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(19,326 posts) Mon Jul 6, 2015, 07:54 PM Jul 2015

Holy Moly! Holder "sees striking a deal" with Snowden to return to USA. This is huge. [View all]

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Holder sees possible DOJ deal with Snowden
By Julian Hattem * 07/06/15 04:39 PM EDT * The Hill

Government leaker Edward Snowden may some day be able to strike a deal to return to the U.S. without jail time, according to former Attorney General Eric Holder. ~snip~

“I certainly think there could be a basis for a resolution that everybody could ultimately be satisfied with,” Holder said. “I think the possibility exists.” During the interview, Holder also appeared to go further toward praising Snowden’s actions than other members of the Obama administration have been willing to do.

“His actions spurred a necessary debate,” Holder told Yahoo News. “We are in a different place as a result of the Snowden disclosures.”

Snowden has been charged with multiple crimes for his 2013 leak of classified federal documents, including Espionage Act violations that could land him in jail for decades. Because of the nature of the charges, Snowden’s supporters say that he would not be able to fairly give his side of the story in court.

Snowden’s legal team has long been in discussions with Obama administration officials to potentially reduce those charges in exchange for Snowden’s return home, but those talks have so far failed to yield any progress.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/246967-ex-ag-holder-possibility-exists-for-deal-with-edward-snowden

ON EDIT: Another more recent OP of mine - DoJ says "no deal" in the works re: Snowden
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026948786
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/07/politics/eric-holder-edward-snowden/index.html

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Holy Moly! Holder "sees striking a deal" with Snowden to return to USA. This is huge. [View all] 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 OP

He would be foolish to return to the states. nt avebury Jul 2015 #1

he is foolish nt arely staircase Jul 2015 #2

The only fools are his detractors. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #6

he should stay on his russian beet farm nt arely staircase Jul 2015 #7

As I said, the only fools are his detractors. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #11

Ignorant drive by's gotta drive, BillZ MrMickeysMom Jul 2015 #109

Baloney. Darb Jul 2015 #138

Ahh, how cute, a Snowden hater! nt Logical Jul 2015 #25

I view him as a hero for the people. 840high Jul 2015 #40

depends on what people arely staircase Jul 2015 #44

All people. nt Chef Eric Jul 2015 #96

aw, thats cute. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #125

Not if he had an ironclad settlement with the government. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #5

He's going to have to give something to get that good of a deal. Chan790 Jul 2015 #14

He's already given something, the TRUTH 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #16

The truth is not a bargaining chip for a better deal from DoJ. Chan790 Jul 2015 #19

In your view, should "the government" EVER admit it's been wrong, and change it's tune? 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #24

"Should" is irrelevant. Chan790 Jul 2015 #28

OK then. Forget the "should" ... riddle me this 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #30

Eventually perhaps... Chan790 Jul 2015 #33

I try to never say never 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #35

I'm just cynical. Chan790 Jul 2015 #46

I know it sounds naive but isn't a victory for us a victory for them? We are the government, I Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #52

Try to convince our owners of that. -none Jul 2015 #53

+100 my sentiments exactly nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #61

No, they'll do it (if they do) because they've been shamed into it 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #60

How about the exposure of legal and legitimate... Adrahil Jul 2015 #23

Not getting into this. It is old. nt arely staircase Jul 2015 #37

A terrible blow to the NSA lovers LittleBlue Jul 2015 #3

please elaborate arely staircase Jul 2015 #8

They were adamant that Snowden's revelations were old and wouldn't accomplish anything LittleBlue Jul 2015 #21

Are there "NSA lovers" on DU? NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #107

The anti Snowden mouth foamers LittleBlue Jul 2015 #108

That's what I thought. NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #110

Most of the ones on this site attacking Snowden do so LittleBlue Jul 2015 #111

Like I said ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #112

Even on gay marriage and abortion rights? LittleBlue Jul 2015 #113

At this point ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #114

That's what I thought LittleBlue Jul 2015 #115

You just had your ass handed to you, that's all. n/t ronnie624 Jul 2015 #120

Yeah. NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #121

In my opinion, those 'liberals' and 'progressives' ronnie624 Jul 2015 #123

And thanks for providing another example ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #124

Don't you know Nance.... Darb Jul 2015 #139

Yes. LeftOfWest Jul 2015 #154

You might want to think about proof reading. Marr Jul 2015 #150

What's comedic ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #151

Oh, I realize you were insulting someone again. Marr Jul 2015 #156

Take this argument up with ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #157

I'm taking it up with you. Marr Jul 2015 #158

Oh, I see. NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #159

Not exactly. Marr Jul 2015 #160

LOL, don't feel so bad, many were totally wrong about Snowden! nt Logical Jul 2015 #27

"former", "think", "possibility", "may", "some day". n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #4

Coming from a high ranking official, those words are pretty powerful. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #9

Holder is no longer ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #129

Holder holds zero cred with me. NV Whino Jul 2015 #10

I'm sure Holder is just torn up to hear this. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #12

He's probably shaking in his boots. NV Whino Jul 2015 #39

Beware of ex Attorney Generals pscot Jul 2015 #13

Holder has no authority to strike a deal with anyone. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #15

+1 (nt) enough Jul 2015 #17

Oh, don't go ruining the fun by stating the obvious, now!! MADem Jul 2015 #47

No one is invested in any such thing. ronnie624 Jul 2015 #122

Oh boy....the "hatred" word!! MADem Jul 2015 #140

It was your post I spoke of. ronnie624 Jul 2015 #148

Who's a victim? You're the one getting all "personal" here. MADem Jul 2015 #149

He didn't say he did treestar Jul 2015 #99

Huh MFrohike Jul 2015 #18

Good for Holder. Good for Snowden. elias49 Jul 2015 #20

How in happy Hades is Holder supposed to 'do' anything? He's a PRIVATE CITIZEN. MADem Jul 2015 #48

Putin's pal. St Ed. elias49 Jul 2015 #54

Yeah, this is HUGH all right - not to mention SERIES!!! NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #22

U ask "How on earth did you get the phrase "Holder 'striking a deal' with Snowden" out of THAT article?" 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #29

Only one BIG problem with that ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #32

As I've already said, I was quoting FROM the article itself, period. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #57

The quote in your title omits a key word . . . markpkessinger Jul 2015 #68

OK, I like that suggestion. So be it. nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #70

Cheers! n/t markpkessinger Jul 2015 #78

And you were attributing a quote to Holden that he never stated ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #74

I think your snark got away from you 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #75

My happiness has nothing to do with it. NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #83

My title does NOT say Holder is still AG 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #85

What started this discussion ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #97

This is just silly. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #98

Well, if you consider ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #104

I did read the article, but admittedly misinterpreted it. Sue me, Alert me, whatever 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #117

What was apparent ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #118

That wasn't a fork 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #119

He can strike a deal today if he'd like--it doesn't take a former AG to figure that out. MADem Jul 2015 #49

I love the 'clickbait' lament elias49 Jul 2015 #56

That's why you're chasing me round this thread telling me how you don't like my opinion, mmmmhhh? MADem Jul 2015 #141

Bwahaha. elias49 Jul 2015 #143

And here you are, again...not caring, of course! MADem Jul 2015 #146

Look closer Mad...it's been you following ME. elias49 Jul 2015 #147

Newsflash: Holder throws flamingdem Jul 2015 #26

That's 'The Believers', please. Capitalization is important. randome Jul 2015 #45

Snowden or bust! flamingdem Jul 2015 #81

It would be huge if he was still attorney general. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #31

OK, I am assuming he's just might have a weentsy-bit of influence with Obama 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #34

I bet he does. 840high Jul 2015 #41

He had the ability to make this happen when he was Attorney General. He didn't. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #43

Yet he did not use that influence while he was Attorney General. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #55

Goodnt realFedUp Jul 2015 #36

He is working for a firm lobbying for banks. City Lights Jul 2015 #38

Were I Edward Snowden I would say Aerows Jul 2015 #42

The first article on this doesn't say "without jail time" Eric J in MN Jul 2015 #50

Huge for Snowden. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #51

"His actions spurred a necessary debate. We are in a different place as a result of Snowden's deurbano Jul 2015 #58

Interesting point 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #62

Not sure about the title rtracey Jul 2015 #59

Unlike Gonzalas, Holder served honorably, with distinction and is well-respected 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #64

Stop your idiocy rtracey Jul 2015 #79

Thank you Captain Obvious. Holder's not current AG? Really. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #82

wow...nevermind rtracey Jul 2015 #87

The title was only "misleading" to those who still think Holder is AG 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #89

look at the comments rtracey Jul 2015 #90

I changed the title to Holder "SEES striking deal" quoting the linked article 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #91

you are creating the mountain from a molehill rtracey Jul 2015 #103

Striking a deal? n2doc Jul 2015 #63

He is creating a smokescreen to shield his current return to law group, that lobbies for Big Banks TheNutcracker Jul 2015 #65

I don't doubt that your assessment is somewhat accurate, 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #69

Seems the only two types of people in the world are NSA Apologists or Snowden Fanboys LanternWaste Jul 2015 #66

Holder is no longer AG . . . markpkessinger Jul 2015 #67

I never said Holder is still AG. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #72

It's called a federal plea deal in exchange for his testimony. msanthrope Jul 2015 #71

Uh oh! How can these people be trusted? joanbarnes Jul 2015 #73

It's a trap. DawgHouse Jul 2015 #76

Thread winner....no matter what side of the whole Snowden debate one lands on!!! nt MADem Jul 2015 #142

This is BS, plain and simple Demeter Jul 2015 #77

Don't trust them Ed! Helen Borg Jul 2015 #80

I'm inclined to agree with you 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #84

Enough weasel words in that one sentence to make a boogle! (Yes, I looked it up!) randome Jul 2015 #86

Be very, very careful Mr. Snowden. senz Jul 2015 #88

Right! How can you trust a guy like President Obama? brooklynite Jul 2015 #95

First, Holder does not represent the President. senz Jul 2015 #100

So you're saying President Obama doesn't control the Government... brooklynite Jul 2015 #105

No, I'm saying Holder doesn't work for Obama, and Obama cannot control all the crazies in the U.S. senz Jul 2015 #126

"Even if Holder were sincere ..." NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #106

Yes, the story is rather preposterous, isn't it? senz Jul 2015 #127

No Deal. Full and complete presidential pardon followed by Medal of Freedom on point Jul 2015 #92

I actually tend to agree with you & others who've expressed similar concerns. nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #93

As with the Greek Government... brooklynite Jul 2015 #94

let's get'em back fadedrose Jul 2015 #101

Current AG has already nixed this trial balloon by Holder 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #102

Doesn't he have to have a trial? fadedrose Jul 2015 #116

It's all pretty much moot apparently, since DoJ has said "no change in position" 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #131

I was thinking about the rich guy who Clinton pardoned fadedrose Jul 2015 #132

Sorry, I don't recall the Clinton/Mark Rich thing, 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #133

Can you provide a link ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #128

22 Hours between The Hill article and the CNN article 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #130

Try using at least a modicum of common sense ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #134

I'm through with your hateful attacks. Welcome to my ignore list. nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #136

It's always telling ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #137

You're way too invested in hatred. Evidence your endless pursuit of Snowden elias49 Jul 2015 #144

The discussion had nothing to do with ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #145

Well said. LeftOfWest Jul 2015 #153

This is bull. FiveGoodMen Jul 2015 #135

I'm sure Snowden is smarter than this ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #152

I'd prefer he stays overseas. B Calm Jul 2015 #155