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In reply to the discussion: Ya Know... I'm Re-Thinking My Views On A Military Draft... And I Want A Lottery... Like Vietnam... [View all]Brother Buzz
(36,569 posts)24. But, but Rumsfeld told us dumb draftees, we added no value, no advantage, to the armed services
Rumsfeld said draftees "were sucked into the intake, trained for a period of months and then went out, adding no value, no advantage really, to the United States Armed Services over any sustained period of time, because (of) the churning that took place -- it took an enormous amount of effort in terms of training and then they were gone."
We veterans of the Army of the United States (AUS) were sure steamed when that ass said those words and fortunately my drinking buddy, Agent Mike, talked me out of acting on what I was thinking at the time.
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Ya Know... I'm Re-Thinking My Views On A Military Draft... And I Want A Lottery... Like Vietnam... [View all]
WillyT
Mar 2015
OP
Both Charlie Rangel and John Conyers have articulated similar views on the topic.
MADem
Mar 2015
#32
But that's why we ended the draft -- because it made it too easy to supply hundreds of thousands
pnwmom
Mar 2015
#42
A brilliant general named Giap and the forces under his command may have had something
KingCharlemagne
Mar 2015
#75
Why would anyone think this congress would pass a fair and equitable draft? Why not work towards
uppityperson
Mar 2015
#4
This dumb draftee is against it but the late Colonel Hackworth had some thoughts on a citizens' army
Brother Buzz
Mar 2015
#7
And they tend to want to get the war over as soon as possible and go home. n/t
PoliticAverse
Mar 2015
#12
But, but Rumsfeld told us dumb draftees, we added no value, no advantage, to the armed services
Brother Buzz
Mar 2015
#24
Hackworth. Hmmmm. I'm sure the Boorda family has some things to say about that guy,
MADem
Mar 2015
#33
Lottery caused me to 'enlist to avoid the draft' probably not quite right to say volunteer
HereSince1628
Mar 2015
#18
They need bodies and tech though. Tie those hands up by any and all means.
TheKentuckian
Mar 2015
#43
You think poor and middle class kids aren't in battle now? Ever heard of "the economic draft"?
ND-Dem
Mar 2015
#38
Well... Then Let's Just Give Up On The System... Democracy Is On Life-Support... Close To Death...
WillyT
Mar 2015
#28
Charlie Rangel has been trying to reinstate the draft since the Iraq War began.
Renew Deal
Mar 2015
#39
"and more than 10 million signed up" - I don't think you understand "the draft".
Warren Stupidity
Mar 2015
#70
It was a very bizarre choice of words, so good on you to flag it. Perhaps this
KingCharlemagne
Mar 2015
#79
Yes I understand it....and yes they were drafted...signing up also mean registering..
Historic NY
Mar 2015
#86
Anyone who thinks that our government cares what we think about war is seriously delusional.
djean111
Mar 2015
#44
Your post makes me very sad. It describes the milieu where I grew up (southwestern
KingCharlemagne
Mar 2015
#80
Absent surprize attack, War Powers should reside in the hands of those of service age.
Thor_MN
Mar 2015
#48
Those segregated units did a lot for social changes for the black draftees
Brother Buzz
Mar 2015
#52
The editorial that was allowed to run in Stars & Stripes, I think, began a lot of change here
Algernon Moncrieff
Mar 2015
#54
Jackie Robinson's 'Rosa Parks' moment is a good illustration that people can wrap their heard around
Brother Buzz
Mar 2015
#58
Um, the Union used military conscription during the U.S. Civil War (and so did
KingCharlemagne
Mar 2015
#81
WRT to the Civil War, John Brown on the eve of his execution said it best:
KingCharlemagne
Mar 2015
#88