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In reply to the discussion: Will TPA passage potentially mean a Republican controlled government without a filibuster in 2016? [View all]cascadiance
(19,537 posts)3. It sounds like farmers and ag companies help push passing TPA/TPP...
http://www.hpj.com/opinion/agricultural-groups-help-get-obama-s-trade-agenda-rolling-again/article_ea05f882-54c2-53c0-a6bc-45e62781eaa8.html
I wonder how they or at least us tax payers will feel if multinational ag companies that aren't located here in the U.S. who don't like our farm subsidies basically helping our ag companies dump exported products below costs with those subsidies in other countries will sue through ISDS courts our government that we should pay ag subsidies to them as well to have a "free market" where they don't have something obstructing their profits too. Now, would congress say that instead of us paying them subsidies as well that we would just shut down all ag subsidies to those companies and their BOUGHT congress critters who helped push passing the TPA/TPP? Umm... NO! Fat chance! We the taxpayers will be left footing the bill, or those who benefit from other government assistance that have those programs cut to pay these bills will suffer!
This was an issue back in 2002 too with foreign companies/countries wanting to limit our ag subsidies then through the WTO...
http://www.mrt.com/import/article_0fa736ac-0c84-515f-ab9f-2a623d1a9ada.html
House to Vote on Farm Subsidy Boost - MRT.com
Another reason Corporate America loves farm subsidies is that it affects most the foreign farmers that are put out of work who can't compete and are driven to move up here for low paying jobs in this country as undocumented workers, that helps their profiteering agenda two fold!
I wonder how they or at least us tax payers will feel if multinational ag companies that aren't located here in the U.S. who don't like our farm subsidies basically helping our ag companies dump exported products below costs with those subsidies in other countries will sue through ISDS courts our government that we should pay ag subsidies to them as well to have a "free market" where they don't have something obstructing their profits too. Now, would congress say that instead of us paying them subsidies as well that we would just shut down all ag subsidies to those companies and their BOUGHT congress critters who helped push passing the TPA/TPP? Umm... NO! Fat chance! We the taxpayers will be left footing the bill, or those who benefit from other government assistance that have those programs cut to pay these bills will suffer!
This was an issue back in 2002 too with foreign companies/countries wanting to limit our ag subsidies then through the WTO...
http://www.mrt.com/import/article_0fa736ac-0c84-515f-ab9f-2a623d1a9ada.html
House to Vote on Farm Subsidy Boost - MRT.com
...
But the bill's subsidy boost has angered foreign competitors, and the European Union said Thursday it was considering challenging the payments before the World Trade Organization. Under WTO limits, certain U.S. farm subsidies cannot exceed $19.1 billion annually.
"The United States is increasing trade-distorting support for (American) farmers that will harm developing countries. This is what we are fiercely opposed to," EU spokesman Gregor Kreuzhuber.
A congressional critic of the bill, Rep. Ron Kind, D-Wis., planned a last-ditch attempt to derail it. He was proposing that congressional negotiators be directed to set new limits on payments to big farms and use the savings for conservation needs and other programs.
A similar proposal passed the House 265-158 last month but the vote was not binding on the negotiators.
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But the bill's subsidy boost has angered foreign competitors, and the European Union said Thursday it was considering challenging the payments before the World Trade Organization. Under WTO limits, certain U.S. farm subsidies cannot exceed $19.1 billion annually.
"The United States is increasing trade-distorting support for (American) farmers that will harm developing countries. This is what we are fiercely opposed to," EU spokesman Gregor Kreuzhuber.
A congressional critic of the bill, Rep. Ron Kind, D-Wis., planned a last-ditch attempt to derail it. He was proposing that congressional negotiators be directed to set new limits on payments to big farms and use the savings for conservation needs and other programs.
A similar proposal passed the House 265-158 last month but the vote was not binding on the negotiators.
...
Another reason Corporate America loves farm subsidies is that it affects most the foreign farmers that are put out of work who can't compete and are driven to move up here for low paying jobs in this country as undocumented workers, that helps their profiteering agenda two fold!
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Will TPA passage potentially mean a Republican controlled government without a filibuster in 2016? [View all]
cascadiance
Jun 2015
OP
Now it looks like people want to switch H-1B from immigration bill to "free trade" bills...
cascadiance
Jun 2015
#2
Here's an even better article about how TISA will let 'guest worker' programs have open season...
cascadiance
Jun 2015
#8
I would too, but I need to help Bernie win the democratic primary this year...
cascadiance
Jun 2015
#5
I think we need to know what constitutes a trade bill and what doesn't. DO YOU KNOW?
cascadiance
Jun 2015
#10
I don't know this weakness to be there either, but I do feel this question needs to be asked...
cascadiance
Jun 2015
#13