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BainsBane

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151. I'm of advanced age myself

Wed Feb 25, 2015, 03:05 AM

Feb 2015

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My point was people have lived long enough to figure it out, except my guess (and it is just a guess) is that they have been fortunate enough that they only have recently begun to feel what many of us have experienced our entire lives. And I gave a series of reasons why it appears they do see the issue as new rather than systemic.

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Salt of the Earth Hillary Clinton wants $300,000 from you PLUS your vote [View all] whereisjustice Feb 2015 OP

I'll do it for $25K. when do I show up :-) nt msongs Feb 2015 #1

We should just get our candidates from India on an H1B and pay them, like $5K, and no benefits whereisjustice Feb 2015 #5

Lol, what a great idea, Globalization! Cheap labor. I like the H1B method, we are told it is sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #101

Nice. Phlem Feb 2015 #127

Absolutely, we must support corporate profits & globalization. But new H1-B Reps. are only for the appalachiablue Feb 2015 #250

Is that with or without the lemons wedges? InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #6

*sniff* *sniff* This post has a scent o pine to it...nt SidDithers Feb 2015 #2

It certainly has a scent of something all right Hekate Feb 2015 #111

she delivered he Luskin Lecture for Thought Leadership speech on March 5, 2014. elleng Feb 2015 #3

But, BUT, this all goes to "her foundation" not her private accounts... HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #4

In that case I'll spend $1. 840high Feb 2015 #43

So? nt Codeine Feb 2015 #7

That's what he said..... DeSwiss Feb 2015 #12

That's known as the "1%'er fee." Pay to play, boys and girls. PAY TO PLAY. blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #8

Karl Rove is very concerned I bet. JoePhilly Feb 2015 #9

News flash: There is a Speakers Circuit out there and some folks get a lot of money stevenleser Feb 2015 #10

Is there anything Hillary has ever done wrong according to you? Nt Logical Feb 2015 #30

She's a saint. BeanMusical Feb 2015 #74

Speaking fees are indeed, a most heinous and grievous crime; and it's time people knew... LanternWaste Feb 2015 #204

Wonder why warren does not want them? nt Logical Feb 2015 #216

Groan - zzzzzz 840high Feb 2015 #44

Exactly. Nothing to see here. Nt stevenleser Feb 2015 #78

The price is based on whether you are in the big club or not. zeemike Feb 2015 #71

Nope, the price is based on demand. Sorry, it's not as exciting as your conspiracy stevenleser Feb 2015 #77

Then tell us who is demanding it. zeemike Feb 2015 #87

Do you really not understand this? Do you think attendees of speeches pay for them? Nt stevenleser Feb 2015 #164

Do you really not understand that students pay tuition zeemike Feb 2015 #198

What "conspiracy" did zeemike supposedly allude to? merrily Feb 2015 #156

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"But smear merchants have to make a living!" NCTraveler Feb 2015 #238

can you people debate anything without attacking others? in this thread alone, people have ND-Dem Feb 2015 #175

Post removed Post removed Feb 2015 #231

students just *love* hillary. they all think it's worth $300K to hear her, and they're happy ND-Dem Feb 2015 #100

that HRC Thespian2 Feb 2015 #88

What a pantload. Nt stevenleser Feb 2015 #91

I see your popular around here. Phlem Feb 2015 #131

The ignorant tend not to like me, and I am totally OK with that. Nt stevenleser Feb 2015 #162

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,!!! Phlem Feb 2015 #220

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Can't image Thespian2 Feb 2015 #256

"You?" BainsBane Feb 2015 #11

Some folks just figured out there is a speakers circuit because someone they don't like is on it stevenleser Feb 2015 #13

They haven't just figured it out BainsBane Feb 2015 #15

Well, since women here are indeed considered the lowest common denominator, sheshe2 Feb 2015 #113

women here (at DU and in the US) are *not* "considered the lowest common denominator". ND-Dem Feb 2015 #118

Thank you! n/t whathehell Feb 2015 #137

Amazing how fast calling "sexist" on every DU critic of Hillary got old and transparent, isn't it? merrily Feb 2015 #160

and how old it's gotten, and how hopeless it makes me feel. what kind of solidarity can ND-Dem Feb 2015 #178

Take heart. merrily Feb 2015 #182

I would love to see Warren as President Art_from_Ark Feb 2015 #174

And a few Shirley Chisholm(s) thrown in for good measure! :) - nt KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #209

Oh, yeah, that would be something to behold Art_from_Ark Feb 2015 #257

"for the first time, people of advanced age have decided that income inequality...is a problem" ND-Dem Feb 2015 #42

Sure seems like it BainsBane Feb 2015 #82

right because those people "of advanced age" never once complained about income inequality ND-Dem Feb 2015 #95

I'm of advanced age myself BainsBane Feb 2015 #151

Now you're trying to rationalize your BS charge: this time *you're* old, but unprivileged, ND-Dem Feb 2015 #159

Brilliant rant, BB. Some will deliberately misunderstand you, but you got it right. Hekate Feb 2015 #116

yes, using ageist slurs to pretend people are racist and sexist is a brilliant technique. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #139

Okay Einstein, then why do all the Hillary haters all tend to like Elizabeth Warren? Sexist? Nt Logical Feb 2015 #50

I'm no Einstein and I would yell you William769 Feb 2015 #58

Send me a PM! I am curious! Logical Feb 2015 #218

Warren isn't running BainsBane Feb 2015 #70

Some people just do not like her..... Logical Feb 2015 #217

because the hillary haters are all so old. according to the poster. though it doesn't make ND-Dem Feb 2015 #97

You deliberately misunderstand the poster, but that's a personal problem. nt Hekate Feb 2015 #117

please explain then her meaning then, because i didn't deliberately misunderstand anything. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #120

I don't dialog where there's no dialog possible Hekate Feb 2015 #129

You mean you can't explain, because it's clear what the poster meant. She meant old ND-Dem Feb 2015 #132

That one should ring a Bell. nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #196

Ask not for whom the Bell tolls... Hekate Feb 2015 #243

Yes, it's personal and emotional. betsuni Feb 2015 #68

Democratic monsters BainsBane Feb 2015 #84

you support clinton because (you perceive) some people see putin as a hero? i see why ND-Dem Feb 2015 #99

Yeah, that's exactly what I said BainsBane Feb 2015 #110

do clarify then. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #114

"The problem with that argument is none of you are discussing policy" whathehell Feb 2015 #144

Maybe that's because there isn't yet a campaign? BainsBane Feb 2015 #146

Yeah, sure, that's why she's hired 200 economic advisors.. whathehell Feb 2015 #150

Should you deicde you do care about issues BainsBane Feb 2015 #185

Your implication that I do NOT care about the issues is duly noted whathehell Mar 2015 #259

Wish I could recommend a post mcar Feb 2015 #203

Are you saying Carter wouldn't take more if he could get it? brooklynite Feb 2015 #14

That's different BainsBane Feb 2015 #16

Hypocrisy is always solved by "that's different"..... brooklynite Feb 2015 #17

My point was sarcastic BainsBane Feb 2015 #18

he apparently gets way less than anyone else, including ex-vps and failed presidential ND-Dem Feb 2015 #54

Perhaps so... brooklynite Feb 2015 #61

I make minimum wage. I'm not willing to pay *anyone* diddly to give a speech. But if ND-Dem Feb 2015 #65

And you're not alone, far from it. BeanMusical Feb 2015 #81

With my sub-zero net worth and sporadic income, it's not going to happen. hunter Feb 2015 #19

What I have to do for $300,000 JEB Feb 2015 #20

work for five years Doctor_J Feb 2015 #24

Probably take me 8 years JEB Feb 2015 #25

what's crudite, and is it a deal breaker do you think? Doctor_J Feb 2015 #21

lol, because veggie platter is soooo middle class! whereisjustice Feb 2015 #23

and here I thought it was ite ... GeorgeGist Feb 2015 #240

Clinton doesn’t have to wait “for these folks to get their act together.” whereisjustice Feb 2015 #22

God forbid you should try to understand a tight speaking schedule Hekate Feb 2015 #119

i wonder who they are, those folks who take so long to get their act together, and where ND-Dem Feb 2015 #180

I don't get what the problem is here. Kalidurga Feb 2015 #26

Or the two teleprompters and special podium. After all if you are going to save the middle class whereisjustice Feb 2015 #27

I still don't get it Kalidurga Feb 2015 #28

For $300,000 she can buy her own gd wedges. A rock star can be afforded arrogance. They are not whereisjustice Feb 2015 #31

I am still okay with this. Kalidurga Feb 2015 #34

Yes, of course, Goldman Sachs is OK with it too. I'm glad the lower classes keep you amused. Too bad whereisjustice Feb 2015 #45

I gave up being afraid of the boogey man when I was eight... Kalidurga Feb 2015 #48

! Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #75

Thank you, Kalidurga Hekate Feb 2015 #124

I am not Kali for nuthin nt Kalidurga Feb 2015 #133

heehee Hekate Feb 2015 #138

LOL! whathehell Feb 2015 #153

That is in the ball park for most ex politicians. still_one Feb 2015 #29

Good to know Kalidurga Feb 2015 #32

well, fuck us, do you think she'll make her speeches to anyone who can't afford $300,000 or whereisjustice Feb 2015 #37

It takes money to run in an election still_one Feb 2015 #38

More correctly, it takes money to buy an election. And she's buying this one. whereisjustice Feb 2015 #40

Name a politician who won that didn't have the financial backing in the last 30 years? still_one Feb 2015 #46

"everyone does it" ND-Dem Feb 2015 #66

That's not an answer, that's a sulk. Hekate Feb 2015 #126

For someone who doesn't want to talk to me, you sure are talking to me a lot. I guess ND-Dem Feb 2015 #135

and she's got plenty of it..I loved it when, after her 2008 run, she went around whathehell Feb 2015 #161

Yes, she will. When the time comes she will speak in some big open venue and it will be free. Hekate Feb 2015 #181

"Clinton went to a different part of town and held a fundraiser at a very rich person's home, ND-Dem Feb 2015 #188

...and obtuse Hekate Feb 2015 #189

....name-calling ND-Dem Feb 2015 #190

so ex-president carter gets $50K cause of lack of demand, or what? ND-Dem Feb 2015 #52

Maybe, or might be what he charges. Elizabeth Warren as an example usually doesn't take a fee still_one Feb 2015 #55

what's this about then? ND-Dem Feb 2015 #57

You are right. However, as a Senator, Warren is prohibited from taking speaking fee still_one Feb 2015 #67

"Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders generally do not take speaking fees" whathehell Feb 2015 #157

however, it's apparently because sitting congresspeople have to donate their speaking fees ND-Dem Feb 2015 #167

I just figured that out, thanks still_one Feb 2015 #199

Hey, give her a break, she was in near poverty when she left the White House!!! nt Logical Feb 2015 #33

So poor, her daughter had to work for $600,000 at NBC as a special correspondent to help whereisjustice Feb 2015 #93

yeah, poor chelsea had to go out at a young age to support bill and hill. luckily she was ND-Dem Feb 2015 #106

"Hard Choices: Armani or Versace" whereisjustice Feb 2015 #121

dead broke. merrily Feb 2015 #165

"A computer, mouse, printer and scanner" Takket Feb 2015 #35

We found something jakeXT Feb 2015 #207

That looks like the setup Takket Feb 2015 #214

Saw a clip of her today at wherever she was speaking ... earthside Feb 2015 #36

Yes, she's unbearable. Tone deaf, entitled 1%er who should run as a republican since she whereisjustice Feb 2015 #39

I'm sorry but you made me laugh! elias49 Feb 2015 #122

I'm no fan of HRC and will not vote for her in the primary, but I think KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #210

'Bellowing'? earthside Feb 2015 #211

For me, HRC's laugh sounds like fingernails scraping down a KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #212

+1 F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #221

She is in high demand. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #41

So is Charlie Sheen. I'm pretty sure he gets high fees and wouldn't be a good president. whereisjustice Feb 2015 #47

But Hillary will be president and a good one imho. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #49

Hillary Clinton would be a horrible President. More poverty, more jobs to Asia, higher CEO pay, low whereisjustice Feb 2015 #51

And if she is the nominee will you vote for her? hrmjustin Feb 2015 #53

Does one get kicked out of DU if you say 'no'? earthside Feb 2015 #56

No you don't get kicked out. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #60

No, but we'll send you a special "Jeb for President" sign for your lawn CAG Feb 2015 #64

It's a violation of DU's terms of service, so you take your chances. You also risk a hide. merrily Feb 2015 #169

That would be a no... SidDithers Feb 2015 #201

Interesting. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #208

Do you hate JFK and FDR, too? As I remember, they were pretty rich. Can the rich not allow CAG Feb 2015 #59

JFK and FDR didn't charge $300,000 a speech during time of the worst income disparity in US history whereisjustice Feb 2015 #69

Since both died in office, it's not the same is it? stevenleser Feb 2015 #83

wow - you are insulting JFK & FDR in order to buff up Hillary? That's very third way of you. whereisjustice Feb 2015 #89

Silly. Both JFK and FDR inherited their money from their fathers, grandfathers, and in the case of Hekate Feb 2015 #142

Silly and non-sequitur is the OP's m.o. where Hillary is concerned stevenleser Feb 2015 #163

It's almost like he's got a meme-generator that flags words and riffs off them randomly Hekate Feb 2015 #186

did truman inherit a wad from daddy too? ND-Dem Feb 2015 #172

:crickets: BeanMusical Feb 2015 #191

doubt it. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #170

What you doubt is not the issue. Hillarys fees are not out of line with other stevenleser Feb 2015 #171

they're nearly double the next front runner. i saw the list. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #173

It all sounds pretty ordinary to me bhikkhu Feb 2015 #62

I'd totally pay if Trey wasn't playing lead guitar Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #63

Hillafarian pill heads paying $300,000 to hear her lip sync and pander... whereisjustice Feb 2015 #73

Well, we will have a primary season, won't we. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #79

Papa Paul whores,,,,, Cryptoad Feb 2015 #72

I may dislike Hillary, but DonCoquixote Feb 2015 #76

THE GREEN M&M IS THE BEST ONE! Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #80

Great--now I have to remember that thread of fail. nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #197

Beastie Boys demanded removal of all the blue M &M's. merrily Feb 2015 #168

OMG the horror ! obnoxiousdrunk Feb 2015 #85

Most speakers of her notariety expect certain things. But I do have a question rpannier Feb 2015 #86

Still water as in "don't make waves". A Democrat only a conservative would love. whereisjustice Feb 2015 #90

I wish we still had DUzy's cuz that is funny rpannier Feb 2015 #92

You're on a roll tonight! Lol! sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #103

Still water is not sparkling water. Beaverhausen Feb 2015 #94

Ah rpannier Feb 2015 #96

still water is typically found in swamps. mosquitoes breed in still water. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #104

Still water comes out of the tap. Beaverhausen Feb 2015 #140

If it's coming out of a tap, it's moving, not still. If it's moving through pipes, it's moving. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #141

Are you serious? Beaverhausen Feb 2015 #145

are you serious? you don't know what still water is? (sorry, i refuse to be so puerile as ND-Dem Feb 2015 #147

Tap and other non-carbonated water is still water. tammywammy Feb 2015 #152

That's what passes as debate and a point from that crowd. Nt stevenleser Feb 2015 #166

Hipster speak. You and I would call it... GeorgeGist Feb 2015 #241

That's also funny rpannier Feb 2015 #249

Are you under the impression that everyone attending the speech Beaverhausen Feb 2015 #98

who pays for a speech given to students at a university? unless some private party made ND-Dem Feb 2015 #102

The university has a budget for speakers Beaverhausen Feb 2015 #107

Where do you think that budget money comes from? Unless it comes from some billionaire's ND-Dem Feb 2015 #115

Should universities not have speakers? Beaverhausen Feb 2015 #128

Moving the goalposts now? ND-Dem Feb 2015 #134

No I'm not. Beaverhausen Feb 2015 #143

you didn't answer the question i asked you. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #148

Poster pretends to not know that universities have major funders and endowments for such things Hekate Feb 2015 #155

Students see speakers for free at my school. tammywammy Feb 2015 #158

I did specify "little or nothing" for the students. UCSB has a terrific Arts & Lectures program.... Hekate Feb 2015 #176

I love the speakers they bring in at my school. tammywammy Feb 2015 #179

Go as often as you can. It's great exposure for you. Hekate Feb 2015 #183

well, i suppose we'd have to check out each university individually to see exactly where ND-Dem Feb 2015 #192

Riders also tend to include weird requests. joshcryer Feb 2015 #123

Hillary is selling future favors for $300,000. The 1% are buying future favors for $300,000. That's whereisjustice Feb 2015 #105

If you didn't know it before, you know it now: your OP is complete bullshit. onenote Feb 2015 #248

What misleading Bullshit. There's backers and there's voters, and they're not the same. Hekate Feb 2015 #108

#accurate... Agschmid Feb 2015 #130

she's 5'7". not exactly 'short' for a woman. she's a couple of inches taller than the US average ND-Dem Feb 2015 #184

Its even more bullshit than that. Her speech was funded by a University endowment onenote Feb 2015 #226

This message was self-deleted by its author onenote Feb 2015 #228

the truth hurts olddots Feb 2015 #109

Salt of the Earth. Worth watching. JEB Feb 2015 #112

+1000 DeSwiss Feb 2015 #125

Yep, blacklisted. JEB Feb 2015 #136

I think most of the people in the film were non-professionals. But Grandpa Walton was in it. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #177

Thanks for the info. JEB Feb 2015 #225

I watched it some time ago. zeemike Feb 2015 #149

HRC - An Economic Royalist At Heart cantbeserious Feb 2015 #154

Pillows and chairs and water, oh my. Jamastiene Feb 2015 #187

I don't mind her getting paid for speaking, but I sure mind the quid pro quo. Scuba Feb 2015 #193

What quid pro quo brooklynite Feb 2015 #194

Bwahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Sure, Goldman and Citi pay her to fill seats. Yeah, that's it. Scuba Feb 2015 #195

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Do you think there was a quid pro quo for her speaking at UCLA onenote Feb 2015 #247

Don't kid yourself. There's always a quid pro quo. Scuba Feb 2015 #252

what was Kofi Annan's? onenote Feb 2015 #253

I wonder what Bernie would demand. Dawgs Feb 2015 #200

Tap water in a paper cup, a crust of dry bread, a hard bench, a light shining in his eyes. Hekate Feb 2015 #242

No problem with this what so ever Godhumor Feb 2015 #202

IMO, it's unfortunate for Democrats and Americans in general that ladjf Feb 2015 #205

*THUD*... SidDithers Feb 2015 #206

By comparison. Savannahmann Feb 2015 #213

Where is reality, whereisjustice? randome Feb 2015 #215

When you have to distort to make your point, you probably don't have a point worth making onenote Feb 2015 #219

Thanks for the facts Beaverhausen Feb 2015 #236

Oh, facts. OP and Echo are impervious to them; it must be their superpower. Hekate Feb 2015 #244

Thank you! betsuni Feb 2015 #255

Your concern is noted. wyldwolf Feb 2015 #222

That fee pales in comparison to some celebrity fee's.... Historic NY Feb 2015 #223

Al Gore, $100,000-150,000 wyldwolf Feb 2015 #224

All celebrities have "riders" of some sort bigwillq Feb 2015 #227

One more time for clarity 's sake: the $300,000 was paid out of an endowment. Tickets were free onenote Feb 2015 #230

...The speech was a fundraiser. Tickets cost $100 and up. Attendance was about 1800 because ND-Dem Feb 2015 #237

Correct. A fundraiser for UCLA, not Clinton. onenote Feb 2015 #246

Yes. A real "middle class hero"!!! LMAOF!!!! mylye2222 Feb 2015 #233

Um, okay, Hil KamaAina Feb 2015 #235

+1 whereisjustice Feb 2015 #254

dragging up an article from Nov. of last year I see OKNancy Feb 2015 #239

Does one have to her as YRH (Your Royal Highness)? hifiguy Feb 2015 #245

Because we need overpaid Wall Street shills stumping for overpaid Wall Street CEOs, Hillary whereisjustice Feb 2015 #251

How come they always refer to the middle class but akbacchus_BC Feb 2015 #258