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xmas74

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38. You said you were unfamiliar with Sagan.

Thu Feb 26, 2015, 10:34 PM

Feb 2015

I still don't know how that happened. I remember learning about him when I was in school (granted, this was when the first Cosmos had aired). My child knows about him and said they've discussed him before in classes. Heck, in the past year he's been discussed quite a bit because of Neil Degrasse Tyson updating his classic series Cosmos. Cosmos aired on numerous networks and was considered to be one of the best series of the year by many critics.

Carl Sagan was beloved by many. He was a genius. His work still holds and he inspired many young boys and girls to further their studies in science. What I don't understand is why you would throw out a few random quotes by Sagan without understanding a bit about him or the context.

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$7.4M settlement awarded Monday to former mayor of Excelsior Springs, MO for vaccine injury. [View all] proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 OP

one precaution for vaccinations too often overlooked hopemountain Feb 2015 #1

Dr Schutte's grandson is having his childhood vaccinations in spaced out doses. Anyone name-calling? proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #2

If it was related to multiple vaccines at once, it isn't so much a "freak accident." pnwmom Feb 2015 #5

nothing wrong with having vaccines spaced apart. nt hopemountain Feb 2015 #3

I think that is often a good idea. The only reason children's vaccines are clumped together pnwmom Feb 2015 #4

A possible solution suggests itself KamaAina Feb 2015 #46

That isn't a bad idea. And in drugstores, where they have flu vaccines. pnwmom Feb 2015 #50

Most drug stores are in shopping centers KamaAina Feb 2015 #53

Think again: "Drive Thru Medicine, SIRVA, & the Vaccine Court" proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #58

The disadvantage is that you are unprotected against certain diseases for longer. The advantage is LeftishBrit Feb 2015 #42

agreed - and your points are well taken. hopemountain Feb 2015 #44

The reaction this woman had may have been from too many vaccines at once KamaAina Feb 2015 #48

But the point you just mentioned is the key point. When there are multiple vaccines pnwmom Mar 2015 #62

Anti-vaxxers at DU should be treated the same as chemtrailers...nt SidDithers Feb 2015 #6

He is not an anti-vaxxer KamaAina Feb 2015 #20

No, but the OP is.... SidDithers Feb 2015 #22

I did not know that KamaAina Feb 2015 #23

IMO, out of context. Actually I'm unfamiliar with Sagan. Here, please judge for yourself. proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #29

You really don't know who Carl Sagan is? xmas74 Feb 2015 #30

Hey, did I say that? I thought I said I'm unfamiliar with his work except superficially. proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #32

You said you were unfamiliar with Sagan. xmas74 Feb 2015 #38

What a... KamaAina Feb 2015 #33

I still miss Sagan. xmas74 Feb 2015 #39

A copy of Cosmos was my prize at high school graduation. KamaAina Feb 2015 #40

Now that's a great present. xmas74 Feb 2015 #41

Yup... SidDithers Feb 2015 #34

Well now that Andrew Wakefield has been COMPLETELY discredited zappaman Feb 2015 #45

+1,000,000 ... 000 HuckleB Feb 2015 #51

You ask if anyone is name-calling? trumad Feb 2015 #7

BINGO! What schedule? Go global & define "don't vaccinate their children." What does that mean? proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #9

Let me put ithe in simple words... trumad Feb 2015 #10

Consider that you might be living in a bubble (reliable info vacuum) & that it's UNSUSTAINABLE. proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #16

blah blah blah... trumad Feb 2015 #18

are you a medical professional? hopemountain Feb 2015 #24

He played one on TV. 840high Feb 2015 #27

are you an anti-vaxxer? trumad Feb 2015 #28

wrong. hopemountain Feb 2015 #35

I'm not but my aunt is xmas74 Feb 2015 #31

what do you do for a living again? snooper2 Feb 2015 #36

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #37

When they say "accident" do they know what caused this? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2015 #8

It's very rare, but some people can have severe reactions. Avalux Feb 2015 #11

Having travelled to manyundesirable location Telcontar Feb 2015 #14

It is possible to have a vaccine stored under improper conditions, pnwmom Mar 2015 #63

It's a very small risk, but for those who "hit the bad luck jackpot" it is small comfort. Liberal Veteran Feb 2015 #12

Not a bit but it doesn't mean we must insist no one is allergic to penicillin TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #13

Well, we don't. That is why there is a vaccine injury compensation program. Liberal Veteran Feb 2015 #15

I said nothing about going to the drawing board at all but blowing off people's lives, setting up TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #21

I agree. Balance is everything. That is why I usually try to look at the overall picture. Liberal Veteran Feb 2015 #25

Jackpot for him, not so much for his wife. n/t dilby Feb 2015 #17

That's why I called it the "bad luck jackpot". It wasn't referring to the compensation. Liberal Veteran Feb 2015 #19

Andrew Wakefield is still a crank. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #26

Very sad. I wonder if one of the vaccines that she needed for travel was the yellow fever vaccine? LeftishBrit Feb 2015 #43

Do you still think Andrew Wakefield is the next Carl Sagan? zappaman Feb 2015 #47

Do you still think you can ignore the science with one-liners & reframe the issue as ALL OR NOTHING? proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #49

The vaccine schedule is safe, and this doesn't change that. HuckleB Feb 2015 #52

A multigenerational report of adverse reactions here (link from Twitter). proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #54

And more of the usual anti-vaccine conspiracy BS. HuckleB Mar 2015 #55

Show some decency, that's absolutely ludicrous. The source is the Charlotte Observer: READ IT. (nt) proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #56

You never show anyone decency. HuckleB Mar 2015 #57

Anyone who reads can see you're wrong, IMO. (nt) proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #59

Whoa, huge controversy about recent reporting in Canada's largest daily newspaper, The Toronto Star. proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #60

Just looking for recent Menendez/autism news on Google and this popped up. Was it reported anywhere? proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #61