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cascadiance

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3. It sounds like farmers and ag companies help push passing TPA/TPP...
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 02:02 PM
Jun 2015
http://www.hpj.com/opinion/agricultural-groups-help-get-obama-s-trade-agenda-rolling-again/article_ea05f882-54c2-53c0-a6bc-45e62781eaa8.html

I wonder how they or at least us tax payers will feel if multinational ag companies that aren't located here in the U.S. who don't like our farm subsidies basically helping our ag companies dump exported products below costs with those subsidies in other countries will sue through ISDS courts our government that we should pay ag subsidies to them as well to have a "free market" where they don't have something obstructing their profits too. Now, would congress say that instead of us paying them subsidies as well that we would just shut down all ag subsidies to those companies and their BOUGHT congress critters who helped push passing the TPA/TPP? Umm... NO! Fat chance! We the taxpayers will be left footing the bill, or those who benefit from other government assistance that have those programs cut to pay these bills will suffer!

This was an issue back in 2002 too with foreign companies/countries wanting to limit our ag subsidies then through the WTO...

http://www.mrt.com/import/article_0fa736ac-0c84-515f-ab9f-2a623d1a9ada.html

House to Vote on Farm Subsidy Boost - MRT.com

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But the bill's subsidy boost has angered foreign competitors, and the European Union said Thursday it was considering challenging the payments before the World Trade Organization. Under WTO limits, certain U.S. farm subsidies cannot exceed $19.1 billion annually.

"The United States is increasing trade-distorting support for (American) farmers that will harm developing countries. This is what we are fiercely opposed to," EU spokesman Gregor Kreuzhuber.

A congressional critic of the bill, Rep. Ron Kind, D-Wis., planned a last-ditch attempt to derail it. He was proposing that congressional negotiators be directed to set new limits on payments to big farms and use the savings for conservation needs and other programs.

A similar proposal passed the House 265-158 last month but the vote was not binding on the negotiators.
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Another reason Corporate America loves farm subsidies is that it affects most the foreign farmers that are put out of work who can't compete and are driven to move up here for low paying jobs in this country as undocumented workers, that helps their profiteering agenda two fold!
Interesting. I look forward to a discussion about this. northoftheborder Jun 2015 #1
Now it looks like people want to switch H-1B from immigration bill to "free trade" bills... cascadiance Jun 2015 #2
Here's an even better article about how TISA will let 'guest worker' programs have open season... cascadiance Jun 2015 #8
It sounds like farmers and ag companies help push passing TPA/TPP... cascadiance Jun 2015 #3
It's rightwing economic ideology period. mmonk Jun 2015 #4
I would too, but I need to help Bernie win the democratic primary this year... cascadiance Jun 2015 #5
I'm with you. But it all goes on how it goes with me. mmonk Jun 2015 #6
Yep, I understand and echo your anger too! cascadiance Jun 2015 #7
How does TPP or Fast Track Authority affect the filibuster Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2015 #9
I think we need to know what constitutes a trade bill and what doesn't. DO YOU KNOW? cascadiance Jun 2015 #10
Interesting Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2015 #11
I don't know this weakness to be there either, but I do feel this question needs to be asked... cascadiance Jun 2015 #13
The President has to submit a bill with a signed treaty Recursion Jun 2015 #14
But when that treaty creates something like an ISDS court... cascadiance Jun 2015 #15
We currently have ISDS with every potential TPP partner except Indonesia Recursion Jun 2015 #16
19 USC § 2191-2194 Recursion Jun 2015 #12
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