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proverbialwisdom

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2. The only places "in the free world" with such a policy are MS and WV. And CA & OR are next, really?
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 04:18 AM
Feb 2015

Great overview. Check it out, or... (go reflexively with the "skeptics" and pretend attacking the messenger, JB Handley, is the same as addressing the specific content of his testimony).

https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2015R1/Downloads/CommitteeMeetingDocument/47661

PAGE 36-43
TESTIMONY: Senate Committee on Health Care, State of Oregon, SB 442
February 18, 2015, 3pm

Respectfully Submitted: Jonathan B. Handley, Portland, OR


I was born in 1969. My father worked for the U.S. Government and I spent my childhood living in foreign countries, including the third world. Specifically, I was born in Singapore, then lived in Laos, Mexico, Korea, Japan, India, and the Philippines.

By my sixth birthday, I received a grand total of 5 vaccines (Oral Polio, Measles, DPT, Oral Polio, and Typhoid). I still have my shot records and would be happy to share with the committee.

In 1983, attached as Exhibit A, the 1983 immunization schedule for children by the age of 6 recommended 10 vaccines (DTP, Oral Polio, DTP, Oral Polio, DTP, MMR, DTP, Oral Polio, DTP, Oral Polio).

In 2015, attached as Exhibit B, by the age of 6, the CDC now recommends 37 vaccines for children before the age of 6. (Hep B, Hep B, Rotavirus, DTaP, Hib, PCV, IPV, Flu, Rotavirus, DTaP, Hib, PCV, IPV, Rotavirus, DTaP, Hib, PCV, IPV, Flu, MMR, Varicella, Hep A, Hep B, DTaP, Hib, PCV, Flu, Hep A, DTaP, IPV, Flu, Flu, Flu, Flu, Flu, MMR, Varicella). Because this is so confusing, I’ve attached the CDC schedule with my handwritten notes to count the total vaccines.

Interestingly, as opposed to the 37 we have, many other first world countries give far fewer vaccines to children by the age of 6: Iceland (11), Sweden (11), Singapore (13), Japan (11, and pulled the MMR vaccine due to high injury rate), Norway (13), Hong Kong (13), Belgium (18), Austria (19), Israel (11), Denmark (12), Netherlands (20). Please note that every country listed has a lower under-5 mortality rate than the U.S.

Some other facts:

1. The package insert for Merck’s MMR vaccine, the only option for parents trying to protect against measles states very clearly:

“Routine administration of DTP (diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis) and/or OPV (oral poliovirus vaccine) concurrently with measles, mumps and rubella vaccines is not recommended because there are limited data relating to the simultaneous administration of these antigens.”

Note: My children and many others receive these vaccines all at once in the United States.

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4. PhRMA, the lobbying arm of the vaccine industry, brags that more than 300 vaccines are in development.

“Washington, D.C. (April 20, 2012)— America’s biopharmaceutical research companies are developing nearly 300 vaccines for the prevention and treatment of a wide variety of diseases, according to a new report by the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA). The vaccines – all either currently tested in clinical trials or under review by the Food and Drug Administration – include 170 for infectious diseases, 102 for cancers and eight for neurological disorders.”

If you amend SB 442, will parents simply have to comply with every new vaccine added to the schedule? (Companies would not be developing these vaccines if they didn’t feel there was a market for them.)

5. By tying vaccination to public education, it becomes an effective mandate, as most Oregon families have neither the time, finances, nor abilities to homeschool their children.

A mandate of a medical procedure violates the very core of medical ethics code, as clearly stated by the American Medical Association:

“The patient should make his or her own determination about treatment… Informed consent is a basic policy in both ethics and law that physicians must honor, unless the patient is unconscious or otherwise incapable of consenting and harm from failure to treat is imminent.”

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In the free world, parents have the final say as to what is injected in their children’s bodies without losing the right to have their children educated. Canada, the UK, Japan, Ireland, Israel, Germany, Sweden, Norway, etc., etc., etc., the list goes on of countries who leave the final right for medical decisions to the parents. In fact, the only places in the free world where that right isn’t inalienable without a loss of education are the U.S. states of West Virginia and Mississippi. And, if SB 442 is amended to remove exemptions in Oregon, then our great state will become the third. Is that really who we are?

There is no imminent threat in Oregon. We’ve had exactly one reported case of measles. Please do not succumb to the hysteria of 100 measles cases reported nationwide.

If you paid close attention, what you learned from the recent measles hysteria was that the majority of adult Americans are way behind on their vaccines, which means this notion of “herd immunity” is mythical. How can the herd be protected if 80% or more of adults haven’t had their shots?

On that note, the CDC recommended adult schedule will likely be the next target of compulsory mandates. Right now, between the ages of 19 and 65, the CDC recommends every American adult get 73 vaccines (Exhibit C).

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Handley? Dual B.A. degrees in East Asian Studies and Economics, with honors, from Stanford University; private equity fund co-founder.

http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=75363&privcapId=23203

Background (not current)
Mr. Jonathan Bradford Handley Jr. is an Operating Partner at Swander Pace Capital, which he co-founded in 1996 and is based at the firm’s San Francisco office. Mr. Handley was responsible for SPC Partners IV, L.P. Previously, Mr. Handley was a Vice President at TSG Consumer Partners, where he focused on the management of private equity investments in consumer products companies. Mr. Handley served as Managing Director of Swander Pace Capital (“SPC”), a consumer products-focused private equity firm, from 1996 to 2013. Earlier in his career, he was a Management Consultant with Swander Pace & Company, where he specialized in mergers and acquisitions and investment strategy. Mr. Handley serves as the Chairman or Board member of ReNew Life Formulas, Inc., Gilchrist & Soames, Inc., and International Fiber Corporation. He serves as the Director of Marketfare Foods, LLC and Kubic Marketing. Mr. Handley has been Director of Great Ajax Corp since June 30, 2014. Mr. Handley served as the Chairman of Fresh Food Concepts, Inc and Genisoy Food Company, Inc. and served on the Board of Bravo Sports Corporation. Previously, he served as the Chairman of Totes Isotoner Corp. and Fleischmann's Vinegar Company, Inc. Mr. Handley served as a Director of The American Hard Cider Company, Oregon Chai, Inc. Switch Manufacturing, and Ethnic Gourmet Foods. He received dual B.A. degrees in East Asian Studies and Economics, with honors, from Stanford University.

Also, Generation Rescue co-founder with wife, Lisa; AOA contributor (169 posts categorized "JB Handley&quot ; responsible for MUST REVIEW SITE http://www.fourteenstudies.org/about.html ... Sued Offit and won a settlement.

5 YEARS AGO (out of date): http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/vaccines/interviews/handley.html

No, of course, I don't agree with everything Handley has ever publicly stated that I've read. Occasional OPINIONS are cringeworthy, IMO. However, when strictly documenting the FACTS, as presented in the testimony provided (above), Handley is HIGHLY ORGANIZED AND EXCEEDINGLY FORMIDABLE. Supporting documents at link.
Can't pass soon enough! SunSeeker Feb 2015 #1
The only places "in the free world" with such a policy are MS and WV. And CA & OR are next, really? proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #2
Fuck JB Handley and his unscientific crankery. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2015 #3
^^^THIS^^^ COLGATE4 Feb 2015 #4
"How can the herd be protected if 80% or more of adults haven’t had their shots?" SunSeeker Feb 2015 #5
Fuck that libertarian bullshit. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #7
From the poster that thinks Andrew Wakefield will be the Carl Sagan of his generation... SidDithers Feb 2015 #8
Oregon Update. proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #19
Details matter. Know the stats. proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #20
Updates. proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #24
Great analysis. proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #34
Oregon Update: Senator drops Oregon vaccine mandate bill proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #21
More. proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #23
AP: Bills Banning Most Vaccine Exemptions Fail in Northwest proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #22
North Carolina "vaccine bill" officially withdrawn for this legislative session. proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #30
I'll be contacting my State Rep (Mark Ridley-Thomas) and KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #6
DU rec... SidDithers Feb 2015 #9
Texas legislator faces prickly crowd on vaccination exemptions; NCSL, what's that? proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #10
This is good news. HappyMe Feb 2015 #11
Washington state panel OKs bill to trim vaccine exemptions proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #12
This has been a wake-up call. I hope it passes. nt Hekate Feb 2015 #13
Bill would tighten rules for vaccine exemptions in Illinois proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #14
Whoa. proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #15
WebMD: Survey Finds Support for Vaccine Opt-Out Laws proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #16
"Even in CA, measles outbreak & all, only 2.5 % of kindergartners this year had a non-med exemption" proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #17
But they are generally clustered in the same areas. RandySF Feb 2015 #18
Talk about clusters? "Los Alamos schools top NM in vaccine exemptions" reports Albuquerque Journal. proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #25
Informed consent is the framing, as displayed by widely heralded author of "On Immunity," Eula Biss. proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #26
Will a mass exodus of families from the state occur if this bill becomes law, or will CA turn red? proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #27
Hearing live now (CA Senate Health Committee on 4/8). Update added 4/21/15. proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #28
SB277 goes to Educ 4/15 9am. Developing... (nt) proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #29
Hearing live now (CA Senate Education Committee on 4/15). Update added 4/20/15. proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #32
Related: ACLU of California SB 277 analysis proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #31
SacBee: California vaccine bill stalls proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #33
Watch previous hearings here. Tech serves the public well in California! proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #35
Updates. proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #36
And it's out of the Senate Education Committee, 7-2. (nt) proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #37
Live webcast of CA Senate at 9 PST to include vote on #SB277. proverbialwisdom May 2015 #38
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