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In reply to the discussion: If GMOs Are So Great, Then Label Them. [View all]petronius
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Pushing back against ridiculous misinformation is not the same as pushing GMOs.
NuclearDem
Mar 2015
#13
Such as? No one is telling pro-GMOers what to eat, they are free to eat GMOs if they wish.
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#19
I wonder if he ever learned how to spell 'tomato' the American way? After all, wasn't it he who
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#93
Yeah. The Republicans were united in their desire to keep consumers completely in the dark
Enthusiast
Mar 2015
#157
We ARE being told what to eat and we are being to just 'shut up' and eat it. Sorry, Dems don't take
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#99
Mad Cow disease demonstrated how untrustworthy corporations are and how much regulation is needed.
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#116
Yes we do have an idea of what some of the cause of BSE are. Animal feed has been identified as one
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#142
Notice how I didn't mention anything of the sort in the post he replied to.
NuclearDem
Mar 2015
#231
Try watching it again. And Europe isn't the only place where GMOs have been banned. In fact
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#233
BS. Most people who oppose GMOs are opposed to them for good reasons, and it has nothing to do
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#243
"Well let folks know whether their foods been genetically modified because Americans should know
Rex
Mar 2015
#229
Thanks for that. So sad, so many promises, offshore drilling, mandated insurance, GMOs
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#234
"they cannot examine whether the genetically modified crops lead to unintended environmental side
suffragette
Mar 2015
#306
And very out of date information (see post 299) that also ignores that entities like the EU have ...
HuckleB
Mar 2015
#313
Not a word in that article about superweeds or the possible extinction of Monarch butterflies
eridani
Mar 2015
#320
You can't stay on topic. You put up one BS argument, and it gets slapped down, and then...
HuckleB
Mar 2015
#322
The links said that herbicide resistance was linked to more glyphosphate, but not
eridani
Mar 2015
#345
The bans on GMOs in Europe are based on something very important, they are based on what
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#216
You'd be singing a different tune if the GOP managed to ban abortion in a state in the US.
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2015
#217
I thought we were talking food. Second time someone introduced an entirely different
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#219
Actually it is NOT a flaw in Democracy if the majority disagrees with me. That IS Democracy.
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#226
There is a significant cost delta in determining the caloric value of a food, versus
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2015
#132
Cut the Corporate salaries, the bonuses, and RAISE THEIR TAXES. We are talking about
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#251
Yes it does, and big companies pushing GMOS FORCED more costs on to us needing "organic" labeling...
cascadiance
Mar 2015
#150
Monsanto Announces $1.48 Billion Profit Amid 'Monsanto Protection Act' Controversy
Cha
Mar 2015
#259
I care about what I feed my family, ergo, I grow my own produce and meats.
Thinkingabout
Mar 2015
#5
Yes, that is what we do. We live in a farming community so can exchange products we grow
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#7
If you're not selling your products to other people, you don't have to label them. We do not sell
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#12
No, I do not sell, I am morethan happy to give to the older generation who isn't
Thinkingabout
Mar 2015
#15
I grow a bit of my own food, but I live in a city in which land is extremely expensive.
JDPriestly
Mar 2015
#69
Can't or just chose not to, it isn't easy work. I make the sacrifice for my family.
Thinkingabout
Mar 2015
#117
So the person living paycheck to paycheck, a week behind on the rent, is choosing not to buy
ScreamingMeemie
Mar 2015
#122
Sacrifices can be made, there are community gardens, I am not rich by any means.
Thinkingabout
Mar 2015
#141
If I lived in an apartment i would also be buying from the grocery store unless i
Thinkingabout
Mar 2015
#204
That's fine with me. We grow our own. We do not use insecticides, it's not necessary. Companion
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#14
Don't worry. We use our own seeds from last year. Don't tell Monsanto, they don't believe in
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#20
Lol, and the ultimate source of those seeds? (Likely mutagenesis or forced hybridization.)
X_Digger
Mar 2015
#44
Read Post #23 from Erich Bloodaxe BSN. You will find the answer in both of his/her posts.
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#53
I have passed blind taste tests. It's easy when you are accustomed to eating natural food.
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#79
I'm not worried about the water. We have lived in areas where the well water was contaminated
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#92
They're not ridiculous questions and it matters precisely because I am trying to highlight the ridic
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2015
#350
Thank you. And yes, the taste is totally different. But Monsanto wants to take away your
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#27
Lol, I can definitely relate to the animals. They 'know things' a lot of people don't know.
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#96
If I did that test in my yard, both would be stripped clean in an hour.
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2015
#106
I've done it with people. Only one was stripped clean once they had a choice.
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#131
If you don't know what a double-blind test is, this is a meaningless anecdote.
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2015
#134
I don't need to know to see that when given a choice between naturally grown corn, which is
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#145
Have you ever tasted corn grown naturally? I have, and by comparison, commercially grown corn is
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#237
I prefer the old blind groping in the dark method right now. It tastes better.
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#104
Except we don't know how much harm they are doing. And the natural way tastes a whole lot better.
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#110
You keep saying it tastes better, with zero proof to back that claim up.
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2015
#118
What we grow most definitely tastes better than store bought vegetables. We are not growing food for
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#123
I found his/her comments as interesting as yours. I guess you should add 'interesting to ME' since
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#221
Well, it's good you found both comments interesting, because his or hers was just an echo of mine.
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2015
#222
I generally find most comments interesting, in one way or another. I learn from what people
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#223
I don't understand why people cannot simply acknowledge that nature knows best and that
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#119
Nature naturally creates things that are fully lethal to humans, all the time.
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2015
#128
Yes, and smart humans educate themselves so they know the purpose of those natural
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#136
How many species are disappearing SINCE we began 'tinkering' with nature? Honey Bees eg. And we know
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#241
And every time a cause is found, such as the insecticides causing the disappearance of honey bees
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#287
I love the taste of radiated, cancer causing tomatoes. More profits. Lower quality...
immoderate
Mar 2015
#35
Depends on what you graft. Just shoots? Same dna (think roses at HD w/ wild rose roots).
X_Digger
Mar 2015
#41
Yes. As I understand it, apples need to be grafted or otherwise tampered with.
JDPriestly
Mar 2015
#72
Absolutely. If makers of GMO, God Move Over food are proud, then label the products! Easy.
appalachiablue
Mar 2015
#11
Where I come from, people do care, enough to grow their own products. In the EU an
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#22
As a recent, not so brilliant 'philosopher' once said 'fool me once, don't fool me again' or words
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#127
Yes, so the claim that the 'invisible hand' would take care of the market, was just as delusional
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#250
Before giving vaccines, doctors should be forced to say that some people believe they cause autism.
Orrex
Mar 2015
#30
They aren't labeled with GMO content.Just because their genetic differences aren't visible to the eye
pnwmom
Mar 2015
#43
What is the problem here? We have a RIGHT to know what our food supply consists of.
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#252
A long post filled with personal attacks. I wouldn't call that science, only
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#279
I stated my experience with Progmos going back years. I never met Republican who didn't argue FOR
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#308
I love it when I don't have to go searching for examples of what I just described.
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#314
I, did NOT accuse you of anything. If you have a problem with someone who did, do not
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#310
You eat food that has been sprayed with insecticides and you don't think that's a problem?
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#168
I know this, before accepting any medication from a doctor, I want to know what the side effects
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#38
You mentioned it. I was thinking, 'why are vaccines relevant to this thread' myself?
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#49
I was just describing all the ads we are getting on TV. Are we forbidden from mentioning
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#52
Does anyone recommend not telling people if a shot is a vaccine so that anti-vaxxers don't avoid it?
Chathamization
Mar 2015
#76
Yes, I agree your analogy was poor; maybe GMO-boosters will refrain from comparing GMOs to vaccines
Chathamization
Mar 2015
#113
No, you compared GMOs to vaccines then followed up saying they were nothing alike; which, I agree
Chathamization
Mar 2015
#147
Less than 7% of the population is anti-vax and less than 7% is against GMO labeling
GreatGazoo
Mar 2015
#296
Not much to know. Either the food is 'altered' genetically, in which case I don't want it, or it
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#40
I don't know, because they are not labeled. I would know, if they were. So my standard for judging a
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#51
If you only want to eat food labelled as "GM free", that's entirely your right.
Donald Ian Rankin
Mar 2015
#48
I don't care if the label them or not. Not my product. But I won't BUY unlabeled food. I absolutely
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#56
Lol, I noticed that. Decided it was too way out there to even try to understand.
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#64
It sounds like you are saying American's have no right to know what is in our food.
bvar22
Mar 2015
#193
You didn't just misunderstand me, you misunderstood genetic modification.
Donald Ian Rankin
Mar 2015
#258
Europeans label them. An overwhelming number of people in those countries demanded it.
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#60
True, regarding how much attention people pay to cigarette warnings. But food is a different thing.
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#63
"Stop asking what's in it. Just STFU and eat it!". An immoral and dishonest business
GoneFishin
Mar 2015
#66
Exactly. Americans are treated like children by their own government, viewed as too 'stupid to know
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#84
When that is your argument you bet your ass you are dealing with crooks and villains
TheKentuckian
Mar 2015
#149
I would rec this 60,000 if DU would allow me. Yes, if Gmos are so fabulous, label them!
Dont call me Shirley
Mar 2015
#81
This 2012 PSA by Food and Water Watch remains as relevant and funny as ever, IMO.
proverbialwisdom
Mar 2015
#85
FYI, the public is "moving the market" even without labels. Vote with every dollar you spend.
proverbialwisdom
Mar 2015
#88
Welcome to DU. Yes, you can post. Now what? Tell us about yourself, please.
uppityperson
Mar 2015
#102
I don't agree. Labeling is more akin to 'Beware of Vicious Dog' so long as there is a vicious dog on
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#107
What nonsense - do you really believe this, or are you being paid to post it here?
closeupready
Mar 2015
#124
Nutrition labels need to be removed; consumers can't be trusted to decide for themselves what they
Chathamization
Mar 2015
#143
I will actually admit that seeing calorie counts on menus has scared me out of eating
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Mar 2015
#159
Imagine if "big agra" financed an effort to label food that's been fertilized with cow shit
Major Nikon
Mar 2015
#169
The wonderful benefit of GMO corn is that it can be sprayed with extra glyphosate
GreatGazoo
Mar 2015
#267
Simple solution, don't buy un-labeled products. Like corn from the farmers market. Might be GMO. nt
Logical
Mar 2015
#112
I have a solution. Have some GMO company execs consume completely unlabeled food we prepare...
cascadiance
Mar 2015
#152
And you have to pay extra for "organic" labeling and validation processes too,
cascadiance
Mar 2015
#154
I think I'd trust "nonsense" that supports my argument published in Scientific American...
cascadiance
Mar 2015
#190
"The views expressed are those of the author and are not necessarily those of Scientific American."
Major Nikon
Mar 2015
#198
They have to get the seeds from Monsanto. Monsanto has final say over publication n/t
eridani
Mar 2015
#337
"only studies that the seed companies have approved ever see the light of a peer-reviewed journal"
eridani
Mar 2015
#344
I'm noticed that while those GMO free labels are popping up in a variety of places around the store
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Mar 2015
#160
The products you're seeing with GMO free labels must be 10 times as expensive, since I've been told
Chathamization
Mar 2015
#271
I agree, it would be a "selling" point, greatly sought after, perfectly fine & dandy.
mother earth
Mar 2015
#156
Pretty soon Monsanto will be bragging about helping with population control in India!
cascadiance
Mar 2015
#194
And if it passes, it would get overturned by TPP corporate courts if that passes!
cascadiance
Mar 2015
#209
Almost everything we eat has been genetically modified by man, through selective breeding.
cpwm17
Mar 2015
#212
This, ladies and gentlemen, is what is called the appeal to nature fallacy.
NuclearDem
Mar 2015
#247
I don't care what anyone else eats at all but I've been caring what I eat for a long time now
Cha
Mar 2015
#254
I completely agree with you, Cha. I don't get it. Why the desperate resistance to simply
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#256
The irony is that people put incredible amounts of crap and 'non-food' in their bodies every day.
randome
Mar 2015
#269
That's an excellent idea. I wonder why it hasn't been done? I just read that Hershey is
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#285
I didn't know that. Now I do so will add it to the ever growing list of products/food
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#304
Sorry if they've been asked and answered up-thread, but my questions are
whatchamacallit
Mar 2015
#297
I cannot think of a single 'principled' reason for denying the public the right to know what is in
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#325
There is no justification for labeling one seed development technology, but not all of them.
HuckleB
Mar 2015
#329
Let me ask you something There appears to be little doubt anymore that the disappearance of honey
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#336
You're going on and on about things that you can't support with a consensus of science.
HuckleB
Mar 2015
#339
Well, I gave you a chance and you blew it. I take Monsanto is ignoring the threat to our
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#341
Yes, it is! And the people have a right to have that label, as Europeans do.
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#351
Tactic # 22. When all attempts to defend the indefensible fail, post moronic animated emoticon.
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#356