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18. K&R. It is well past time to stop using euphemisms like "centrist" and "moderate"
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 05:51 PM
Mar 2015

to describe policies and politicians who are doing nothing less malignant than implementing fascism in the United States of America.

Monied corporate corruption of our government is now deep, systemic, and bipartisan, and it has dismantled democracy itself.

Austerity and attacks on safety nets in a country that has already devastated its middle class are opposed by over 80 percent of Americans across party lines, yet these economic positions are nevertheless described as "centrist," as though they fell in the mainstream of American opinion. Policies coming out of our government now routinely bear little resemblance to what people have repeatedly stated in polls that they want, and neoliberal politicians lie their way through campaigns because they realize how unpopular their positions really are...yet we persist in calling them "centrists."

Secret laws, secret courts, "Kill Lists"/indefinite detention without due process, and mass surveillance in the United States of America are extreme violations of our Constitution and should not be considered "moderate" positions in any sense of the word. They are extreme, even fascistic policies, yet the politicians who espouse them are permitted by us to describe themselves as "moderates."

We desperately need to start using the words, "corporatist," "extreme," and even "fascist" to describe what is happening in this country under the corporatist/neoconservative/neoliberal/Third Way agenda. We are witnessing a malignant merger of state and corporations and the active dismantling of our Constitution. The corporate state is pouring our tax dollars into propaganda and marketing for their agenda, and IMO the vast majority of Americans, while aware of their own economic pain, have little understanding of the peril facing our democratic institutions and basic Constitutional protections.

We use words that suggest the current neoliberal and neocon policies are business as usual in America...just another flavor of policies that Americans can trust still fall safely within the boundaries of a democratic, constitutional, representative political system. They are "centrist" or "moderate." But they really aren't. They are fascist. Thank you for posting this again. We desperately need to adjust our labels to drive home the seriousness of the crisis we face.

It's Heeeere! smirkymonkey Mar 2015 #1
aka The Republican platform. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #2
^^^Aka the obligatory absurd Third Way attempt to pretend it's only a Republican problem. ^^^ woo me with science Mar 2015 #12
I'm concerned about your health. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #13
i think they have everything to do with the op. PowerToThePeople Mar 2015 #14
But there's 14. Also, no, both parties aren't the same. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #15
Who claimed that both parties are exactly the same? woo me with science Mar 2015 #23
+1 Of course they go to the heart of the fascism being constructed around us. woo me with science Mar 2015 #17
We are 14 and 0 for that list. Batting 1000. djean111 Mar 2015 #3
Amerika Va Lefty Mar 2015 #4
We really ought to fredamae Mar 2015 #5
This again? Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #6
This lame response again? You've been embarrassed on this repeatedly. woo me with science Mar 2015 #10
Many years ago I started saying things on my drives at home because links won't be there forever. LiberalArkie Mar 2015 #16
+1 Try finding pics of Occupy police violence now. Or doing a search on DU on torture policy or woo me with science Mar 2015 #19
I think the list should be pinned, for the reminder. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2015 #7
agree. PowerToThePeople Mar 2015 #9
Except these aren't anything to do with fascism. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2015 #8
He didn't define fascism AgingAmerican Mar 2015 #20
So the "defining characteristics of fascism" (his title) Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #21
One commonly used definition of fascism is the malignant merging of state and corporate power, woo me with science Mar 2015 #24
Which dictionary is that "definition" from? Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #25
What an embarrassing post for you. woo me with science Mar 2015 #27
So the autocratic fascist nationalists decided to install Barack Obama as president in 2008, Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #28
One characteristic of a fascist state not contained within the list of 14 in the OP is that KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #29
One party, two faces. woo me with science Mar 2015 #30
It's like privatization on steroids AgingAmerican Mar 2015 #31
This can never be re-posted often enough. hifiguy Mar 2015 #11
K&R. It is well past time to stop using euphemisms like "centrist" and "moderate" woo me with science Mar 2015 #18
Huge K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Mar 2015 #22
Thank you so much, this really helps understand the monstrosity. Will show this to a couple appalachiablue Mar 2015 #26
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