
Sabrina, I don't think I've ever asked anyone to be silent about the bad ones. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #26
Sorry if I misunderstood you then. I know there are good cops, but they do not have sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #28
But I noticed you didn't say anything about being "sick" of police violence......... socialist_n_TN Dec 2014 #45
about as stupid as saying you're all for killing unarmed people Skittles Dec 2014 #30
What? marym625 Dec 2014 #35
some DUers have been accused of supporting the deaths of unarmed folk Skittles Dec 2014 #41
What? marym625 Dec 2014 #43
yup Skittles Dec 2014 #47
I couldn't be more confused marym625 Dec 2014 #48
I can think of a few reasons why some would never say anything negative about cops. Rex Dec 2014 #44
What indifference to which victims? marym625 Dec 2014 #49
When I wonder why there isn't more outrage on this and other problems, sometimes LiberalElite Dec 2014 #46
Love Margaret Mead marym625 Dec 2014 #50
It is not a liberal value to hold people responsible for the actions of others treestar Dec 2014 #52
seems you're expanding on my post and putting words in my mouth marym625 Dec 2014 #55
there might be treestar Dec 2014 #71
I don't know what you think a liberal is marym625 Dec 2014 #78
Within the big picture of all problems we are facing ... JEFF9K Dec 2014 #56
Pretty high up there marym625 Dec 2014 #59
It ranks FAR below overpopulation and the myriad problems associated with that. 20score Dec 2014 #61
Bad police practices need to be addressed ... JEFF9K Dec 2014 #64
This is a second civil rights movement. And it's very important. 20score Dec 2014 #68
Recent events involve less than 30 people. JEFF9K Dec 2014 #81
wow marym625 Dec 2014 #84
Ever hear of "reality?" JEFF9K Dec 2014 #85
Yes. You should try it sometime. marym625 Dec 2014 #87
I'm in it. JEFF9K Dec 2014 #90
No, not so much. marym625 Dec 2014 #91
That shows some serious misunderstanding of the 20score Dec 2014 #89
If you changed "police" to "Muslims" yoiur post would be right at home on Free Republic Lee-Lee Dec 2014 #83
yes. being a cop is exactly the same as being Muslim marym625 Dec 2014 #86
What you just wrote is insulting to the victims, 20score Dec 2014 #88
Nah, I don't see that at all. Cha Dec 2014 #97
Actually, this is more what we need to change the dialogue to: Initech Dec 2014 #93
We definitely need to include that in the conversation marym625 Dec 2014 #94
So does ALEC, they're just as dangerous as the NRA. Initech Dec 2014 #95
I think even more so marym625 Dec 2014 #98
There would be such progress if the Police Depts across our country recognized that illegal gun Cha Dec 2014 #96
Thank you, Cha marym625 Dec 2014 #99
I know what you mean about the fact that Chris Magnus is Gay and he and his Cha Dec 2014 #100
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