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CJCRANE

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8. He's just joined the "but-brigade"...

Thu Jan 15, 2015, 03:19 PM

Jan 2015

“You can dislike Charlie Hebdo,” Rushdie concluded,
“because not all their drawings are funny.
But the fact that you dislike them has nothing to do with their right to speak.”

That's pretty much what I said, but the other way round. They can say what they like but I don't like some of their cartoons. Or maybe it was the same way round. I don't like some of their cartoons but they have a right to say what they like.

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Salman Rushdie: “The moment somebody says, ‘I believe in free speech, BUT,’ I stop listening” [View all] kpete Jan 2015 OP

I believe in free speech, bravenak Jan 2015 #1

+1 Initech Jan 2015 #35

I still don't know why he's not in jail or dead like he promised.nt bravenak Jan 2015 #38

That is a good question. Initech Jan 2015 #47

Not like I ever respected Salman Rushdie before, so my opinion of him is unchanged. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2015 #2

Why didn't you respect Salman Rushdie before? oberliner Jan 2015 #4

Absolutism on free speech doesn't bother me at all... brooklynite Jan 2015 #6

It becomes a matter of "taste" or what personally "offends" someone. hifiguy Jan 2015 #16

Not exactly. There are two discussions going on. CJCRANE Jan 2015 #24

1. Yes. Charlie Hebdo has a right to say hifiguy Jan 2015 #27

There's the "but". Ergo having a different opinion is not the same as trying to censor someone. nt CJCRANE Jan 2015 #34

+1. closeupready Jan 2015 #13

I like free speech jollyreaper2112 Jan 2015 #3

Do you think offensive cartoons of the prophet should be avoided? oberliner Jan 2015 #5

nope jollyreaper2112 Jan 2015 #26

Can one draw a caricature of a non-white person without it being racist? oberliner Jan 2015 #29

yes jollyreaper2112 Jan 2015 #36

But I'm looking at your Dr. Seuss example oberliner Jan 2015 #40

yes jollyreaper2112 Jan 2015 #41

It seems challenging to draw an unflattering cartoon of Tojo then oberliner Jan 2015 #42

I loved your last paragraph. It was brilliant.nt bravenak Jan 2015 #48

+1 hifiguy Jan 2015 #30

The First Amendment is a bit like loving thine enemy RufusTFirefly Jan 2015 #7

An excellent quote on the matter hifiguy Jan 2015 #20

That is a great quote from a great writer Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #21

He's just joined the "but-brigade"... CJCRANE Jan 2015 #8

anytime someone says 'but'... tulsakatz Jan 2015 #9

That's a good point but...Salman Rushdie said "but" when he gave his opinion: CJCRANE Jan 2015 #14

See post #17 Martin Eden Jan 2015 #18

Is that why so many of his wives divorced him? closeupready Jan 2015 #10

He's been married 4 times. Same as my mother. The Pope says insult my mother, you deserve a Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #23

He arbitrarily ignores those with whom he has a relationship. Control Freak Alert! closeupready Jan 2015 #28

The French government says "but" BainsBane Jan 2015 #11

?should women and children rape victims have their names broadcast GusBob Jan 2015 #12

What an odd response Bonx Jan 2015 #19

So "but for the right to privacy" ? GusBob Jan 2015 #43

And those who work to make it socially unacceptable to say things Ykcutnek Jan 2015 #15

Salmon Rushdie: I believe in free speech, BUT not if the word "but" is used after the first part Martin Eden Jan 2015 #17

Religion does not want your respect, it wants your fear.... Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #22

That is a quote I am going to save. hifiguy Jan 2015 #33

thanks for the additional quote kpete Jan 2015 #37

I would think as a writer, he'd entertain dependent clauses and contrasting conjunctions. LanternWaste Jan 2015 #25

Perhaps Boreal Jan 2015 #31

"Freedom defined is freedom denied." RadiationTherapy Jan 2015 #32

not gonna hijack this thread but….. dhill926 Jan 2015 #39

The audio version is amazing, aside from some sadly racist accents by some actors. RadiationTherapy Jan 2015 #45

Rushdie gets it. Many here do not. nt longship Jan 2015 #44

I support the right of Nazis to march through a Jewish suburb of Chicago that is home to a number of Douglas Carpenter Jan 2015 #46

Do you think Charlie Hebdo is in some way similar to Nazis? oberliner Jan 2015 #50

THANK YOU Skittles Jan 2015 #49

How about "I believe in free speech BUT thucythucy Jan 2015 #51