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H2O Man

(73,559 posts)
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 02:54 PM Feb 2015

A 2016 Primary Proposal [View all]

What is the most obnoxious thing that people such as Sean Hannity do when it comes to differences of opinion? Yep, you got it -- he automatically ascribes the most offensively vile motives to those who disagree with him. If you didn’t like George W. Bush, for example, it was because you hated America. If you support women’s right to health care, you clearly favor the brutal murder of infants. If you favor marriage equality, you are engaged in the war on Christianity.

This is, of course, the weakest excuse for meaningful debate. It shows a lack of confidence in one’s position. The combination of concrete thinking (“if you don’t like A, you must like B”) and disgusting insults (no examples necessary) highlight just how shallow Sean et al are. It is nature’s way of communicating a warning of toxicity.

I said that, to say this: the vast majority of folks who are part of the DU community are good and sincere individuals, fully capable of determining if the will -- or will not -- vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016 -- if she is indeed in the primary contests and the general election. There are numerous valid reasons why a person might support or not support her potential candidacy. I believe that is true for even those among the DU community who post foolish things about the ethics and motivations of those who think differently than themselves.

If we keep open minds, and focus on communicating what our opinions are -- rather than attacking other people who honestly think differently (even very differently) -- there is a possibility we may influence others, and perhaps even convince them. More, there is a very real possibility we might learn something, ourselves. Besides that, a closed mind tends to be much like a closed room -- stuffy.

Having been on DU since 2003, I recognize that primary season isn’t a pillow fight here. Yet we have the option of meaningful discourse. Let’s use it.

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A 2016 Primary Proposal [View all] H2O Man Feb 2015 OP
---* randys1 Feb 2015 #1
Some people even H2O Man Feb 2015 #14
Well then it should be easy to prove, lets do a poll...let's ask minorities and Women and Gay folks randys1 Feb 2015 #18
No, thank you. H2O Man Feb 2015 #19
YOu would be ashamed to find out if certain groups value their civil rights more than others? randys1 Feb 2015 #20
Er, no. H2O Man Feb 2015 #22
That is a perfect example of what the OP was about. bvar22 Feb 2015 #31
Well, if you're going to take all the fun out of it..... brooklynite Feb 2015 #2
Right. H2O Man Feb 2015 #15
And, insults and attacks against motives are not only counterproductive, they make one less bright. NYC_SKP Feb 2015 #3
Thanks. H2O Man Feb 2015 #16
As always, well said. HappyMe Feb 2015 #4
+1 Scuba Feb 2015 #6
Thanks! H2O Man Feb 2015 #17
I'd love it if DUers take your advice. cyberswede Feb 2015 #5
Can't wait! bigwillq Feb 2015 #10
In the 2008 primary, H2O Man Feb 2015 #21
I hope not... Hepburn Feb 2015 #27
I have always felt that a Liberal is one who is willing to listen, to give thought to libdem4life Feb 2015 #7
Well said! H2O Man Feb 2015 #23
But, but... what if I only say I want Warren because I REALLY want RAND PAUL?? beerandjesus Feb 2015 #8
I suspected as much! H2O Man Feb 2015 #34
Hahaha! beerandjesus Feb 2015 #42
K/R Jack Rabbit Feb 2015 #9
Thanks! H2O Man Feb 2015 #35
IMO, right now we have a better chance of no primaries. CK_John Feb 2015 #11
I agree. H2O Man Feb 2015 #36
Why, you must prefer that we all group hug and sing Kumbaya together then, hippie-boy. byronius Feb 2015 #12
Darn you! H2O Man Feb 2015 #24
I'm of the following generation that read all the books and went to the Kerouac Conference. byronius Feb 2015 #26
Great resources. H2O Man Feb 2015 #33
My favorite clip of him: byronius Feb 2015 #38
Outstanding! H2O Man Feb 2015 #40
There's going to be a primary? Seriously? I thought there was going to be a coronation. antigop Feb 2015 #13
Well done! H2O Man Feb 2015 #41
I Hear what you are saying... V0ltairesGh0st Feb 2015 #25
Well put. TDale313 Feb 2015 #28
My political message board fantasy is/are ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #29
Geez... Rex Feb 2015 #30
If we can't have rational, civil discourse among ourselves ... Martin Eden Feb 2015 #32
I agree and think that many of us will vote for Hillary marlakay Feb 2015 #37
While your post makes perfect and sense and is thoughtfully laid out Ramses Feb 2015 #39
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