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Bjorn Against

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Thu May 28, 2015, 12:20 AM May 2015

Yes, Bernie can win. [View all]

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I have heard many people say that Bernie Sanders does not have a chance, I am here to say that those people are wrong. I won't deny that Hillary is starting the race with huge advantages in money, name recognition, and polling numbers. If the election were to be held today she would easily win, I certainly can not deny that reality. While reality does tell us that Bernie would not stand a chance against Hillary if the election were held today, reality also tells us that the election is not being held today and a lot can happen between now and election day.

Here is what needs to happen for Bernie to pull off one of the greatest upsets in American political history.

First Bernie has to start closing the gap in polling numbers between himself and Hillary, a gap that is admittedly massive. The good news for Bernie however is that this gap is almost certain to shrink, Hillary's support has most likely already peaked. When you start out polling as highly as she did the pool of additional voters that she could win over is very small. Many of her current supporters are people who voted against her in 2008, if they voted against her before it is not at all unreasonable to think another candidate could win them over in this election.

It appears inevitable to me that Hillary's polling numbers will drop, of course they have to drop a huge amount for her to fall behind so there is no doubt that closing the gap will be very difficult but Bernie does have a couple of things going for him.

First Bernie's supporters are very passionate and he has a huge presence on social media. This is going to be extremely important because no matter how many small donors Bernie is able to receive assistance from he will never have the funds that Clinton has. With a committed group of volunteers and a big social media presence however it is possible to reach a lot of people without spending a lot of money, if Sanders and his supporters can really tap into social media they can overcome big money as you get far more bang for the buck when you can get volunteers to spread your message for you than you get from relying on ad agencies.

Bernie's history as an independent Senator who is widely respected by Democrats and even some Republicans puts him in a very good position to reach out to a wide range of voters. As much as the media tries to dismiss him as a fringe candidate the fact is he won his last election with 71% of the vote, I realize that it is Vermont but even in Vermont you don't reach 71% of the vote without winning over a broad range of people. Most Vermonters do not consider themselves socialist, yet 71% of them have shown that the word socialist does not scare them. The cold war is over and the word socialist does not carry the sting it once did, Bernie has already shown that by getting elected by huge margins while proudly calling himself a Democratic Socialist.

The fact is that most Americans are not super partisan, huge numbers of Americans consider themselves independents and Bernie's own history as an independent will be valuable in reaching out to these potential voters.

Speaking of reaching out to potential voters, let's face it Bernie has been doing far more to reach out to voters than Hillary has in this campaign. Hillary has not even been talking to the media, and while they try to claim she is bringing her message to voters directly that claim is really just a talking point with little basis in reality. My guess is that most people reading this are voters, I am also quite certain that most of you won't see Hillary reaching out to you directly. Sorry, but speaking to a small group of people in Iowa will not get your message out to the majority of voters.

While most of us have serious problems with the press, the fact is that the press does still play a major role in informing people about the election. Voters generally don't like to see candidates refuse to submit themselves to questions by the press and if Hillary continues to give the impression that she is running away from the press it will backfire on her.

Bernie on the other hand has handled the press beautifully, he has given numerous media interviews over the course of the last month and in all of those interviews he has answered all of the questions without letting the media bait him into focusing on gossip. He has clearly articulated his positions, and while he has managed to use the media to get his message out he has also taken the opportunity to call out that same media for their obsession with gossip over policy.

While I don't deny that Bernie Sanders has a huge mountain to climb, I also think that he is doing a far better job at presenting his message than Hillary is. I may be being optimistic, but I really believe that as long as Bernie can maintain a passionate and commited group of supporters who will help him get his message out he can win. If you want to see that victory then don't let anyone tell you that it can't happen, it may be a tough battle ahead but we can't bring about real change if we don't fight those tough battles.

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Yes, Bernie can win. [View all] Bjorn Against May 2015 OP
Hell yes.... daleanime May 2015 #1
Huge K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT May 2015 #2
K&R DesertFlower May 2015 #3
He absolutely can win. AtomicKitten May 2015 #4
No amount of money can buy enthusiasm and commitment. Paka May 2015 #5
So did Ron Paul's followers... NiceTryGuy May 2015 #10
There weren't enough of them. Paka May 2015 #11
You'll find... NiceTryGuy May 2015 #12
Are you using Karl Rove's math? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #27
k and r cwydro May 2015 #6
You will NEVER see him on broadcast TV unless he pays for it. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #7
He is on tv all the time BrotherIvan May 2015 #13
Only as a Don Quixote. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #15
So you admit he is on tv all the time BrotherIvan May 2015 #24
Okay, maybe if he busts a move on Ellen. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #31
FWIW I'll share my anecdoctal cool story on how people respond to Bernie. pa28 May 2015 #8
I have shown video to my coworkers BrotherIvan May 2015 #14
Very well stated, Bjorn Iwillnevergiveup May 2015 #9
Kick! Stardust May 2015 #16
. MohRokTah May 2015 #17
Bullcrap Robbins May 2015 #18
Oh good grief, Vermont's population is about the same as any given Ohio Congressional District. MohRokTah May 2015 #19
I heard the same about Obama as well. JEB May 2015 #20
Obama had a major fundraising maching. Kucinich didn't and Bernie doesn't. eom MohRokTah May 2015 #21
One of the main reasons I support Bernie. JEB May 2015 #22
Idealists always go for the guy with no money. MohRokTah May 2015 #23
Possible yes, but stupendously unlikely whatthehey May 2015 #25
thanks...and spot on n/t Sheepshank May 2015 #28
He has a huge presence in reddit, facebook, twitter which is reaching young people who are not peacebird May 2015 #29
And the turnout of that demographic in primaries is? HRC Twitter followers compared to his is? whatthehey May 2015 #33
Twitter followers are hard to verify but HRC has 3,600,000 followers and Bernie Sanders has 339,000. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #37
K&R! peacebird May 2015 #26
I think so HassleCat May 2015 #30
Not with the campaign manager he has working for him now, he doesn't. KittyWampus May 2015 #32
Another factor: Name recognition doesn't equate to approval. Jester Messiah May 2015 #34
I never heard of Obama yet I voted for him. glinda May 2015 #35
This is incorrect DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #36
And she is currently polling higher than 48% Bjorn Against May 2015 #38
So one can argue that she is starting at 48% DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #39
She is polling very well, no doubt about it Bjorn Against May 2015 #41
I wish you well./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #42
I doubt it, but good OP. DanTex May 2015 #40
K&R woo me with science May 2015 #43
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