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In reply to the discussion: I'm gonna say it: I think cops could have been shot by RW agitators [View all]Glassunion
(10,201 posts)368. I'm still thinking that it's a R'winger.
Just my opinion. I've been wrong in the past.
It screams of someone taking advantage of the situation.
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If you think most cops are killed by RW extremists you're not looking living in reality
davidsilver
Mar 2015
#432
Yeah, but it wasn't Donald Duck or African Americans who had their sights on LEOs at the Bundy ranch
notadmblnd
Mar 2015
#145
I didn't report anything, but other than that, you are correct. The OP expressed himself and so did
FSogol
Mar 2015
#63
DHS Report. Police chiefs based their article and current training guidelines on it, too.
blm
Mar 2015
#243
I've noticed. It's not beneath them to lie and cheat in order to further their
BlueCaliDem
Mar 2015
#179
Yes, to your last sentence. It's not like we are forming domestic US policy here, lol.
closeupready
Mar 2015
#475
There would be no such speculation about cops IF they had not earned the distrust of the people
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#89
The fact that that police department sucks has nothing to do with the speculation exhibited in
FSogol
Mar 2015
#106
And the fact that the cops tried to tie the incident to the protesters immediately
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#120
Not true. I agree that the shots didn't come from the protesters. My opinion is not based on
FSogol
Mar 2015
#129
Right Wing groups and cops are natural allies. Many cops belong to these groups.
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#148
I don't understand why you are preaching this to me. I said skip the speculation let's get some
FSogol
Mar 2015
#160
You admonished the OP for speculating. People responded to your admonishment
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#175
Here's some speculation: was the original investigation into Mike Brown's extra-judicial execution
KingCharlemagne
Mar 2015
#241
There was a time when you wouldn't see that kind of speculation, people have wised up
NoJusticeNoPeace
Mar 2015
#122
I don't think anyone believes the protesters were responsible for the shootings. n/t
FSogol
Mar 2015
#131
one would think that seriously injured officers would spend more than several hours in the hospital
notadmblnd
Mar 2015
#169
Again, one would think that SERIOUSLY injured officers would spend more than several hours
notadmblnd
Mar 2015
#481
"civilians are shot and killed on an alarmingly frequent basis in this country"
pintobean
Mar 2015
#251
Oh, you are talking about regular criminals who murder people every day. I was talking about those
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#337
What's wrong with pure speculation when you are speculating? Isn't that done quite a lot on DU?
Elmer S. E. Dump
Mar 2015
#146
Police chiefs agree that RW extremists are the greatest threat to their personal safety.
blm
Mar 2015
#8
hich I think, would require a degree of accuracy not common to the ordinary protester.
LanternWaste
Mar 2015
#51
And yet, that is exactly what protesters, eye witnesses were tweeting last night.
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#157
I didn't go there. Save the 'we' for those who did. My basis is police chief report.
blm
Mar 2015
#12
Sniper shooting by definition, if the shooter(s) not close by. I agree. This isn't a meme, just
leveymg
Mar 2015
#7
Eye witness reported the source as "500 feet away up the hill." There was another report that
leveymg
Mar 2015
#200
This appears to have been a sniper attack, not an ambush. See my comments #284 below.
leveymg
Mar 2015
#287
At this point I'd like to know the caliber of the shots fired & if they can tell the type weapon
7962
Mar 2015
#276
Recent police chief report says RW extremist are the GREATEST threat facing officers today.
blm
Mar 2015
#15
are you confused? that is decidedly NOT evidence for your CT theory. Your post belongs in
cali
Mar 2015
#57
uh no. I said nothing of the sort. and you sure as shit wouldn't make a decent investigator
cali
Mar 2015
#99
Wow. lol - your authoritarian bias is really strong in this thread. blm did NOT make a decision
closeupready
Mar 2015
#127
What are you, her mother? Cali can respond to my post as she sees fit. As for you,
closeupready
Mar 2015
#133
I have 3x your post volume and 6 years on membership here at DU. Thus, I know better
closeupready
Mar 2015
#137
then you damned well know better than to make that accusation. repugnant to make false claims.
cali
Mar 2015
#144
you're familiar enough with my posts to know that sticking up for the authorities
cali
Mar 2015
#142
His thinking is 100% logical! I am a professional logician, and can attest to that fact.
Elmer S. E. Dump
Mar 2015
#182
lol. no, it's my bias against thories that are devised to fit preferred narratives.
cali
Mar 2015
#139
I see. So attempts to instigate race wars has never happened in your universe?
closeupready
Mar 2015
#161
That's EXACTLY WHY he is speculating! Did he say he KNOWS it was a RWer? NO.
Elmer S. E. Dump
Mar 2015
#173
Speculation doesn't require evidence. And I find nothing wrong with his speculation.
Elmer S. E. Dump
Mar 2015
#168
I can't believe you think that's evidence for your little theory. It ain't. not close.
cali
Mar 2015
#61
one more time, blm: I never said any such thing. pathetic attempt to shy away from producing
cali
Mar 2015
#102
He's not coming from a hill, he's coming from a grassy knoll, silly./NT
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2015
#21
You may think that's hilarious, but, my suspicion is in line with police chiefs' report.
blm
Mar 2015
#25
I give you a +1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000!
Elmer S. E. Dump
Mar 2015
#191
please provide those statistics. And it's wild speculation because you have NO evidence.
cali
Mar 2015
#68
How good does your aim have to be in order to shoot into a crowd and hit someone in the crowd?
jberryhill
Mar 2015
#85
The problem is that we do not know what the shooter was attempting to accomplish
jberryhill
Mar 2015
#293
I think that would be a convenient thing to believe to fit the narrative we all want.
Kurska
Mar 2015
#29
First - I didn't say it's already proven. I offered the possibility based on DHS stats
blm
Mar 2015
#88
You said there have been more but you refuse to provide any evidence or numbers
hack89
Mar 2015
#416
Go look them up, Las Vegas, Texas, Penn, Florida - You're just effin around at this point.
blm
Mar 2015
#419
Dead is dead. Split hairs all you want but terrorists are the least of a cops daily threats. nt
hack89
Mar 2015
#453
I don't know, but is it possible - well in Nevada last year, those two were far right-wing agitators
closeupready
Mar 2015
#36
Don't worry - most of those who've chimed in with one-liners are the same ones
closeupready
Mar 2015
#93
the rw is clearly at fault and they could have done this to increase gun sales
samsingh
Mar 2015
#45
Jury gets another one wrong, as an anonymous "please!" is quite persuasive.
closeupready
Mar 2015
#54
ALERT ABUSE. Someone wants DU to shut up off all conversation except official announcements.
leveymg
Mar 2015
#295
You can bet the FBI is "creatively speculating" too. That's their job.
Elmer S. E. Dump
Mar 2015
#199
Let's hope they use the appropriate forum (creative speculation) for such tasks. nt
OnyxCollie
Mar 2015
#404
It's speculation. Having said that, rightwingers are generally quicker to resort to violence to try
GoneFishin
Mar 2015
#72
So cops are a bigger danger to cops than sovereign citizens or ISIS? Talk about absurd logic.
Elmer S. E. Dump
Mar 2015
#204
That the FBI had information on someone planning to engage in sniper attacks against OWS.
NuclearDem
Mar 2015
#114
Somehow in all of this FBI evilness they still manage to release an incriminating doc IMMEDIATELY
Dreamer Tatum
Mar 2015
#299
Wow, you realize that article does in no way confirm your spin of an FBI plot.
NuclearDem
Mar 2015
#331
LOL! I see the Flat Earth Society chimed in about the horrors of you having an opinion!
Rex
Mar 2015
#94
Opine away, but if you don't provide any evidence for a theory, you're gonna get shit.
cali
Mar 2015
#105
Oh I will! I won't let some authoritarians tell me what I can and cannot do on this site.
Rex
Mar 2015
#119
no one has told you any such thing. I have a particular bias against people trying to
cali
Mar 2015
#147
Yep. I don't mind admitting to speculation. My basis is knowledge of the personalities involved and
GoneFishin
Mar 2015
#220
Yes. The concept of honesty and fair play is foreign to them, or they consider it to be a weakness
GoneFishin
Mar 2015
#308
You keep rattling on about statistics supporting your, uh, theory, but won't post them.
cali
Mar 2015
#108
He never said it was a theory - give it up! You are being very disingenuous.
Elmer S. E. Dump
Mar 2015
#223
Your post, I can still see it LOL I remember someone who suggested the cops started the fires
NoJusticeNoPeace
Mar 2015
#111
I can see an anarchist doing it also, along with an angry person who hates cops
still_one
Mar 2015
#162
It was his contemporaneous remarks that I did my best to transcribe at approximately 11:10 A.M. PST
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2015
#176
Who would have more motivation to sow discord? African Americans or disgruntled right wingers?
notadmblnd
Mar 2015
#174
I resent irresponsible speculation about very serious matters, particularly when they're nearby.
ColesCountyDem
Mar 2015
#330
My concerns are no different than law enforcement's. There was nothing irresponsible in the
blm
Mar 2015
#335
The law enforcement actually INVOLVED in the investigation has alluded to nothing of the sort.
ColesCountyDem
Mar 2015
#341
I suspect that while they considered many possibilities, they had the good sense not to speculate.
ColesCountyDem
Mar 2015
#353
It was irresponsible, because you had exactly ZERO evidence that RW-ers were involved.
ColesCountyDem
Mar 2015
#379
Too many thick heads in this thread. Might as well move on before my head explodes.
Elmer S. E. Dump
Mar 2015
#233
Now if only cali was interested enough to read it, but her mind seems closed on the issue.
Elmer S. E. Dump
Mar 2015
#259
Interesting, that - she comes in, creates drama and noise, demanding statistics and facts,
closeupready
Mar 2015
#267
Well if there was some report that said that rw extremists are are a threat to police
DesMoinesDem
Mar 2015
#248
Oh, so the report just says RW extremists are guilty of this particular shooting?
DesMoinesDem
Mar 2015
#254
Oh, so you're not actually claiming that RW extremists did this shooting? What is the point
DesMoinesDem
Mar 2015
#265
Obviously you are trying to avoid answering my questions with your red herring.
DesMoinesDem
Mar 2015
#309
A report from 2009 from DHS is in no was relevant to a single shooting today.
DesMoinesDem
Mar 2015
#351
LOL. If all you could respond to from my post was one cherry picked word you have lost
DesMoinesDem
Mar 2015
#383
Really odd logic. Why don't you go have an ice cream cone or something?
Elmer S. E. Dump
Mar 2015
#261
Released from the hospital hours after getting shot in the face with a high-powered rifle? LOL
DesMoinesDem
Mar 2015
#270
"Why don't we wait" ... to what, have discussion on a discussion board? Reasonable.
closeupready
Mar 2015
#281
Disagree. Conspiracies, by definition, posit participation of more than one participant.
closeupready
Mar 2015
#288
The consideration of the possibility is based on REAL law enforcement concerns not theory...
blm
Mar 2015
#290
No, I didn't. My post is considering the possibility based on REAL law enforcement concerns.
blm
Mar 2015
#298
I like the fact that you don't take any of their bait and keep posting what you base your opinion on
Rex
Mar 2015
#306
And it is a TWO FER for the likely white supermacists who did the shooting, put blame on AfAm AND
NoJusticeNoPeace
Mar 2015
#355
I got to say, any number of things could have happened and I have no clue
TheKentuckian
Mar 2015
#387
It's totally a possibility and why can't we talk about it? We should just think it and not say a
Cha
Mar 2015
#405
Sorry... sounds like the same kind of "false flag" stuff the freepers are always advancing.
Adrahil
Mar 2015
#463
Why were they protesting the night the officers were shot? The police chief had just resigned and
B Calm
Mar 2015
#438
Soon as I heard about the shooting, I thought it had to be a right-wing extremist stirring up hatred
B Calm
Mar 2015
#451
On CNN a few minutes ago one of the guests suggested that the shooter could have been
malaise
Mar 2015
#446
Snort ... yeah, how about that? lol So funny - this thread is comedy gold
closeupready
Mar 2015
#466