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vi5

(13,305 posts)
5. A few things:
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 02:59 PM
Feb 2015

1) A lot of these seem very specific to one candidate in particular and not women in general.

2) Most of the time the "but" as far as women and children's issues comes from defenders, after people point out how atrocious that certain someone's foreign and economic policies are. So at that point a person is forced to concede that "but". I've rarely if ever seen it come out of the blue an dismissed at the outset. And I'm all for this as long as when that person's foreign policy and economic positions are discussed and taken issue with, that in defense of them the supporter doesn't play that same card. Deal?

3) You admit yourself that men's physical appearances get mocked all the time but.....for some reason that doesn't count? I don't get it? How many times has McConnells neck and physical appearance been mocked by calling him "turtle"? How many times does Chris Christie's weight get talked about? I'm not sure you, me or anyone in particular gets to decided which physical attributes are o.k. to talk about and which ones aren't, do we? If so let me know when the meetings are so I can be sure to make the next one.

4) To answer your question, yes a lot of people at the time he was running made comments about Kerry's wife and her money and her connections.

Um, #2 = Hillary Clinton. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #1
I think it's the "...but..." that's a problem. And I agree. PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #2
What's the problem with 'but'? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #6
All of this! hifiguy Feb 2015 #8
See the forest as well as the trees---it makes finding solutions a lot easier. McCamy Taylor Feb 2015 #12
I agree - TBF Feb 2015 #30
It minimizes everything before it. PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #10
No, I don't. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #14
mmm hmm. you disagree. noted. PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #15
I kind of agree with you, but when used on "women's issues" for a female candidate it does cui bono Feb 2015 #17
+1 nt F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #29
It isn't just Clinton. Sen. Nelson in Texas Senate (GOP) is very interested in "women's issues" McCamy Taylor Feb 2015 #4
DU Rec. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2015 #3
A few things: vi5 Feb 2015 #5
IMHO every mention of Christie's weight deserves censure. It is a mean, rude attack. McCamy Taylor Feb 2015 #9
Disagree strongly. Obesity is well-documented as correlating with very high mortality. closeupready Feb 2015 #13
Evidently women need EXTRA protection Major Nikon Mar 2015 #43
K&R. I have nothing to add to your excellent OP. MineralMan Feb 2015 #7
Yes, exactly what you said. kiva Feb 2015 #11
#2 doesn't compute. progressoid Feb 2015 #16
"John Kerry has his wife's money" Really? nichomachus Feb 2015 #18
Well that's really nitpicking. Just substitute another example that works for you then. cui bono Feb 2015 #25
I think everyone should just express themselves freely, and not worry about dissentient Feb 2015 #19
Um.... no. cui bono Feb 2015 #22
Yes, then they can be banned if they say racist stuff. Better that, then they try and be sneaky dissentient Feb 2015 #23
But there are many people who aren't really racist or sexist but say things that are offensive cui bono Feb 2015 #24
Yes, I agree that free and open communication is best dissentient Feb 2015 #26
The N word is a good example of how that works. zeemike Feb 2015 #33
Agree. I don't need anyone making rules for me on this site except Skinner. HERVEPA Feb 2015 #27
I agree, good point! I think the ones in charge should declare it when they want new rules for the dissentient Feb 2015 #28
So I can post "cracker redneck troll" without any fear? McCamy Taylor Feb 2015 #37
Rec. Also just wanted to point out a typo in case you want to fix it... cui bono Feb 2015 #20
Who's doing that? Iggo Feb 2015 #21
No one, that I've seen Oilwellian Feb 2015 #31
I personally saw a variation of #3 on DU herding cats Feb 2015 #34
Check one of my OP's and scroll down. Unless the writer deleted it. "Good on women and children McCamy Taylor Feb 2015 #38
Honestly, in a duscussion of a candidate I don't think the "but" negates what was said before. cui bono Feb 2015 #39
Funny, the same argument could be made about mental illness and how stigma of it is promoted HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #32
do you mean more friendly to Hillary? because I have not seen any of these on du Doctor_J Feb 2015 #35
Where were you during the 2008 primaries? Jamastiene Mar 2015 #42
I've been here since 2001 and your statement is ridiculous Doctor_J Mar 2015 #44
Congratulation, you just trashed an ally. BeanMusical Mar 2015 #45
Modest suggestions? winter is coming Feb 2015 #36
You just keep plugging away, McCamy. KnR Hekate Mar 2015 #40
What gets me is that some of the same people who did things like post Jamastiene Mar 2015 #41
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