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NanceGreggs

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137. It's always telling ...

Wed Jul 8, 2015, 10:15 PM

Jul 2015

... when someone characterizes the facts being pointed out to them as "hateful attacks".

I will continue to point out actual "facts" in response to fact-less posts - be they yours, or anyone else's. If you don't see them, it is of no consequence - because others here will.

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Holy Moly! Holder "sees striking a deal" with Snowden to return to USA. This is huge. [View all] 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 OP

He would be foolish to return to the states. nt avebury Jul 2015 #1

he is foolish nt arely staircase Jul 2015 #2

The only fools are his detractors. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #6

he should stay on his russian beet farm nt arely staircase Jul 2015 #7

As I said, the only fools are his detractors. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #11

Ignorant drive by's gotta drive, BillZ MrMickeysMom Jul 2015 #109

Baloney. Darb Jul 2015 #138

Ahh, how cute, a Snowden hater! nt Logical Jul 2015 #25

I view him as a hero for the people. 840high Jul 2015 #40

depends on what people arely staircase Jul 2015 #44

All people. nt Chef Eric Jul 2015 #96

aw, thats cute. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #125

Not if he had an ironclad settlement with the government. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #5

He's going to have to give something to get that good of a deal. Chan790 Jul 2015 #14

He's already given something, the TRUTH 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #16

The truth is not a bargaining chip for a better deal from DoJ. Chan790 Jul 2015 #19

In your view, should "the government" EVER admit it's been wrong, and change it's tune? 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #24

"Should" is irrelevant. Chan790 Jul 2015 #28

OK then. Forget the "should" ... riddle me this 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #30

Eventually perhaps... Chan790 Jul 2015 #33

I try to never say never 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #35

I'm just cynical. Chan790 Jul 2015 #46

I know it sounds naive but isn't a victory for us a victory for them? We are the government, I Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #52

Try to convince our owners of that. -none Jul 2015 #53

+100 my sentiments exactly nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #61

No, they'll do it (if they do) because they've been shamed into it 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #60

How about the exposure of legal and legitimate... Adrahil Jul 2015 #23

Not getting into this. It is old. nt arely staircase Jul 2015 #37

A terrible blow to the NSA lovers LittleBlue Jul 2015 #3

please elaborate arely staircase Jul 2015 #8

They were adamant that Snowden's revelations were old and wouldn't accomplish anything LittleBlue Jul 2015 #21

Are there "NSA lovers" on DU? NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #107

The anti Snowden mouth foamers LittleBlue Jul 2015 #108

That's what I thought. NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #110

Most of the ones on this site attacking Snowden do so LittleBlue Jul 2015 #111

Like I said ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #112

Even on gay marriage and abortion rights? LittleBlue Jul 2015 #113

At this point ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #114

That's what I thought LittleBlue Jul 2015 #115

You just had your ass handed to you, that's all. n/t ronnie624 Jul 2015 #120

Yeah. NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #121

In my opinion, those 'liberals' and 'progressives' ronnie624 Jul 2015 #123

And thanks for providing another example ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #124

Don't you know Nance.... Darb Jul 2015 #139

Yes. LeftOfWest Jul 2015 #154

You might want to think about proof reading. Marr Jul 2015 #150

What's comedic ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #151

Oh, I realize you were insulting someone again. Marr Jul 2015 #156

Take this argument up with ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #157

I'm taking it up with you. Marr Jul 2015 #158

Oh, I see. NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #159

Not exactly. Marr Jul 2015 #160

LOL, don't feel so bad, many were totally wrong about Snowden! nt Logical Jul 2015 #27

"former", "think", "possibility", "may", "some day". n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #4

Coming from a high ranking official, those words are pretty powerful. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #9

Holder is no longer ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #129

Holder holds zero cred with me. NV Whino Jul 2015 #10

I'm sure Holder is just torn up to hear this. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #12

He's probably shaking in his boots. NV Whino Jul 2015 #39

Beware of ex Attorney Generals pscot Jul 2015 #13

Holder has no authority to strike a deal with anyone. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #15

+1 (nt) enough Jul 2015 #17

Oh, don't go ruining the fun by stating the obvious, now!! MADem Jul 2015 #47

No one is invested in any such thing. ronnie624 Jul 2015 #122

Oh boy....the "hatred" word!! MADem Jul 2015 #140

It was your post I spoke of. ronnie624 Jul 2015 #148

Who's a victim? You're the one getting all "personal" here. MADem Jul 2015 #149

He didn't say he did treestar Jul 2015 #99

Huh MFrohike Jul 2015 #18

Good for Holder. Good for Snowden. elias49 Jul 2015 #20

How in happy Hades is Holder supposed to 'do' anything? He's a PRIVATE CITIZEN. MADem Jul 2015 #48

Putin's pal. St Ed. elias49 Jul 2015 #54

Yeah, this is HUGH all right - not to mention SERIES!!! NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #22

U ask "How on earth did you get the phrase "Holder 'striking a deal' with Snowden" out of THAT article?" 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #29

Only one BIG problem with that ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #32

As I've already said, I was quoting FROM the article itself, period. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #57

The quote in your title omits a key word . . . markpkessinger Jul 2015 #68

OK, I like that suggestion. So be it. nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #70

Cheers! n/t markpkessinger Jul 2015 #78

And you were attributing a quote to Holden that he never stated ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #74

I think your snark got away from you 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #75

My happiness has nothing to do with it. NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #83

My title does NOT say Holder is still AG 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #85

What started this discussion ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #97

This is just silly. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #98

Well, if you consider ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #104

I did read the article, but admittedly misinterpreted it. Sue me, Alert me, whatever 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #117

What was apparent ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #118

That wasn't a fork 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #119

He can strike a deal today if he'd like--it doesn't take a former AG to figure that out. MADem Jul 2015 #49

I love the 'clickbait' lament elias49 Jul 2015 #56

That's why you're chasing me round this thread telling me how you don't like my opinion, mmmmhhh? MADem Jul 2015 #141

Bwahaha. elias49 Jul 2015 #143

And here you are, again...not caring, of course! MADem Jul 2015 #146

Look closer Mad...it's been you following ME. elias49 Jul 2015 #147

Newsflash: Holder throws flamingdem Jul 2015 #26

That's 'The Believers', please. Capitalization is important. randome Jul 2015 #45

Snowden or bust! flamingdem Jul 2015 #81

It would be huge if he was still attorney general. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #31

OK, I am assuming he's just might have a weentsy-bit of influence with Obama 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #34

I bet he does. 840high Jul 2015 #41

He had the ability to make this happen when he was Attorney General. He didn't. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #43

Yet he did not use that influence while he was Attorney General. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #55

Goodnt realFedUp Jul 2015 #36

He is working for a firm lobbying for banks. City Lights Jul 2015 #38

Were I Edward Snowden I would say Aerows Jul 2015 #42

The first article on this doesn't say "without jail time" Eric J in MN Jul 2015 #50

Huge for Snowden. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #51

"His actions spurred a necessary debate. We are in a different place as a result of Snowden's deurbano Jul 2015 #58

Interesting point 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #62

Not sure about the title rtracey Jul 2015 #59

Unlike Gonzalas, Holder served honorably, with distinction and is well-respected 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #64

Stop your idiocy rtracey Jul 2015 #79

Thank you Captain Obvious. Holder's not current AG? Really. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #82

wow...nevermind rtracey Jul 2015 #87

The title was only "misleading" to those who still think Holder is AG 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #89

look at the comments rtracey Jul 2015 #90

I changed the title to Holder "SEES striking deal" quoting the linked article 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #91

you are creating the mountain from a molehill rtracey Jul 2015 #103

Striking a deal? n2doc Jul 2015 #63

He is creating a smokescreen to shield his current return to law group, that lobbies for Big Banks TheNutcracker Jul 2015 #65

I don't doubt that your assessment is somewhat accurate, 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #69

Seems the only two types of people in the world are NSA Apologists or Snowden Fanboys LanternWaste Jul 2015 #66

Holder is no longer AG . . . markpkessinger Jul 2015 #67

I never said Holder is still AG. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #72

It's called a federal plea deal in exchange for his testimony. msanthrope Jul 2015 #71

Uh oh! How can these people be trusted? joanbarnes Jul 2015 #73

It's a trap. DawgHouse Jul 2015 #76

Thread winner....no matter what side of the whole Snowden debate one lands on!!! nt MADem Jul 2015 #142

This is BS, plain and simple Demeter Jul 2015 #77

Don't trust them Ed! Helen Borg Jul 2015 #80

I'm inclined to agree with you 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #84

Enough weasel words in that one sentence to make a boogle! (Yes, I looked it up!) randome Jul 2015 #86

Be very, very careful Mr. Snowden. senz Jul 2015 #88

Right! How can you trust a guy like President Obama? brooklynite Jul 2015 #95

First, Holder does not represent the President. senz Jul 2015 #100

So you're saying President Obama doesn't control the Government... brooklynite Jul 2015 #105

No, I'm saying Holder doesn't work for Obama, and Obama cannot control all the crazies in the U.S. senz Jul 2015 #126

"Even if Holder were sincere ..." NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #106

Yes, the story is rather preposterous, isn't it? senz Jul 2015 #127

No Deal. Full and complete presidential pardon followed by Medal of Freedom on point Jul 2015 #92

I actually tend to agree with you & others who've expressed similar concerns. nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #93

As with the Greek Government... brooklynite Jul 2015 #94

let's get'em back fadedrose Jul 2015 #101

Current AG has already nixed this trial balloon by Holder 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #102

Doesn't he have to have a trial? fadedrose Jul 2015 #116

It's all pretty much moot apparently, since DoJ has said "no change in position" 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #131

I was thinking about the rich guy who Clinton pardoned fadedrose Jul 2015 #132

Sorry, I don't recall the Clinton/Mark Rich thing, 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #133

Can you provide a link ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #128

22 Hours between The Hill article and the CNN article 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #130

Try using at least a modicum of common sense ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #134

I'm through with your hateful attacks. Welcome to my ignore list. nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #136

It's always telling ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #137

You're way too invested in hatred. Evidence your endless pursuit of Snowden elias49 Jul 2015 #144

The discussion had nothing to do with ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #145

Well said. LeftOfWest Jul 2015 #153

This is bull. FiveGoodMen Jul 2015 #135

I'm sure Snowden is smarter than this ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #152

I'd prefer he stays overseas. B Calm Jul 2015 #155