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freshwest

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39. I agree with both of you strongly. Also note the higher consistency of GOP as conservative vs. those
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 03:20 AM
Mar 2015

Last edited Sun Mar 1, 2015, 08:15 AM - Edit history (1)

Kos is calling liberal. I'm not buying it for a second. although I like that he says there is no generational divide, the rest of the graph doesn't prove what he says. And Pew is by no means one of the less reliable polling groups, either.

The Libertarian brand is strong among youth as a version of rebellion against the status quo and that's not a bad thing. It's perfectly normal, but it doesn't alway lead to a liberal outcome. Most generations had that period in their life and some or us have never left it because there is wrongdoing in this world that must be resisted. But isn't the same kind of revolution occuring people that we want to have.

Conservative youth groups, even extremely radical conservative groups now surround us around the globe, but some are in deep denial about that. ISIS is not for old people. Aryan skinheads, Neo Nazis, Boko Harum, Putin youth and other radical groups are undeniably YOUNG.

Some progressive and liberals think that younger people will pledge to the ideals they have, when there is no sign of them doing any such thing. The rebranding of conversative, Bircher ideology works very well. It's trendy to be an Infowarrior or go with other such believers. They have found a new truth for the young... haha.

But they are unwittingly supporting the Koch view of the future, which is unabashedly conservative in results, and they are loving it. Kos is whistling by the graveyard like most have been for years. Mainly with knee jerk cries of outrage and stunned disbelief at what CONS are doing to America.

The CONS do not hide what they are doing when they get in power, and they are hiding less of it as they have gotten more as they run for office now. Many who say they 'would never dare because it's crazy, inhumane or sociopathic,' need to take off their rose-colored glasses and face what's up.

Additionally, reading the comments were complaints about voting nor being made easy enough for youth to get out to vote. One said that it SHOULD be made easier and THEN they would vote.

What's with this SHOULD be when it's us who must MAKE it be? Who is to make it easier when the GOP is in charge of most states, deliberately making it so hard? Not those who complain about how hard it is to vote. They didn't vote before, and now don't understand why it's hard?

It was youth and people of all ages who got out and voted Barack Obama, some of them waiting all night in adverse weather, and it was NOT EASY.

And for those waiting for 'that special someone' to bother to get out and vote, those people are easy to vote for getting online with 'American Idol' where it's made easy to vote for corporate entertainers and begging contestants. The spectacle is degrading to the performers, and people don't realize it, they think it's how life should be.

Politicans are not rock stars or celebrities. But that's pretty much what people are demanding. And while their views may be liberal, it doesn't mean they're going to vote for a liberal politican. As they have been convinced there is no difference in the two main parties.

That has been a constant Libertarian refrain for decades. Because the other two main parties are not Libertarian, thus they're the same to them. But they may complete their conquest of the GOP soon. And apathy always serves the status quo.

JMHO.

"Liberal" Republicans Bagsgroove Feb 2015 #1
I suspectyou are correct ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #13
I agree with both of you strongly. Also note the higher consistency of GOP as conservative vs. those freshwest Mar 2015 #39
One day those libertarians will get laid and then their political thoughts will mature FSogol Feb 2015 #31
Looks more like they are f'd with all age groups. Kalidurga Feb 2015 #2
Ron Paul is the only one that I see that could threaten the demographic trends JonLP24 Feb 2015 #3
Do people grow into conservatism? CincyDem Feb 2015 #4
AFAIK, ideology doesn't shift much with age eridani Feb 2015 #5
yeah - there's the idea that we are who we are at age 26. CincyDem Feb 2015 #7
Conformists. They "believe" what most people in their social group believe. tblue37 Feb 2015 #25
True, that is it. My liberal roots come from a family who came of age in the Great Depression. freshwest Mar 2015 #40
I agree, it's an open question Bagsgroove Feb 2015 #6
Not so much grow as indoctrinated n2doc Feb 2015 #9
Studies I have seen have shown that the Millenial Generation are voting MORE Democratic mikekohr Feb 2015 #12
At the age of 73 I see what you are saying. However, in the elections of the past - from FDR to jwirr Feb 2015 #17
No, but liberalism can be eroded away Scootaloo Feb 2015 #26
Good question, and one I often muse about Populist_Prole Feb 2015 #32
I have to agree.... essaynnc Feb 2015 #8
How do we get the Millennials and Gen-ex people to vote? CanonRay Feb 2015 #10
Let them vote on their iPhone. vanlassie Feb 2015 #11
Appeal to their concerns? n/t tazkcmo Feb 2015 #15
Now that's just crazy talk Scootaloo Feb 2015 #28
Yet they don't care about our concerns treestar Feb 2015 #30
Very good question. This week when we won the net neutrality issue my grandson told me that this jwirr Feb 2015 #19
I suggest looking at the States where they did not 'stay home' and considering what those States Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #22
They are disenfranchising themselves. hay rick Feb 2015 #29
Now if only they would vote. RBInMaine Feb 2015 #14
As we grow older Cryptoad Feb 2015 #16
I don't know, the DNC allows FUD etc to homogenize the parties too much uponit7771 Feb 2015 #18
not unless the national democratic party 1) adopts a liberal agenda and Doctor_J Feb 2015 #20
The GOP is losing an entire generation Gothmog Feb 2015 #21
Yup the GOP is Fucked, but so is the Democrats. No one I know in those Katashi_itto Feb 2015 #23
And young people also like Hillary.. DCBob Feb 2015 #24
the GOP has a plan, a good one guillaumeb Feb 2015 #27
"The original intent of the Founders, by the way. " That's a myth, btw. AverageJoe90 Feb 2015 #33
I threw that one in guillaumeb Feb 2015 #34
True, but we must be careful not to combat myth with myth.....nt AverageJoe90 Feb 2015 #35
This is definitely a significant part of their plan. nt hifiguy Feb 2015 #36
"This chart also shows the death of the conservative Democrat" malokvale77 Feb 2015 #37
It doesn't matter a bit if they don't vote. kiva Feb 2015 #38
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