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In reply to the discussion: Slate: Liberal Amnesia - Obama supporters may have forgotten how much they once despised Hillary [View all]InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Hence, the debate part. Keep up the good fight! We're winning!
Soon I believe a true progressive will emerge that we can ALL rally around, even the Hillary supporters, who, of course, have every right to support their chosen candidate. That, however, does not give them the right to engage in dishonest debate tactics.
Speakin of which, I can't tell you how many times I've been attacked personally, made to address false "straw person" arguments, and been accused of all kinds of bad intentions - "Hillary hater" seems to be the preferred invective - merely for expressing my opinions here on DU detesting the "sabre rattling", pro-Wall Street, anti-Main Street, etc etc policies Hillary is well known for.
That doesn't mean, however, I don't respect Hillary's right - and that of her supporters - to take more conservative positions to the right of my preferred candidates. I just ask that those defending Hillary do so in a mature and honest way, as you seem to be saying, and as many do. I tip my hat to them and say let's go at it and may the best candidate win.
A bigger concern, however, is that Hillary also engage in a more honest debate with the voters. Hillary HERSELF is showing signs of not being completely open and honest - certainly not with the base - and we will soon start to hear more of her poll-tested phony comments about income inequality and the need for more shared wealth.
I want TRUE, BELIEVABLE progressive candidates to represent me - authentic ones like Obama who started pushing those issues, and Bernie and Elizabeth who have done such a wonderful job continuing that debate, BEFORE they became popular, and indeed, made them so. Not ones who, with their finger constantly in the wind, have to pretend they feel the pain of the "common folk." Some of Hillary's comments are downright embarrassing and cringe worthy, for instance, that she and Bill were "dead broke" cuz they had to make payments on two mansions while putting Chelsea through private and Ivy League schools. Those kind of amateurish comments, which need to be walked back time and time again, are as phony as a three-dollar bill, and EVERYONE can see right through her.
The fact that Hillary - and Bill quite frankly - needs an image "makeover" and she has already started hiring literally dozens of high-paid consultants to advise her what positions to take to make her more popular with the base and seem more palatable so as to get her elected tells me we're making a HUGE mistake if we go with her as our candidate. I could be wrong - I thought I was once, but was mistaken - but truly believe we can do better.
I sincerely hope that many here, like myself, who very much want to see a truly progressive candidate from the Democratic Party elected as the next POTUS, and who plan to devote enormous amounts of time to the campaign to see that it happens, will agree and rally behind a more authentic progressive candidate when the field finally shakes out.
Okay, I'm off my soap box.
Peace.