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rjsquirrel

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8. Debatable at best

Reply to branford (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 1, 2015, 06:12 PM

Jan 2015

So-called "broken windows" policing has been critically studied and many studies question the conventional (conservative) wisdom that it solved NYC's crime problem. It's folklore as much as fact. Nationslly rates of violent crime fell sharply in most U.S. cities beginning well before Bratton and Mayor 9/11 tried to take credit for it. Demographic explanations are much more powerfully measurable.

So it's mostly bullshit that arresting people for petty shit has any relation to violent crime rates.

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Matt Taibbi: The NYPD's 'Work Stoppage' Is Surreal [View all] kpete Dec 2014 OP

I think the work stoppage is fantastic bluestateguy Dec 2014 #1

Never forget that the focus on the "petty stuff" branford Dec 2014 #3

Debatable at best rjsquirrel Jan 2015 #8

The relevant point is that "broken windows" policing branford Jan 2015 #9

I'm not confusing anything rjsquirrel Jan 2015 #10

Again, I'm not discussing which policing policies are best. branford Jan 2015 #11

I get it and that's totally cynical rjsquirrel Jan 2015 #15

Perception matters. branford Jan 2015 #16

revenue gotten by overloading black and brown w fines. yeah whites like it Liberal_in_LA Jan 2015 #12

article published yesterday about "broken windows" Liberal_in_LA Jan 2015 #13

As I indicated in detail in my response to the other poster, my point was not to defend branford Jan 2015 #14

K&R~ babylonsister Dec 2014 #2

"backdoor taxes because politicians are too cowardly to raise them" moondust Jan 2015 #4

Fire the whole force AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #5

k&r... spanone Jan 2015 #6

Taibbi probably knows this, but of course they didn't use it to shine a light phantom power Jan 2015 #7