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DevonRex

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27. I really like you.

Wed May 16, 2012, 08:27 PM

May 2012

Good head on your shoulders and all. It's like this: Stalin or Lenin. I'll take Lenin. Not perfect by any means but not bad, either. Workable. That other guy? Fucking crazy evil.

Heh. That's as close as I could get to your post without Godwining my own analogy.

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Wake up folks: nobody with power gives a fuck about you. [View all] MannyGoldstein May 2012 OP

Dems are the same as Republicans. Dems are the same as Republicans. Squawk NNN0LHI May 2012 #1

The true Left would be wise to realize this and push for Leftist Democratic candidates. Zalatix May 2012 #4

"true left"... SidDithers May 2012 #21

No true lefty would put sugar on their porridge. meti57b May 2012 #28

That is a question a true leftie would never have to ask! sabrina 1 May 2012 #91

We need to follow your advice, I agree with you, Your Guy leads by example Dragonfli May 2012 #139

... SidDithers May 2012 #146

... Dragonfli May 2012 #147

... SidDithers May 2012 #151

. Dragonfli May 2012 #183

You're good. Dithers got nothing. HiPointDem May 2012 #263

I notice that you ask questions a lot instead of giving your take. nm rhett o rick May 2012 #306

You're right... SidDithers May 2012 #311

You say this as an active member of the left in the US Democratic party I assume Dragonfli May 2012 #331

... SidDithers May 2012 #336

. Dragonfli May 2012 #337

And how the hell would you know? nm rhett o rick May 2012 #338

They do give a fuck about the 99%. They see the 99% as a pestilence. Zalatix May 2012 #2

"culling the herd"... tex-wyo-dem May 2012 #117

People don't seem to realize that this is a culling. Zalatix May 2012 #334

No. At this point they're about as polar opposite on most issues as you could get. FarLeftFist May 2012 #3

One belives in radical austerity, while the other MannyGoldstein May 2012 #9

Yes, both parties agree that the deficit needs to be addressed, but they break on HOW to address it. FarLeftFist May 2012 #10

It's not true that one side wants to collect zero tax revenue.. Fumesucker May 2012 #18

And neither one wants to do the *only* thing that's actually worked in the past MannyGoldstein May 2012 #19

O Rly? FarLeftFist May 2012 #25

Frnkly it should have hit bottom and would have. progress2k12nbynd May 2012 #103

Nope. I'm saying helping homeowners is preferable instead. FarLeftFist May 2012 #193

quote is exactly what the hamp program did...nothing ..nothing was done to help until xiamiam May 2012 #199

There was money to be made by waiting first Tushon May 2012 #251

I agree. There's a wide gulf between them now. pnwmom May 2012 #15

"most issues" OnyxCollie May 2012 #78

Thank You, Thank You, Thank You.... WiffenPoof May 2012 #132

+ 1000 nt raouldukelives May 2012 #180

GITMO is open b/c of a 96-4 Senate vote. Next. FarLeftFist May 2012 #191

Definately no Democrats at fault there, GOOD EXAMPLE to counter the point of weak Democrats Dragonfli May 2012 #208

And that has nothing to do OnyxCollie May 2012 #213

!!! bvar22 May 2012 #249

Their opposite on issues as long as it keeps the masses divided. Larry Ogg May 2012 #256

Then why is the admin spending more of MY resources going after marijuana dispensers than rhett o rick May 2012 #309

K&R for the truth on a national scale. Brickbat May 2012 #5

These things are true, Manny. +1 Poll_Blind May 2012 #6

yes Manny and its a sad commentary that just by saying it you could be banned xiamiam May 2012 #200

FDR would have also been banned. So would Truman. And others. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #231

If they were even remotely similar we wouldn't have gridlock & obstruction. FarLeftFist May 2012 #7

+1! FailureToCommunicate May 2012 #11

+2 ellisonz May 2012 #12

+1! uponit7771 May 2012 #71

+5 Son of Gob May 2012 #90

+100 Canuckistanian May 2012 #95

All the wrestlers in the WWE work for Vince Mcmahon. OnyxCollie May 2012 #97

.... bigwillq May 2012 #107

Wrestling isn't real. FarLeftFist May 2012 #116

Precisely nt MannyGoldstein May 2012 #119

Neither is OnyxCollie May 2012 #121

Officials are voted into office and held accountable. Wrestlers aren't. FarLeftFist May 2012 #194

Oh, but when we try to hold them accountable OnyxCollie May 2012 #220

When some try to hold them accountable they tell this lie "disgruntled non dems campaign openly Dragonfli May 2012 #233

Scott Walker was voted into office by the KOCH brothers $$$$. held accountable, not crunch60 May 2012 #258

Neither is politics tkmorris May 2012 #136

neither is DC piratefish08 May 2012 #141

Neither is much of the political theatrics we see... tex-wyo-dem May 2012 #169

Tell that to women who have been raped with trans-vaginal probes emulatorloo May 2012 #219

+ a googolplex AynRandCollectedSS May 2012 #145

Then why did we have gridlock and obstruction in 2008? Maybe that's what our corporate rhett o rick May 2012 #310

Adults understand there's RARELY a choice between good and better when it comes to people leading uponit7771 May 2012 #8

Complete nonsense. n/t ellisonz May 2012 #13

Thanks for the info, sunshine. n/t cynatnite May 2012 #14

+1 The recs for this are hilarious. Number23 May 2012 #122

i bet it's the who's who of fools... dionysus May 2012 #203

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - HUGE K & R !!! WillyT May 2012 #16

Right, so we should just throw in the towel and let the tea baggers win. pnwmom May 2012 #17

Oh look, another "not a dime's worth of difference" post... SidDithers May 2012 #20

More like the difference between millionaires and billionaires. rug May 2012 #77

Yeah, but it is what it is... Zorra May 2012 #22

I really like you. DevonRex May 2012 #27

Aww, shucks. Thanks. And don't worry, I'm a netnostic. I don't believe in Godwin's Law. Zorra May 2012 #31

So ProSense May 2012 #23

And why are Republicans getting ready to hold Americans hostage again? MannyGoldstein May 2012 #24

"Wake up folks: nobody with power gives a fuck about you." ProSense May 2012 #30

Why did Lincoln fire his losing generals? MannyGoldstein May 2012 #36

Because ProSense May 2012 #38

At least FDR actually fought for stuff and turned the 99% economy around MannyGoldstein May 2012 #40

Except ProSense May 2012 #43

Bullshit. MannyGoldstein May 2012 #44

Well, ProSense May 2012 #47

There were 30 lynchings in 1934, the first MannyGoldstein May 2012 #59

Wait, ProSense May 2012 #69

Wait, MannyGoldstein May 2012 #81

Well, ProSense May 2012 #83

Poverty, homelessness, and hunger are increasing MannyGoldstein May 2012 #115

Who is ProSense May 2012 #157

Actually, FDR's federal works programs hired pretty much without discrimination JDPriestly May 2012 #110

I believe you are correct nt MannyGoldstein May 2012 #124

Nope. Didn't include Blacks or Women. How "progressive". FarLeftFist May 2012 #192

What didn't include blacks or women? Brickbat May 2012 #229

the FarRightFist often has a little trouble with facts, yet speaks with such authority Dragonfli May 2012 #238

You might want to retract that statement. It is false. sabrina 1 May 2012 #300

Watch this documentary and educate yourself. WorseBeforeBetter May 2012 #316

Because they small blood in the water abelenkpe May 2012 #101

No use discussing it with her! n-t Logical May 2012 #161

You're right. ProSense May 2012 #168

So you are happy with the current situation where JP Morgan loses $2b and the Pres pats rhett o rick May 2012 #312

Well..... cliffordu May 2012 #26

I'm with ya. n/t zentrum May 2012 #29

Better Believe It! cliffordu May 2012 #33

Please ProSense May 2012 #32

Wow, you unhappy with a Obama critic! What a shock! Logical May 2012 #165

That's not true, Manny. The President thinks about us pscot May 2012 #34

Maybe if we ProSense May 2012 #37

Maybe if Obama was not so gullible we would fight harder! Logical May 2012 #162

The Washington Generals do the best they can!!! Dragonfli May 2012 #197

Alright, LOL AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #84

Expect to be roasted alive by the Democratic Party apologists here. begin_within May 2012 #35

gee, democrats on a site called DU. how odd. dionysus May 2012 #55

... SidDithers May 2012 #65

huh?humm?wot?oh . . . yeah bigtree May 2012 #195

Well if Manny is gonna make up shit, he is gonna get pushback emulatorloo May 2012 #223

Well gee. What party do you belong to? treestar May 2012 #227

Do I like where we are? awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #39

Well said Manny. pa28 May 2012 #41

Also well said dflprincess May 2012 #51

Human Psychology is involved of course. NS2012 May 2012 #42

Obama ran on a public option. Then threw it in the trash. MannyGoldstein May 2012 #46

Touche. NS2012 May 2012 #50

Maybe ProSense May 2012 #53

still can't count to 60, huh? dionysus May 2012 #58

How many votes were needed to pass ObamaCare? MannyGoldstein May 2012 #61

i'll just leave you to campaign against the dems to your little hearts content. dionysus May 2012 #62

Are you having trouble counting? MannyGoldstein May 2012 #63

i'm having trouble taking your act seriously. dionysus May 2012 #98

You brought it up; so how many votes MannyGoldstein May 2012 #114

Jesus H. Christ, you're arguing like a teabagger against Obama. DU is no place for Obama haters. FarLeftFist May 2012 #89

OCDS OnyxCollie May 2012 #93

He's arguing for Democratic party values. n/t pa28 May 2012 #105

He's arguing for (d)emocratic values. nt OnyxCollie May 2012 #113

He's distorting the facts. Dems and Republicans are the same? See Texas, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin emulatorloo May 2012 #215

"haters" and "bashers" and critics oh my, I for one think Obama is Christlike Dragonfli May 2012 #188

Post removed Post removed May 2012 #198

For what? Dragonfli May 2012 #201

sigh... chervilant May 2012 #160

I agree. Beacool May 2012 #45

Here's ProSense May 2012 #49

I know my history. Beacool May 2012 #64

So ProSense May 2012 #72

Of course he gets credit for signing the bill. Beacool May 2012 #178

and where have you been lately.. hmmm? dionysus May 2012 #75

A new banky!!!! Beacool May 2012 #94

So, what's your fucking point? Got a fucking solution? DevonRex May 2012 #48

oh, he's just picking up the slack for BBI. someone has to break the DU TOS with damn near every dionysus May 2012 #56

Yup... SidDithers May 2012 #68

Yep, your new target is in sight, you guys will cleanse the site of him promptly Dragonfli May 2012 #189

... SidDithers May 2012 #262

. Dragonfli May 2012 #271

? bvar22 May 2012 #253

OOo I want to punch some hippies, can I? (I am newly converted to Third Way Ideology, HARD CORE) Dragonfli May 2012 #277

I've got a really fucking easy solution: PROSECUTE WAR CRIMINALS just1voice May 2012 #108

That would be justice duhneece May 2012 #173

Recognizing the problem is the first step to finding a solution Blecht May 2012 #131

Maybe you typing "fucking" helps! LOL Logical May 2012 #164

lulz bubbalubagus May 2012 #176

That's exactly what the GOP wants you to believe. baldguy May 2012 #52

+1 n/t FSogol May 2012 #57

Most Modern Day Democrats Aren't The Same... They're Worse... They Have No Will To Fight... WillyT May 2012 #60

Not tail between the legs. Complicit. woo me with science May 2012 #209

Nothing like twisting the OP's words into something you want them to say Blecht May 2012 #76

x 2 AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #128

Yep... WiffenPoof May 2012 #133

Do you know how you get better Democrats? baldguy May 2012 #138

Tell that to Bill Halter and Ned Lamont OnyxCollie May 2012 #234

In all fairness they are consistent and are less than enthusiastic re the Walker recall as well /nt Dragonfli May 2012 #242

Take your straw man somewhere else Blecht May 2012 #313

Saying Democratic politicians and Republican politicians are the same can only help Republicans. baldguy May 2012 #317

Done Blecht May 2012 #332

OP says "both parties work for the 1%" muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #190

If "both parties work for the 1%," and if I am a member of the Democratic Party, where's my pay? AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #235

I suggest you put your concerns to Manny muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #259

No thank you. You are saying that he's expressing himself badly. I am not. 208 recs and counting AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #265

This message was self-deleted by its author SidDithers May 2012 #269

So why did you find a problem with "both parties work for the 1%"? muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #274

Obviously, or it should be obvious, you are using Manning's phrase out of context to mean something AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #282

Both working for the 1% = same? Blecht May 2012 #314

The OP makes no attempt to point out any differences muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #333

He says they have done the same thing -- Blecht May 2012 #339

Amen. Plus the idea they are all corrupt just leads to apathy treestar May 2012 #230

Again, why do we care about what the GOP wants?? sabrina 1 May 2012 #294

Because the GOP spreads bullshit ideas like "Both parties are the same" baldguy May 2012 #335

keep trying manny. thank god you're here to pick up the slack. dionysus May 2012 #54

You better believe it! treestar May 2012 #228

What utter 3rd party advocating, GOP assisting, vote suppressing fresh hell is this? Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #66

Agreed. The Republicans are wholly owned. MrSlayer May 2012 #67

You get the Democrats that you can get elected, where ever you can get them elected MrScorpio May 2012 #70

The feeling is mutual. Zax2me May 2012 #73

Follow the Money! AynRandCollectedSS May 2012 #74

Welcome to DU, and I love your name! Quantess May 2012 #82

Thanks! AynRandCollectedSS May 2012 #140

Bullshit. OnyxCollie May 2012 #86

How polite and subtle of you... AynRandCollectedSS May 2012 #142

You wrote, OnyxCollie May 2012 #232

Follow the money is good advice. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #87

And as much as I wish the banksters were rotting in prison... AynRandCollectedSS May 2012 #143

You're right. It will be more than $2 billion. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #214

I see progress although, like you, I wish it were more pronounced... AynRandCollectedSS May 2012 #298

Yes. Although the official story is that a law firm "accidentally" released it, I'd like to believe AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #303

And maybe if there had been prosecutions immediately after the Meltdown sabrina 1 May 2012 #296

We can't follow the money. It has been flowing to the 1% for the past 20 years, and jtuck004 May 2012 #120

:) AynRandCollectedSS May 2012 #144

What's actually happening can't be described in so few words. caseymoz May 2012 #79

"both parties work for the 1%" Blecht May 2012 #80

You've just realized this? CountAllVotes May 2012 #85

You think you got troubles? Up here in Canada we have 4 or 5 parties GliderGuider May 2012 #88

Both parties work for the 1%? JamesJ May 2012 #92

Actually, chervilant May 2012 #153

Lyndon Johnson was a great politician. He was able to get the Civil Rights act passed, blue neen May 2012 #96

I learned that lesson in 2010. BlueIris May 2012 #99

We are in the USA Rosa Luxemburg May 2012 #100

Huge K&R. Thanks Manny. jannyk May 2012 #102

As a woman in Greece said "we traded civility for corruption" just1voice May 2012 #104

Yep. Rex May 2012 #106

DU Rec for a rare cutting through the bullshit. woo me with science May 2012 #109

Will you be voting for Nader again? ecstatic May 2012 #111

Why Nader? Is he still being true to traditional Democratic principles? AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #130

Big thumbsup, Manny! tex-wyo-dem May 2012 #112

You and I are not in The Club, Manny. bluedigger May 2012 #118

K&R DeSwiss May 2012 #123

Funny how posting leftie stuff here makes one fearful of banning. Poll_Blind May 2012 #125

One of the most truthful and significant posts I've ever seen from you MG. obxhead May 2012 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author obxhead May 2012 #127

If they toss you for this they can toss me too donheld May 2012 #129

The Scooby gang likes to take them out one at a time. Dragonfli May 2012 #207

I had a post hidden a couple days ago... Larry Ogg May 2012 #288

"when it comes to the psychology of the mind, they are as much a Right Wing Authoritarian as any Dragonfli May 2012 #322

Now, now, I did learn from them that Harry Belafonte's... WorseBeforeBetter May 2012 #320

such certitude indeed, regardless of objective truth, /nt Dragonfli May 2012 #323

They remind me of W's true believers. WorseBeforeBetter May 2012 #327

That is because they are psychologically the same, authoritarian followers of what they perceive Dragonfli May 2012 #328

durec Amster Dan May 2012 #134

Agree nt Raine May 2012 #135

Sorry Manny, I have to disagree.. Fumesucker May 2012 #137

'Willfully ignorant...' chervilant May 2012 #155

I believe that my Senator and Rep care about people like me- if not me cali May 2012 #148

Same as it ever was. Check the sigline. K&R Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #149

DC's stopped caring about pretending to care: blkmusclmachine May 2012 #150

Thank you for speaking the sad truth. K&R. Vidar May 2012 #152

And this Thread perfectly demonstrates why we need Unrec...nt SidDithers May 2012 #154

no, it means someone should enforce the Terms of Service for the site... dionysus May 2012 #202

Yes, about as clear a TOS violation as there is. nt stevenleser May 2012 #291

Thanks for speaking the simple truth CanonRay May 2012 #156

Dissent is the highest form of patriotism-- thanks Manny! crunch60 May 2012 #255

Wow... chervilant May 2012 #158

gad, that's such a bad argument, dear. cali May 2012 #159

Gosh... chervilant May 2012 #163

And you, "dear", are engaging in Argument Ad Hominem. Why not stick to the subject, rather than Romulox May 2012 #171

no, I'm not. the discussion of rhetoric is often appropriate here cali May 2012 #175

Direct quote: "Hackneyed and difficult to argue with as the person employing this cheapo tactic" Romulox May 2012 #177

Did you bother reading the OP? "both parties work for the 1%" muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #196

And I was so sure this OP was going to announce the start of the Progressive Prz 2016 JoePhilly May 2012 #166

Got that right, there is no more democracy, there is only oligarchy of the 1%. K&R mother earth May 2012 #167

This thread is one example why JonLP24 May 2012 #170

The Status Quo is the ONLY realistic system possible. Remember that, and you'll be fine. Romulox May 2012 #172

K&R Carolina May 2012 #174

The only people in our corner.... 99Forever May 2012 #179

Republicans are ProSense May 2012 #182

Why would I.. 99Forever May 2012 #184

Except ProSense May 2012 #185

As overly verbose as you are... 99Forever May 2012 #187

except those who believe blindly..that is not us..thats what they turned us into..non thinkers xiamiam May 2012 #206

Welcome to America Glaisne May 2012 #181

Yup, ProSense May 2012 #186

Of course this is correct.. sendero May 2012 #204

Economics, war, and the police state. woo me with science May 2012 #210

Somebody needs a hug. randome May 2012 #205

manny, actually most people know this now, maybe not on the new du, but out here in america xiamiam May 2012 #211

Get you "tossed off of DU?" Your divisive, unintelligent, overused and incorrect OP got 173 recs. great white snark May 2012 #212

Fuckin' A Bubba! Fuddnik May 2012 #216

Ah yes, "Obama's Secret Plan" emulatorloo May 2012 #217

Since.. 99Forever May 2012 #218

That this OP is typical of Manny. He often tells us of Obama's Secret Plan to Destroy Social Securit emulatorloo May 2012 #236

So.. 99Forever May 2012 #245

Actually no. Manny creates strawman Democrats emulatorloo May 2012 #257

Oh my... 99Forever May 2012 #264

Well let's see. Find where I claimed Manny could not post his opinion here emulatorloo May 2012 #266

Sorry.. 99Forever May 2012 #276

You put words in my mouth, I called you on it. emulatorloo May 2012 #289

What fucking claim would that be? 99Forever May 2012 #293

You busted me on nothing. Stop bothering me now. emulatorloo May 2012 #297

Don't use logical falacies to make your point.. 99Forever May 2012 #304

Read the news sometime, you might learn something just1voice May 2012 #250

Pick one. Let's get it on. MannyGoldstein May 2012 #307

You do realize Manny that they have nothing and so will ignore your challenge Dragonfli May 2012 #326

Your hypothesis seems correct. MannyGoldstein May 2012 #340

You're right, of course. The snark attack words, with quote marks, don't appear anywhere in the OP. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #241

Simpson/Bowles was a very poorly kept secret. Dragonfli May 2012 #239

If you want to know sulphurdunn May 2012 #221

I wished Manny would stop with his rightwing enabling crapola. Swede May 2012 #222

Telling the truth is NOT "rightwing enabling", it's the opposite just1voice May 2012 #248

Well said. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #252

My opinion is: someone saying Dem=GOP=win for the GOP by voter suppression. Swede May 2012 #272

You are in the wrong OP then, He never said Dem=GOP, you putting those words in his mouth Dragonfli May 2012 #273

That is EXACTLY what Manny said. He said Dems and Repugs both work for the 1% that means stevenleser May 2012 #292

Actually, he said "both parties work for the 1%." AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #305

I admire how you patiently explain this to one willfully trying to misread the post Dragonfli May 2012 #325

In your mind perhaps, feel free to rewrite the OP at will, I will still read the actual OP Dragonfli May 2012 #324

You're right, to an extent davidthegnome May 2012 #224

I don't expect them to - I expect them to care about the country as a whole treestar May 2012 #225

I agree, "everybody counts", mostly they count how much you donate Dragonfli May 2012 #243

That wouldn't really work though, would it? treestar May 2012 #244

That is what all the promises are for, the ones they tell to get elected and then do the opposite Dragonfli May 2012 #246

Like Scott Walker, kissing his billionaire donor, Diane Hendricks, while he crunch60 May 2012 #270

183 recs and counting. As long as DU3 has an ignore button, those who want orthodoxy instead of AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #226

If Manny's OP's could survive a fact check, I would recommend it. emulatorloo May 2012 #237

You saw something that I didn't. I didn't see a reference to the Ryan Plan in Manny's OP. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #240

You are being a bit too literal minded. emulatorloo May 2012 #267

Also, you have to squint a little, and cover your left eye, but it's in there I swear!!! /nt Dragonfli May 2012 #278

Too literal minded? "Yes" if you mean understanding the words that were used AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #281

I posted this on another thread a few days ago, I agree with you, crunch60 May 2012 #247

Traditional Democratic Party Values bvar22 May 2012 #254

My ex is a die hard O'reilly watching, Limbaugh listening GOPER. This is the only thing we agreed jillan May 2012 #260

Respectfully, your ex is wrong. While Repubs have uniform beliefs, the Democratic Party consists AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #268

+1,000,000,000,000 HiPointDem May 2012 #261

Carlin's "the American Dream" and he's 100% correct TBF May 2012 #275

+1 Go Vols May 2012 #301

Well, Manny, chervilant May 2012 #279

Since this is now election season, I was hoping to get more bones thrown at us for a few months. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #284

Then stand up with the 99.5% and join Wolf-PAC Exultant Democracy May 2012 #280

The last time I said something like this Leontius May 2012 #283

You know, I'm usually quick to come to the defense of the Dems because of the gateley May 2012 #285

The Dems are systematically purging the Progessives from the party Dont call me Shirley May 2012 #286

yes, that has been going on sice at least clinton and his de-regulation, free trade, welfare killing Dragonfli May 2012 #330

werd up. KG May 2012 #287

DAMN STRAIGHT, MANNY Skittles May 2012 #290

I totally agree with you Manny... Larry Ogg May 2012 #295

My great grandfather was considered a "Democrat leader" DaveJ May 2012 #299

I think the power structure in this country felix_numinous May 2012 #302

HA!! Been saying that for ages! Brooklyn Dame May 2012 #308

I agree with you Manny Autumn May 2012 #315

Democrats are still better, but neither party seems to.. mvd May 2012 #318

I'm sorry that your hard work is not being effective. blue neen May 2012 #319

You really need to clarify that, on it's surface it came off as a "left handed compliment" Dragonfli May 2012 #329

To everyone who recced this thread: Poll_Blind May 2012 #321

K&R invictus May 2012 #341