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In reply to the discussion: NYT to NYPD: 1. Don’t violate the Constitution. 2. Don’t kill unarmed people. 3. Do your jobs. [View all]tblue37
(65,340 posts)22. Some comments on the editorial are excellent--like this one:
MikeJersey City, NJ
In our society, it's perfectly acceptable and in fact, to be taken seriously rather than as some New Deal relic, you almost have to do it to demonize any other class of civil servants: public school teachers, social workers, postal employees, you name it. Pundits and voters alike scream and cry that their unions are out of control and serve only to protect incompetence.
But when the police unions stand up for bad cops and demand that their members renege on their obligation to the public in favor of loyalty to their least worthy colleagues, the very same people who stand up and cheer for the Scott Walkers of the world, stand up and cheer again for the one type of public sector union that really does all the things they complain about.
In our society, it's perfectly acceptable and in fact, to be taken seriously rather than as some New Deal relic, you almost have to do it to demonize any other class of civil servants: public school teachers, social workers, postal employees, you name it. Pundits and voters alike scream and cry that their unions are out of control and serve only to protect incompetence.
But when the police unions stand up for bad cops and demand that their members renege on their obligation to the public in favor of loyalty to their least worthy colleagues, the very same people who stand up and cheer for the Scott Walkers of the world, stand up and cheer again for the one type of public sector union that really does all the things they complain about.
ON EDIT: Here's another comment that shows that the NYPD are shooting themselves in the foot with their tantrums:
Judy from Fairfax VAVirginia
I am a liberal, and an old woman. I am also the niece of one of New York City's finish. I never, ever, in my worst nightmare expected to have to write this: bust the Union.
I am a liberal, and an old woman. I am also the niece of one of New York City's finish. I never, ever, in my worst nightmare expected to have to write this: bust the Union.
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NYT to NYPD: 1. Don’t violate the Constitution. 2. Don’t kill unarmed people. 3. Do your jobs. [View all]
kpete
Dec 2014
OP
Ah, I got you. I thought that was something of an urban legend, i.e., that cops were required to
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2014
#6
If "TAX THE RICH!" still doesn't have enough of a constituency, then certainly
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2014
#48
Well, that too, but that has come to mean all widebody aircraft over the years.
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2014
#58
Should their poor actions be supported? Should they be allowed to do what they want without
uppityperson
Dec 2014
#64
I think that the behavior of Lynch, some cops at the funeral, and in general lately have proven
Renew Deal
Dec 2014
#3
Some in the NYPD think that they can't do #3 unless they can do #2 and #1 would still apply
4lbs
Dec 2014
#16
If the point were to avoid taxes, people could sell packs of cigarettes from Indian reservations,
JDPriestly
Dec 2014
#39
But is the risk that is taken in buying cigarettes in Missouri, importing and transporting them to
JDPriestly
Dec 2014
#62
They ARE doing their jobs, which is being the enforcers for the Capitalist Class.
Odin2005
Dec 2014
#19
I personally hope the gallant and brave police officers continue with brave their attitude
LiberalArkie
Dec 2014
#20