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In reply to the discussion: For all the cheerleaders who thought overthrowing Qaddafi was such a great idea [View all]polly7
(20,582 posts)41. +1,000,000,000 and a lot of old, good information:
Last edited Fri Jan 9, 2015, 03:00 PM - Edit history (5)
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/polly7/6The Untold Story in Libya
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No Evidence? No Problem!!
Exposed: The "Humanitarian" War In Libya
Must Watch Video
How the CIA Used "Libyan Expatriates" To Engineer Consent For Regime Change
One of the main sources for the claim that Qaddafi was killing his own people is the Libyan League for Human Rights (LLHR), an organization linked to the International Federation of Human Rights (FIDH). On Feb. 21, 2011, LLHR General Secretary Dr. Sliman Bouchuiguir initiated a petition in collaboration with the organization U.N. Watch and the National Endowment for Democracy. This petition was signed by more than 70 NGOs.
Then a few days later, on Feb. 25, Dr. Bouchuiguir went to the U.N. Human Rights Council in order to expose the allegations concerning the crimes of Qaddafis government. In July 2011 we went to Geneva to interview Dr. Sliman Bouchuiguir.
These videos were linked to in mainer's thread and others way back in 2011. Very revealing and showing just how easy it was - "How to circumvent international law and justice 101." - originally published by http://laguerrehumanitaire.fr
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29428.htm
Would anyone here know how to access this in the archives ..... it was an amazing thread by mainer on Sun Oct-23-11 called "My experience in Libya", followed by hundreds of articles and links showing what a sham/horror this all was. Would be greatly appreciated.
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For all the cheerleaders who thought overthrowing Qaddafi was such a great idea [View all]
eridani
Jan 2015
OP
Utter chaos and dissolution of any national identity was always a part of the plan for Iraq, Libya,
kelliekat44
Jan 2015
#1
You aren't a troll but your attempt to drag Iraq into the argument is a FAIL.
KittyWampus
Jan 2015
#79
The Republicans were playing their part in the game, that's all. Most of them
sabrina 1
Jan 2015
#110
There was no 'air massacre of his own people' by khaddafi. that's the right wing
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#97
He said that he would do that -- should we have waited until it actually happened?
karynnj
Jan 2015
#126
I would love to believe you, but I read the accounts of what we were doing while they happened
karynnj
Jan 2015
#86
The supposed 'massacre' was a response to interference by foreign powers and rebels.
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#102
Qaddafi threatened to kill everyone in the city "like rats" before ANY foreign power intervened
karynnj
Jan 2015
#122
US generals planned to kill citizens in the streets as an anti-ussr measure. They can do
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#133
got a little list, have you? i noted a few things about you too, but i can't say them.
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#143
I blocked your mail. If you have a question, feel free to ask it publicly.
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#101
That's what we were told. A whole lot of people, around the world, knew better.
sabrina 1
Jan 2015
#103
Not for a national government but many want our government to act as a liberal individual might act
pampango
Jan 2015
#121
what we might want is irrelevant. our government doesn't do what we want for the
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#148
"Morality doesn't have a goddamn thing to do with any of it ..." It should. That's my point.
pampango
Jan 2015
#153
Potentially admirable is not a core foreign policy driver I have the slightest interest in.
TheKentuckian
Jan 2015
#38
Rwanda is often used as the counter example of where "we" could have intervened
karynnj
Jan 2015
#82
Because if we don't no one else will? It's about time others stepped up to the plate...
L0oniX
Jan 2015
#96
So if 2% want overthrow and 98% don't or are apathetic, that's a popular uprising?
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#109
Libya was already independent. When it comes to insurrection it depends on your point of view
CJCRANE
Jan 2015
#46
With dictators controlling large, modern armies I am not sure that the definition of "popular" that
pampango
Jan 2015
#30
Liberals should not give dictators a pass as long as his army and security forces remain loyal.
pampango
Jan 2015
#67
and the west props them all up, and has for a long time. authoritarian governments
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#146
The US propped up Latin American dictatorships for more than a century. And the
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#155
A No Fly Zone would not be warranted against a dictator on the basis of large crowds demonstrating
pampango
Jan 2015
#77
"These countries were targeted for war" and long ago and we knew it. PNAC, PNAC.
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#112
Hawaii didn't become a state until the 50s either. Not sure what your point is.
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#120
Nothing ever works right unless the people that live in a given area do it
The2ndWheel
Jan 2015
#130
we loved AQ then, and in Syria (heck, Israel's upping its support for Nusra), but only south of the
MisterP
Jan 2015
#136
Disastrous, huge mistake but keep angering people..it works out so well our foreign policy. n/t
Jefferson23
Jan 2015
#139