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pampango

(24,692 posts)
7. Everyone who disagrees with you is not an 'uncritical Obama fan' or thinks that he is 'wonderful'.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 11:44 AM
Feb 2015
And please, uncritical Obama fans, stop saying this will improve labor conditions. That is not going to happen.
A simple (and simplistic) "Obama is wonderful and would never ever champion anything bad and eleventy dimensional chess" would be more appropriate, really.

I suspect that each and every poster who disagrees with you is not an "uncritical Obama fan" or does not believe that he "is wonderful and would never ever champion anything bad and eleventy dimensional chess".

Some may want labor and environmental standards in our trading rules and hope Obama is the best chance to achieve this. Some may believe that to the way to improve international trading rules (and improve the flaws in previous deals) is through international negotiations and agreements. Otherwise how do improved rules get into trade?

Some may be believe that there are good trade agreements, and bad ones (that they are not all bad by definition), and will be disappointed if Obama delivers a bad one, but refuse to be paralyzed into inaction by fear of another mistake.

It is common sense to take a method and try it: If it fails, admit it frankly and try another. But above all, try something.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt


The TPP is not good for anyone but the 1%, the corporations, and, evidently, Obama. djean111 Feb 2015 #1
It's good for corporate shareholders as well. It is what they collectively strive towards. raouldukelives Feb 2015 #4
Everyone who disagrees with you is not an 'uncritical Obama fan' or thinks that he is 'wonderful'. pampango Feb 2015 #7
I couldn't agree more. Andy823 Feb 2015 #13
Why doesn't the govt. site aspirant Feb 2015 #23
That quote of yours F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #14
Do you think FDR... Oilwellian Feb 2015 #19
The "FDR supported free trade" story by this poster is an old corporate/republican talking point Elwood P Dowd Feb 2015 #20
Will TPP make moot any gains regarding Net Neutrality and Keystone XL? GoneFishin Feb 2015 #2
Excellent questions. k&r, nt appal_jack Feb 2015 #3
Yes, they are bones. djean111 Feb 2015 #6
He can be for any liberal idea now that he has a GOP congress. zeemike Feb 2015 #11
Yes and Yes. And the case would be heard by a "Court" of judges picked from the Corporation's Lawers Vincardog Feb 2015 #16
I agree. Those are excellent questions, I think we can predict what will follow. 2banon Feb 2015 #21
They seem to be willing to speak a little about the actual trade deals but how about rhett o rick Feb 2015 #5
Shhhhhh.....eleventy-dimensional chess. n/t djean111 Feb 2015 #8
Thank you. woo me with science Feb 2015 #24
It will drive American wages down AgingAmerican Feb 2015 #9
I'd like to believe him, but ... Scuba Feb 2015 #10
When people lie to me, it makes me mad BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #15
I've been wondering why.. ananda Feb 2015 #12
» bigtree Feb 2015 #17
Thanks "Big Tree" and a Kick & Recommend for this: KoKo Feb 2015 #18
K&R. Another great OP. woo me with science Feb 2015 #22
Look at the bright side. The competitive market pressures should keep down the prices of cat food GoneFishin Feb 2015 #25
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