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Jackpine Radical

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Mon Feb 2, 2015, 12:51 PM Feb 2015

New Poll Reveals Serious Liabilities for Hillary [View all]

Last edited Mon Feb 2, 2015, 02:31 PM - Edit history (1)

I hadn't seen this posted. Please forgive if a dup.

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It has been brought to my attention that this poll was commissioned by Warrenistas, and that some of the items have a sort of push-poll or attack-testing flavor. So proceed with caution.[/font]

A new national poll has just been released and it should cause supporters of Hillary Clinton to be very concerned about the popularity of Clinton’s ideas and her ability to win the Presidency. The poll was completed January 20-21, 2014 by Public Policy Polling, which, in the November 2014 elections, was the country’s most accurate pollster.

Hillary long has promoted the interests of Wall Street, as did Bill, and Bill’s Presidency delivered big-time for them, deregulating banks, deregulating the telecom industry and passing NAFTA. Those gifts to the financial industry have brought the Clintons and the Clinton Foundation millions from Wall Street, but it turns out this comes at a serious price to Mrs. Clinton: The public doesn’t like it. When voters are asked whether her past support of deregulation of the big banks would make them more or less likely to vote for her, 19% say More Likely and 49% say Less Likely. Hillary has defended bonuses for bank managers in the bailed-out banks and when asked if they would be more or less likely to support a candidate who supported bank bonuses, 13% say More Likely and 57% say Less Likely. When told that Hillary has accepted speaking fees up to $200,000 per speech from Wall Street banks and has failed to demand accountability from banks for the 2008 financial collapse, 14% say they’d be More Likely to support such a candidate and 57% say Less Likely. When asked if they would be more or less likely to support a candidate for President who had supported NAFTA, as had the Clintons, 21% say More Likely and 51% say Less Likely. When asked if they would be more or less likely to support a candidate who supports loaning money to college students at the same low interest rates the U.S. loans money to banks, as Elizabeth Warren has, or a candidate like Hillary who has remained silent on this issue, 58% support low interest rates for students and 24% favor a candidate who has stayed silent about this.

Other subjects polled almost as badly for Mrs. Clinton. When asked if it’s a good thing to keep electing Presidents from the same family, 20% say it is a good thing and 46% say it’s better to have a fresher face in the White House. When asked if Hillary Clinton should be a candidate for the Democratic Presidential nomination in 2016, 37% say Yes and 43% say No. When asked, “Some people say Hillary Clinton is a strong leader with a lot of great experience, and that she would bring the right balance of views to the Presidency, while others think she is too beholden to special interests like Wall Street and defense contractors,” 36% say she would bring the right balance of views to the Presidency, while 48% say “Clinton is too beholden to wealthy special interests.” When asked if Hillary as the Democratic candidate for President would make them more or less likely to support Democratic candidates for other offices, only 25% say More Likely and 40% say Less Likely. I don’t recall ever seeing a poll showing that a Presidential candidate would drag the ticket down by 15 points and I certainly hope all Democratic office holders who will be running for re-election in 2016 and donors who are working to take back the Senate and House from Republican control pay attention to that finding!


By contrast, Elizabeth Warren’s positions on these important economic issues polled extremely well with voters. When asked, “U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren has said that special interests like Wall Street have rigged the system in their favor, while working and middle class wages have stagnated,” 49% say they would be More Likely to support a candidate “who wanted to bring the big banks under control,” while only 23% disagreed. When asked if they would be more or less likely to support a candidate who has criticized bank bonuses, as had Elizabeth Warren, 54% say More Likely and 20% say Less Likely. When asked if they would be more or less likely to support a candidate for President, like Elizabeth Warren, who thinks Wall Street should be held accountable for the financial speculation, which contributed to the collapse of the economy, 59% say More Likely and only 16% say Less Likely.

With the collapse of the middle class, the American public increasingly is turning populist, but tone-deaf Hillary is still preaching 1990s values and economic policies, which are not likely to play well in 2016. If she tries to change stripes now, she risks the most fatal of all political afflictions: Inauthenticity.


http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/new-national-poll-reveals-serious-liabilities-hillary?akid=12744.187861.zCmQfy&rd=1&src=newsletter1031225&t=11
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Indeed. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2015 #1
Now what, indeed, my dear Peggy. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #3
I like Warren, QuestionAlways Feb 2015 #121
Interesting but elleng Feb 2015 #2
Actually, I think the "2014" date in the text is a typo & should be 2015. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #7
Thanks. That's a different story! elleng Feb 2015 #11
Not so sure fredamae Feb 2015 #66
I'm realizing a LOT that's funny about this poll. See my Post 71 for my current view. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #76
The public has always been populist. zeemike Feb 2015 #39
Interesting reading. Thanks for posting. Should give heart to the Sanders KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #4
Unless, of course, there is the least bit of consistency ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #27
That's a good point about how a lot of people come to the interent to seek out KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #29
Agreed, on both points ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #34
Awesome. ZombieHorde Feb 2015 #32
I'm so glad my post meets your approval! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #49
Not half as glad as I am. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2015 #122
Building a better mousetrap ;~/ Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #55
I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #61
Where do we go from here? Autumn Feb 2015 #5
Change course 90 degrees to port Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #8
If you envision the ship of state moving in the wrong direction... brooklynite Feb 2015 #36
Make that 180 degrees Vincardog Feb 2015 #43
At this point, I'll settle for just turning away from where we're going. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #100
Paging Bernie! Paging Bernie Sanders! HappyMe Feb 2015 #6
Just don't do it at 3 am. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #9
lol! HappyMe Feb 2015 #10
YES! PAGING B E R N I E S A N D E R S ! TheNutcracker Feb 2015 #17
This is a push poll/test of attack themes, not a legitimate measure of public opinion geek tragedy Feb 2015 #12
My thoughts too... and in contrast to other electoral polls. n/t Adrahil Feb 2015 #13
"Given that it is possible that Hillary Clinton is a geek tragedy Feb 2015 #18
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #28
Have to wait for what 2016 looks like. (Werewolf reminded me how Julian Bond said BO was to appalachiablue Feb 2015 #35
What I thought also. I am fairly neutral on Hillary but she is the candidate to beat. yellowcanine Feb 2015 #15
Bullshit. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #20
PPP is a good firm. This is a meaningless poll. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #21
You're basing that judgment on a few selected items Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #22
It was the Draft Warren people who paid for it. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #23
I hadn't seen that Politico story. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #38
good onya. I know you're not the type to peddle bullshit nt geek tragedy Feb 2015 #44
Thanks. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #45
In your defense the Politico article is not very well written at best and biased at worse. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #115
It would certainly help to have some accurate information Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #117
The poll is most likely a piece of trash. That's not the main question. Politico, rhett o rick Feb 2015 #120
What is your expertise in polling? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #63
Polls should not make statements about candidates as part of the questioning. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #64
You seem to be whining? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #68
Here's the evidence it was from Warrenistas, which you will likely ignore geek tragedy Feb 2015 #70
Hmmm? Basically ALL polls are "suspect" Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #81
Well, no. Not every firm is like Rasmussen. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #82
NOT EVERY... broad brush stroke? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #88
These are the push poll questions the Republicans will ask, and they won't just ask them JDPriestly Feb 2015 #30
This is where Hillary stood on Raising-the-Cap in 2008: bvar22 Feb 2015 #96
Thanks. I remember that moment in the debates. We should raise the cap. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #98
I got that vibe too, but still, HRC appears to be very friendly toward the banks and Wall Street. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2015 #33
She's a wholly-owned subsidiary of Goldman. hifiguy Feb 2015 #91
How can you identify a "push-poll"? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #60
the OP quotes several such slanted questions. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #62
Looks like simple facts? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #65
That rhetoric belongs in a political campaign, NOT a poll trying to measure public opinion geek tragedy Feb 2015 #67
Is it rhetoric to ask pointed questions? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #69
LMAO. You can't even admit this crap poll was commissioned by the Hillary Haters geek tragedy Feb 2015 #74
Admit to what exactly? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #84
so you think the person who gave this survey to politico lied geek tragedy Feb 2015 #87
WE don't know who or why or how the survey... Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #89
There's a link to the poll at the Politico story geek tragedy Feb 2015 #92
The fact that someone told Politico that rich Sen Warren donors funded the poll is rhett o rick Feb 2015 #116
It does show how opinions change about a politicians when a voter is informed about the politician. Autumn Feb 2015 #105
And this covers just domestic issues. Her negatives on her foreign policy record are far worse. leveymg Feb 2015 #14
ROTFLMFAO DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #16
Post removed Post removed Feb 2015 #19
Nope, not concerned. This is like all those polls that say that folks prefer progressive policies. stevenleser Feb 2015 #24
Except when those policies get on the ballot jeff47 Feb 2015 #52
that's because of things like guns . it's "safer" to vote on a specific issue such as minimum wage JI7 Feb 2015 #77
I think it's more about appealing to the DC media jeff47 Feb 2015 #79
So regulating Wall Street, taxing the rich, and stopping TPP.... Mustellus Feb 2015 #25
This is a push poll Renew Deal Feb 2015 #26
Do you have a link to who commissioned the survey? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #73
Here,... DonViejo Feb 2015 #83
I don't see any named "donors"? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #85
Well, that's the best I can do for ya, but.... DonViejo Feb 2015 #93
The article is some of the worst reporting jobs I've seen. They substantiate nothing. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #118
Next: Romney's back in C Moon Feb 2015 #31
I would like to see the actual questions and also see if they were "loaded" (i.e., biased) George II Feb 2015 #37
Exactly. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #46
This article is stinking my atmosphere. I will vote asjr Feb 2015 #40
So, what parts of the article are inaccurate? [n/t] Maedhros Feb 2015 #41
It's impossible to say what parts are inaccurate since the writer has only paraphrased.... George II Feb 2015 #50
Poll or no poll, I will vote for the candidate that pushes reigning in Wall Street the most. Kablooie Feb 2015 #42
PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE, SETTLE DOWN ellennelle Feb 2015 #47
they are not a slouch outfit dsc Feb 2015 #103
She has the same problem as Obama LiberalLovinLug Feb 2015 #48
Considering Obama won BOTH of his Presidential elections by the two largest popular vote counts.... George II Feb 2015 #51
The "problem" is worse though with her LiberalLovinLug Feb 2015 #108
Hillary Clinton Koch Brothers photo-ops? Really? When? Where? George II Feb 2015 #114
Great job with the edit - thanks! George II Feb 2015 #53
Whatever we do, whatever decisions we make, Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #71
Polls and apparently Reports fredamae Feb 2015 #86
I favor progressives over wall street lackeys as much as the next guy but... fbc Feb 2015 #54
Push poll by anti-Hillary forces. Dawson Leery Feb 2015 #56
How can you identify a "push-poll"? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #58
this poll was commissioned by Warrenistas??? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #57
It certainly offers a lot of specifics for anyone to the left of her that decides to run. raindaddy Feb 2015 #59
What is a "traditional" Democrat? George II Feb 2015 #72
Take your pick wyldwolf Feb 2015 #95
A traditional Democrat simply put... raindaddy Feb 2015 #97
What makes that 'traditional?' wyldwolf Feb 2015 #101
I guess it's a matter of opinion but...... raindaddy Feb 2015 #107
roughly 38 years wyldwolf Feb 2015 #112
I think most people relate to modern history... raindaddy Feb 2015 #113
Actually this Poll Reveals Serious Liabilities for the idiots that commissioned it. nt William769 Feb 2015 #75
Her liabilities are the baggage she's accumulated and her failed attempts to deodorize it. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #78
thanks for the edit. but even 'warrenistas' have a right to do polling and they all have an angel. TheNutcracker Feb 2015 #80
Amen to every word. hifiguy Feb 2015 #90
Funny how some get their hopes up with push polls like this, part of which was done ONLINE wyldwolf Feb 2015 #94
I'm NOT A Hillary Fan, Can't Read This Right Now, Posting To Return... n/t ChiciB1 Feb 2015 #99
Exactly why Hillary is kaput if an FDR Democrat enters the race MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #102
Well, maybe Hillary can use this poll to her advantage in preparing for running. nt kelliekat44 Feb 2015 #104
Perhaps the poll should have indicated where the candidates poll on national security. Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #106
This poll is over a year old. Beacool Feb 2015 #109
That now appears to be the case. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #110
I'll bet the numbers favor Warren even more a year later, especially after taking on congress! TheNutcracker Feb 2015 #119
Poll or no poll, her liability is that her agenda is MALIGNANT. woo me with science Feb 2015 #111
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