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In reply to the discussion: Now We Know Why Huge TPP Trade Deal Is Kept Secret From The Public [View all]Hoyt
(54,770 posts)75. Michael Froman is the US Trade Representative, appointed by Obama. Each of the 12 countries involved
will have to approve any final document if they want to be part of the trade agreement. This assumes they can come to terms.
Somehow I can not image all 12 country's governments are trying to sell their people down the river, as people seem to believe ours is.
Each of the other countries appoint trade reps.
There are also advisory committees, that do not negotiate directly. Folks like to point out the corporations have advisers to our Trade Rep. That's true.
But there is also a Labor Advisory Committee with the following members:
Clayola Brown National President, A. Philip Randolph Institute (APRI)
Thomas Buffenbarger International President, International Association of Machinists & Aerospace Workers (IAM)
Jim Clark President, International Union of Electronic, Salaried, Machine and Furniture Workers (IUE)
Leo Gerard International President, United Steelworkers (USW)
Raymond Hair
President, American Federation of Musicians of the United States and Canada (AFM), AFL-CIO/CLC
Joseph T. Hansen President, United Food & Commercial Workers (UFCW)
Mary Kay Henry International President, Service Employees International Union (SEIU)
Ed Hill International President, International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW)
James P. Hoffa General President, International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT)
Ken Howard President, Screen Actors Guild/American Federation of Television and Radio Artists (SAG-AFTRA)
Gregory Junemann International President, International Federation of Professional & Technical Engineers (IFPTE)
Richard Kline President,Union Label & Service Trades Department, AFL-CIO
Lee Moak President, International Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA), AFL-CIO
Jorge Ramirez President, Chicago Federation of Labor
Cecil E. Roberts, Jr. President, United Mineworkers of America (UMWA)
Arturo Rodriguez President, United Farm Workers of America (UFW)
Sarah Nelson International President, Association of Flight Atendants, AFL-CIO (CWA)
Lee Saunders President, American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME)
Richard Trumka President, American Federation of Labor & Congress of Industrial Organizations (AFL-CIO)
Baldemar Velasquez President, Farm Labor Organizing Committee (FLOC)
Randi Weingarten President, American Federation of Teachers (AFT)
Dennis Williams President, United Automobile, Aerospace and Agricultural Implement Workers of America (UAW)
Forthcoming President, Transportation and Trades Department, AFL-CIO
And there is an Environmental Advisory Committee:
Joseph G. Block Retired Partner, Venable, Baetjer, Howard & Civiletti
Kitty Block Vice President, Humane Society of the United States
Jake Colvin Vice President of Global Trade Issues, National Foreign Trade Council
Vanessa Dick Deputy Director, US Government Relations, World Wildlife Fund
Jennifer Haverkamp Consultant
Trevor Houser Partner, Rhodium Group
Rhoda Karpatkin President Emeritus, Consumer's Union
Chris Lischewski Chief Executive Officer, Bumble Bee Seafoods LLC
Amanda Mayhew Senior Advisor, World Animal Protection
Glenn Prickett Chief External Affairs Officer, The Nature Conservancy
Peter Robinson President, U.S. Council for International Business
Lowell Rothschild Senior Counsel, Bracewell & Giuliani
James Salzman Professsor of Law, Duke University
Jeffrey J. Schott Senior Fellow, Peterson Institute for International Economics
Andrew F. Sharpless Chief Executive Officer, Oceana
Adam Siegel Vice President of Sustainability and Retail Operations
John Smirnow Vice President of Trade, Solar Energy Industries Association
Frances Smith Adjunct Fellow, Competitive Enterprise Institute
William J. Snape, III Board Member, Endangered Species Coalition
Cindy Squires Executive Director, International Wood Products Association
Alexander von Bismarck Executive Director, Environmental Investigation Agency (EIA)
Thomas Weirich Vice President Corporate Relations, American Council on Renewable Energy (ACORE)
Other Advisory Committees include:
From https://ustr.gov/about-us/advisory-committees
Advisory Committees
The advisory committee system, established by the U.S. Congress in 1974, was created to ensure that U.S. trade policy and trade negotiating objectives adequately reflect U.S. public and private sector interests. The advisory committee system consists of 28 advisory committees, with a total membership of approximately 700 citizen advisors.
USTR's Office of Intergovernmental Affairs & Engagement (IAPE) manages the advisory committee, in cooperation with other agencies, including the Departments of Agriculture, Commerce, and Labor, and the Environmental Protection Agency. IAPE is also designated as the state coordinator for the World Trade Organization and the North American Free Trade Agreement, and provides outreach to official state points of contact, governors, legislatures, and associations on all trade issues of interest to states.
IAPE frequently speaks with outside groups in order to build support for a robust trade agenda and creates materials for public distribution.
Advisory Committees
Advisory Committee for Trade Policy and Negotiations (ACTPN)
Agricultural Policy Advisory Committee (APAC)
Agricultural Technical Advisory Committee for Trade (ATAC)
Industry Trade Advisory Committees (ITAC)
Intergovernmental Policy Advisory Committee (IGPAC)
Labor Advisory Committee (LAC)
Trade Advisory Committee on Africa (TACA)
Trade and Environment Policy Advisory Committee (TEPAC)
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And this is just one chapter out of twenty-eight secret corporate-written chapters.
djean111
Mar 2015
#1
It was started under bush 1/reagan with nafta. TPP is a continuation of corporate globalization.
Dont call me Shirley
Mar 2015
#43
Call your Senators, Representatives and Whitehouse to express your opposition to this global
Dont call me Shirley
Mar 2015
#184
'was stalled in Congress under intense public pressure'. That was encouraging, that the public
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#89
We need make sure it is not a Secret, We need to organize a day to Reps on this Issue
lewebley3
Mar 2015
#4
It is TPP. Another, just as bad, IMO, currently negotiated agreement is the TTIP.
djean111
Mar 2015
#8
Saw reports from Europe also, major issues. TPP, Global Corporate Coup D'etat, for the 1%
appalachiablue
Mar 2015
#65
The other treaties as far as I know don't override national sovereignty. Also they are secret to us.
Rex
Mar 2015
#46
This is being molded by the major corporations for their benefit ast our expense. It's that simple.
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#144
How is this at our expense? What are we losing by corporations having access to other countries?
randome
Mar 2015
#166
Access to other countries doesn't necessarily hurt, but what the frack does "access"
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#173
Then he should vote 'No' as should everyone else who doesn't like the Investor definition.
randome
Mar 2015
#185
What possible difference does it make to know how negotiations went before ratification?
randome
Mar 2015
#52
Understandable but it doesn't preclude the need to beat China to the punch this time.
randome
Mar 2015
#168
Hope so for sure. In the other post now about no word from POTUS on TPP a poster
appalachiablue
Mar 2015
#86
No, it doesn't. Country E cannot impose high tariffs or bogus laws to keep a specific company out.
randome
Mar 2015
#53
I don't. Since only one part of the treaty has been leaked, we don't have the full picture.
randome
Mar 2015
#60
Klein is the same as you or me: he's making it up as he goes along with whatever info is available.
randome
Mar 2015
#71
And who will enforce these laws? What standing does a tribunal with one UN member have?
Rex
Mar 2015
#78
I would hope such things would be part of the consideration but so far I don't see any sign of it.
randome
Mar 2015
#57
Sure, it could work out that way. But let's see what the final draft has to say.
randome
Mar 2015
#198
"Fuck everyone who had anything to do with negotiating this monstrosity." Obama?
L0oniX
Mar 2015
#41
If you want to view trade dispute tribunals as ceding sovereignty, then it was done at least 20
Hoyt
Mar 2015
#47
Point is this is not something new, and some conspiracy by Obama to sell you down the river.
Hoyt
Mar 2015
#72
Call your Senators, Representatives and Whitehouse to express your opposition to this global
Dont call me Shirley
Mar 2015
#20
And how Coke created the orange drink, FANTA just for the Nazis during WWII to
appalachiablue
Mar 2015
#67
Michael Froman is the US Trade Representative, appointed by Obama. Each of the 12 countries involved
Hoyt
Mar 2015
#75
So do I understand that you are fully onboard for Fast Tracking the TPP? nm
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#174
So you post for amusement in GD, but you're serious in the HRC group?
DisgustipatedinCA
Mar 2015
#202
Only the things that matter, like wages and benefits. Another failure for the POTUS.
WillTwain
Mar 2015
#100
Are you serious? See nearly every post you have made on TPP spanning months.
WillTwain
Mar 2015
#109
Believe me your interpretation of my words means very little to me. The Transparant President, OK
WillTwain
Mar 2015
#118
You are somewhat famous for your pretentious "yawn." Do not make me expose it.
WillTwain
Mar 2015
#153
As you are speaking for Nance, please have her apologize the "yawn" comment is posted
WillTwain
Mar 2015
#210
Does Nance have a response to the Yawn quote posted that she wrote but denied writing.
WillTwain
Mar 2015
#209
I know everything I need to know about you. You filled in all the gaps with a few words.
WillTwain
Mar 2015
#225
I'm interested.. I didn't know that. You'd think from reading "Secret!" around here for the last
Cha
Mar 2015
#94
Like Nance said.. these trade deals have always been in secret.. there's more involved than just
Cha
Mar 2015
#149
So you're response to those that want more transparency (like BO promised),
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#176
This is wrong thinking: "I will never say to trust anyone blindly but he is not someone who wants to
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#191
It's secret for a reason. It's dangerous and will harm the American working class while
GoneFishin
Mar 2015
#129
You forgot the sarcasm and rolling on floor laughing smilies in your post. (nm)
Elwood P Dowd
Mar 2015
#159