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In reply to the discussion: "no evidence of any use of excessive force" [View all]Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)10. You are correct.
It is possible that the fracture may have happened before being place in the van, and subsequently exacerbated.
And more details regarding the larynx should be apparent on autopsy.
There is mention in some reports of a "crushed larynx", but the source of that description is not clear in anything I have read, but it seems that he did have laryngeal surgery.
If Gray had a laryngeal fracture, his voice in the early part of the above video taken by a bystander did not sound like someone who had just sustained a laryngeal fracture, and such a finding would emphasize the importance of knowing more about the subsequent "placing of additional restraints" when the van subsequently stopped.
The vague tone of the Police Commissioner stating that "no evidence of excessive force" found at autopsy, while totally omitting any mention of the larynx, in the context of a patient who apparently had a condition calling for laryngeal surgery, is suspect, and incompetent, if not intentionally misleading.
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The concept of limited hangout is about only admitting to what is known at the time
HereSince1628
Apr 2015
#1
BWR...He made eye contact (supposedly) with the officers and ran. Black While Running...the knife
libdem4life
Apr 2015
#4
"No evidence of any use of excessive force." Well, except for the dead guy they killed.
Comrade Grumpy
Apr 2015
#6
If you use force to restrain someone and you end up breaking their neck and they
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#33
The injuries and the subsequent death are themselves evidence of excessive force
Moral Compass
Apr 2015
#23