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BFEE Just Us [View all] Octafish Jul 2015 OP
Sick bastards! Kicking AuntPatsy Jul 2015 #1
It's been a long, long run of helping the Have-Mores become the Have-Most. Octafish Jul 2015 #5
I may not always reply madokie Jul 2015 #7
+1 think Jul 2015 #9
Abso-fvcking-lutely. blm Jul 2015 #85
yes G_j Jul 2015 #241
I tried to warn those around me of these sleezy low grade criminals, I was ridiculed AuntPatsy Jul 2015 #14
your MS Word files must be sorted by greatness snooper2 Jul 2015 #2
Key Word Octafish Jul 2015 #8
k&r questionseverything Jul 2015 #104
You keep on telling it like it is. I'll have your back. shraby Jul 2015 #3
Online Covert Actions Octafish Jul 2015 #16
I'm sorry marym625 Jul 2015 #4
He is one of the folks defending Cosby on the basis of "never convicted" stevenleser Jul 2015 #22
I defended the right to be innocent until proven guilty. Octafish Jul 2015 #29
And in fact one of the things I have noticed on MSNBC is that they are doing exactly that. If they jwirr Jul 2015 #98
Um, if Cosby hsn't been proven guilty, then why... Nitram Jul 2015 #102
Uh, because I think even the worst of the BFEE also deserve a fair trial. Octafish Jul 2015 #208
I don't think anyone has said Cosby doesn't deserve a trial. Nitram Jul 2015 #211
You are trying to smear him for defending justice. He clearly is not defending Mr. Cosby. rhett o rick Jul 2015 #57
Smear him? His hypocrisy on Cosby versus pronouncing the BFEE guilty is staggering stevenleser Jul 2015 #62
I thought Foley was never convicted? Isn't he as innocent as a lamb too? bettyellen Jul 2015 #166
I'll bet if we did searches we would find hundreds of examples when he accused folks of things stevenleser Jul 2015 #192
Then GOOGLE and show, stevenleser. Octafish Jul 2015 #205
How many more do you need? We have already mentioned Bush, Cheney and the BFEE. Isn't that enough? stevenleser Jul 2015 #210
So, you've got nothing. Octafish Jul 2015 #217
This is the kind of debater you are. Half a dozen to a dozen of us have provided you several stevenleser Jul 2015 #218
It's a simple question: ''Show where I am wrong.'' Octafish Jul 2015 #236
He is NOT defending Cosby, Steven tkmorris Jul 2015 #90
Oh yes, he is, and he is asserting a standard he never applies elsewhere. It's obvious. stevenleser Jul 2015 #91
he applied a whole other standard of judgment toward Cosby..... bettyellen Jul 2015 #169
Thank you, marym625. Looking back, I admire the overall work as a most splendid smear. Octafish Jul 2015 #26
Well said sir. You, and those that speak the truth will always be a target. rhett o rick Jul 2015 #67
yep nt G_j Jul 2015 #209
Mocking is a tactic used rhett o rick Jul 2015 #68
this post cannot be heaven05 Jul 2015 #113
Hail Bartcop Hail Octafish If the world was fair Joni Ernst would be folding breadbags this summer. IADEMO2004 Jul 2015 #6
The Tea Party's Endgame Octafish Jul 2015 #58
Don't sweat it Octa whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #10
Jury results.......... nc4bo Jul 2015 #20
hahaha` grasswire Jul 2015 #24
This session has been called to resolve a troubling matter. Marty McGraw Jul 2015 #36
well done jury!!! navarth Jul 2015 #42
Thanks to the alerter for the explanation and the indication of a big problem rhett o rick Jul 2015 #54
At this point Nevernose Jul 2015 #153
A 3-4. I see. SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #61
Democracy needs treat all the same under the law. What group gets ahead? Octafish Jul 2015 #65
Kick in solidarity nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #11
The CIA Role in the Savings & Loan Crisis Octafish Jul 2015 #69
The whole S&L crisis and Neil Bush's role in it has been allowed to drop into the memory hole! LongTomH Jul 2015 #116
JEB's own role in the S&L thing was overshadowed, if possible, by SILVERADO Neil. Octafish Jul 2015 #139
Kick. madfloridian Jul 2015 #12
The CIA: Banking on Intelligence Octafish Jul 2015 #71
And recommend nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #13
Pete Brewton: The Mafia, CIA & George Bush Octafish Jul 2015 #86
K & huge fucking R CrawlingChaos Jul 2015 #15
NSA docs contradict Bush Jr 9/11 claims Octafish Jul 2015 #100
This message was self-deleted by its author YoungDemCA Jul 2015 #131
Excellent. Thank you Octafish CrawlingChaos Jul 2015 #140
I think the point was that serial rapists are also disdainful BainsBane Jul 2015 #17
Yep. And the analogy is a good one. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #23
Yeah, pretty simple. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #43
And he didn't directly address the issue that this OP is really about. The OP is manipulation stevenleser Jul 2015 #56
Yup... SidDithers Jul 2015 #66
I've asked you over the years to show where I'm wrong about the BFEE. Octafish Jul 2015 #77
The criticism is about your response to Bill Cosby, not Bush BainsBane Jul 2015 #106
No, not really, BainsBane. Octafish Jul 2015 #119
What was the topic of the thread you were in where it was raised? BainsBane Jul 2015 #121
''Whoopi is still saying Cosby innocent until proven guilty'' Octafish Jul 2015 #124
You are correct that he LEGALLLY has not been found guilty BainsBane Jul 2015 #132
Then why make a big deal of what I didn't say? Octafish Jul 2015 #137
You chose to write an OP BainsBane Jul 2015 #151
You claim Foley is guilty- but that statute of limitations ran out too. Same shit, different story bettyellen Jul 2015 #170
And with his response to you, down you go down the rabbit hole. He's even telling you what you stevenleser Jul 2015 #120
Please show where I wrote any of that. Octafish Jul 2015 #123
I am genuinely puzzled by the double standard. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #73
This is what I have come to expect from discussions with that person stevenleser Jul 2015 #75
OMG, and he did it to Sid just above. Exactly the kind of crap I said he does. stevenleser Jul 2015 #81
So now I can't reply on my own thread? Octafish Jul 2015 #82
Yes, of course that's what my comment means. Strawman much? Actually calling that a strawman is stevenleser Jul 2015 #83
Right. Like 'taking some piece of what the person actually said and twisting it' isn't what you did. Octafish Jul 2015 #88
Nope, and several other folks agreed that is the upshot of what you wrote. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #89
'Make the comparison between his positions on Cosby and the BFEE and he accuses you of supporting... Octafish Jul 2015 #92
Here, you accused me of supporting the BFEE. "Stick with the BFEE Stevenleser" stevenleser Jul 2015 #94
Because that was the subject of the post? Octafish Jul 2015 #97
Explain to me why you think a serial rapist with 48 complaints BainsBane Jul 2015 #108
Hoist on his own whatchamacallit! bettyellen Jul 2015 #173
Over 24 hours later and the response to you is <crickets> stevenleser Jul 2015 #252
Yeah. Like where I've asked you up and down this thread to show where I'm wrong. Octafish Jul 2015 #274
I've shown you. Bainsbane has shown you, BettyEllen has shown you stevenleser Jul 2015 #275
Yup. zappaman Jul 2015 #277
Repeating the same strawman over and over doesn't make it correct, stevenleser. Octafish Jul 2015 #78
This OP and the links I provided where folks can read the other comments is all the evidence I need. stevenleser Jul 2015 #79
No. The Point Is JUSTICE. Octafish Jul 2015 #148
Justice indeed BainsBane Jul 2015 #152
I didn't know I had to write what you wanted me to write. Octafish Jul 2015 #154
I asked you questions, which you consistently refuse to answer BainsBane Jul 2015 #155
Not really, when you look at what I wrote and what you asked. Octafish Jul 2015 #157
Interested in discussion? BainsBane Jul 2015 #158
Dude... OnyxCollie Jul 2015 #18
How VP Poppy Bush of CIA got real big when Pruneface Raygun was ''Head Honcho'' Octafish Jul 2015 #95
You're one of the most right-on DU'ers of all. I treasure your posts, and the knowlege behind them. NBachers Jul 2015 #19
One Morn' in Sherwood Forest... Octafish Jul 2015 #115
The all American fascist family. n/t PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #21
Experts Agree! Octafish Jul 2015 #122
K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #25
Is David Petraeus Dirty? Ted Westhusing Said So, and Then He Shot Himself. Octafish Jul 2015 #130
Yes She Does... Thank You For That !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #136
Ha I have connections to both Bushes and Smedly Butler (my Grandfather met and admired him). gordianot Jul 2015 #27
Smedley Butler is STILL considered a real hero to jomin41 Jul 2015 #87
My kids never heard of Butler from school before 2004, I made sure they did. gordianot Jul 2015 #103
Glad you are. Great family and a great family name, Bush. Octafish Jul 2015 #161
Odd my relative met his cousin Bush on his Grandfathers oil field in Kansas. gordianot Jul 2015 #183
k and r and bookmarking for later reading. niyad Jul 2015 #28
Remember how Rove really liked to fire and promote US Attorneys? Octafish Jul 2015 #168
oh, how well I remember (and wish I could forget) old turd blossom. niyad Jul 2015 #171
Too many don't know what they've done to the country and to Don Siegelman. Octafish Jul 2015 #177
there are days I don't think we can ever set things right. niyad Jul 2015 #180
The way the playing field is currently laid out, no. Octafish Jul 2015 #184
Octafish, you're one of the reasons I still send people to DU. canoeist52 Jul 2015 #30
The Bush dynasty and the Cuban criminals Octafish Jul 2015 #188
I would never mock you for your post. SoapBox Jul 2015 #31
Mark Lombardi knew Bush-Bath-bin-Laden connection in 1999. Octafish Jul 2015 #189
Keep it up. Too many want to whitewash the past and "move-on". jalan48 Jul 2015 #32
The Rise of a ‘Democratic’ Fascism Octafish Jul 2015 #190
The day you get drummed out of here, is the day this Cleita Jul 2015 #33
+100000000 nashville_brook Jul 2015 #39
I think Cosby is a creepy rapist Hydra Jul 2015 #34
Some never get the opportunity. Remember GOP US Attorney John David R. Atchison? Octafish Jul 2015 #141
I remember the case being posted here, and the Repubs being upset about it being their team again Hydra Jul 2015 #187
A lot of them settled in Huntsville, helping the Army build rockets, boosters, and what-all. Octafish Jul 2015 #194
Keep 'em coming!!! malaise Jul 2015 #35
NONE of this is old news, malaise. Especially to those touched by BFEE. Octafish Jul 2015 #197
There's a lot of child preadators and serial adulterers popping up in the GOP lately. Initech Jul 2015 #37
What to those who kill millions for oil and gold is abusing a child? Octafish Jul 2015 #198
I remember when the Sandusky scandal broke. Initech Jul 2015 #204
Strange how quickly the 'media' forget. Remember that nice juvie Judge in business with the prisons? Octafish Jul 2015 #206
K&R 2naSalit Jul 2015 #38
Poppy Bush Strikes Gold! Octafish Jul 2015 #199
You're quite welcome Octafish... 2naSalit Jul 2015 #300
strange days. thank you for the work you do! nashville_brook Jul 2015 #40
The Machine: Taking the Risk out of Democracy, Corporate Propaganda vs Freedom & Liberty Octafish Jul 2015 #200
You're one of the few out there always worth reading. rwsanders Jul 2015 #41
BFEE judge Silberman compared people who say ''Bush lied America into war'' to NAZIs. Octafish Jul 2015 #203
K&R&bookmark. JEB Jul 2015 #44
Banksters plus secret inside information is Wall Street on the Potomac. Octafish Jul 2015 #242
Same here RobertEarl Jul 2015 #45
That is all I want. Octafish Jul 2015 #256
Thanks, Octafish. Love your posts, and this one was no exception. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #46
BFEE think they're above the law, which is different than just breaking it. Octafish Jul 2015 #257
Well done! Duppers Jul 2015 #47
You made my day, 5-4. Octafish Jul 2015 #258
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #48
You gotta go BFEE to get along in Iraq. Look who they sent to run the war. Octafish Jul 2015 #259
I only wish we could get justice. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #270
BRAVO! BRAVO! ........and is Bush... Hotler Jul 2015 #49
That is the fake journalist Jeff Gannon aka The Cannon, on-call 24/7. Octafish Jul 2015 #269
There is a movie out about Johnny Gosh aka Jeff Gannon. Hotler Jul 2015 #288
KnR! Looky here... Holly_Hobby Jul 2015 #50
Bush gave coin to Goldstar mother and said: ''Don't go selling it on e-Bay.'' Octafish Jul 2015 #289
The entire family reeks of Psychopathy on steroids Holly_Hobby Jul 2015 #291
* ''No WMDs here.'' Octafish Jul 2015 #292
Family and friends... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #51
I see what you did there. .... nc4bo Jul 2015 #53
Hard to tell who's spying on whom in that shot. Octafish Jul 2015 #290
Just another tool looking for their 15 minutes- sent here to distract. notadmblnd Jul 2015 #52
A missing art. Octafish Jul 2015 #293
I have learned so much from your azmom Jul 2015 #55
Key to present day: Secret Service didn't like African Americans in 1963. Ask Agent Abraham Bolden. Octafish Jul 2015 #295
k&r.. jiminey christmas!. . . . .n/t annabanana Jul 2015 #59
Corruption Touched CIA’s Covert Operations Octafish Jul 2015 #296
I wonder Octa.. annabanana Jul 2015 #299
A shot of Chinaco to Bartcop for teaching me about the BFEE corkhead Jul 2015 #60
You know who else Bartcop seemed to enjoy going after, corkhead? Pirates! Octafish Jul 2015 #297
Thank you very much. Bookmarking. SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #63
Thank you, SusanCalvin. I agree 100-percent. Octafish Jul 2015 #298
Kickin'....!!!! (eom) CanSocDem Jul 2015 #64
Richard Nixon's Blueprint for the 21st Century US Octafish Jul 2015 #302
Who is mocking? PM me. lonestarnot Jul 2015 #70
Post on, My Friend, post on! The BFEE and their sycophants are endemic of the fetid rot that... Raster Jul 2015 #72
Harold Pinter - Nobel Lecture on Truth, War and the Big Lie Octafish Jul 2015 #303
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jul 2015 #74
I've learned much from this OP but better yet... chknltl Jul 2015 #76
''No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money.'' -- Dr. Samuel Johnson. Octafish Jul 2015 #304
I noticed you never got an answer to your question about Cosby. Rex Jul 2015 #80
That's a sign, an inability to focus on the point and a talent to promote the freak show. Octafish Jul 2015 #305
Salute to my compatriot, Octafish. blm Jul 2015 #84
Dude, that's a bad case of bait-and-switch. How dishonest Android3.14 Jul 2015 #93
Exactly. Par from the course with him. And debates with him are like going down the rabbit hole stevenleser Jul 2015 #101
Yep BainsBane Jul 2015 #109
K&R for one of the best. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #96
Kick. GoneFishin Jul 2015 #99
K & R SalviaBlue Jul 2015 #105
I always bookmark your threads, O-Fish arikara Jul 2015 #107
Illegitimi non carborundum Demeter Jul 2015 #110
I will NEVER mock the truth heaven05 Jul 2015 #111
Hanging's too good for them. hifiguy Jul 2015 #112
K&R Paka Jul 2015 #114
Another K&R Keep posting about the BFEE LongTomH Jul 2015 #117
And let us not forget Marvin Bush... Gumboot Jul 2015 #118
Please. YoungDemCA Jul 2015 #125
I don't want any sympathy. Octafish Jul 2015 #126
This message was self-deleted by its author YoungDemCA Jul 2015 #129
I don't blame you. Here is my reaction... stevenleser Jul 2015 #147
When you don't have an argument, use an emoticon. Octafish Jul 2015 #149
. stevenleser Jul 2015 #150
''Unlike Octafish, I do my homework.'' -- stevenleser of DU Octafish Jul 2015 #156
See post #218 above. That will become a standard response to you. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #219
Your words, stevenleser. Octafish Jul 2015 #254
I've got your back, and I always will. A small handful of dead-enders can make lots of noise. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #127
Kick!!! haikugal Jul 2015 #128
Anywho, a reminder: YoungDemCA Jul 2015 #133
Of course it's a conspiracy, using position and power to enrich one's cronies. Octafish Jul 2015 #138
I do miss his silver hammer. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #134
Keep yer mighty pen a'flowin, Octafish. seafan Jul 2015 #135
So basically ablamj Jul 2015 #142
LOL! Anything to say about what I actually wrote -- on this thread or anywhere? Octafish Jul 2015 #143
i'm trying to figure ablamj Jul 2015 #144
When you figure it out let me know. I've been down the rabbit hole with him on this for two days now stevenleser Jul 2015 #146
I'm sure you're right ablamj Jul 2015 #160
Justice demands prosecution of traitors, war criminals, mass murderers, war profiteers and thieves. Octafish Jul 2015 #162
yes(see post 160) ablamj Jul 2015 #163
Yes I do. Octafish Jul 2015 #164
But do you personally believe ablamj Jul 2015 #172
apparently serial rapists are easy to ignore- women don't rate as important enough to get justice bettyellen Jul 2015 #176
While that may be your point, bettyellen, that's not what I think or wrote. Octafish Jul 2015 #196
Why don't you ablamj Jul 2015 #264
It also demands justice of rapists. LanternWaste Jul 2015 #245
Exactly- Octafish gets to judge who is criminal- the rest of us should STFU. Unless we agree! bettyellen Jul 2015 #175
Show where I've ever posted someone ''to STFU'' bettyellen. Octafish Jul 2015 #178
you posted about Foley - crimes not found- as guilty but just cannot say it about Cosby, LOL.... bettyellen Jul 2015 #179
All sorts of crimes regarding Foley were found. Octafish Jul 2015 #182
'Florida closes Foley investigation without charges" so by your Cosby standards, also innocent. bettyellen Jul 2015 #185
Not at all. Unlike you, Hastert & Boehner, I find the evidence compelling. Octafish Jul 2015 #195
As is the much testimony against Cosby, his lies and confession of employing drugs. bettyellen Jul 2015 #201
And note he wrote "Unlike you" accusing you of not finding the evidence against Foley compelling stevenleser Jul 2015 #212
Yeah, most of his replies have nothing to do with his dislike of calling Cos a rapist. bettyellen Jul 2015 #213
And he again asked upthread to provide examples of when he has accused other people of stuff stevenleser Jul 2015 #215
Lol, anything to deflect how he is basically a traitor to womankind. Society deserves protection.... bettyellen Jul 2015 #216
So now I'm a ''traitor to womankind''? Nice smear, bettyellen. Guess that's the best you can do... Octafish Jul 2015 #229
Another reply that has nothing to do with defending Cosby, LOL. bettyellen Jul 2015 #247
Sadly it is all too common BainsBane Jul 2015 #232
And we can't get through to him. He uses all these weird defense mechanisms instead of listening. stevenleser Jul 2015 #243
''The fact is that posting on DU is not 'fighting fascism''' -- stevenleser Octafish Jul 2015 #301
Keep it up carla Jul 2015 #145
Your Links and DU Posts are a "DU Treasure"..... KoKo Jul 2015 #159
I though Foley's case had "no criminal finding" so he's no more guilty than your BFF, Cosby.... bettyellen Jul 2015 #165
Florida dropped the case on grounds of ''insufficient evidence'' meaning GOP Congress covered up. Octafish Jul 2015 #181
LOL, and no one covered for Cosby. Sounds like two innocent lambs with conspiracy theories bettyellen Jul 2015 #186
Foley was in charge of protecting 'Missing and Exploited Children' Octafish Jul 2015 #191
No one accused you or "covering it up"? WTF? He wasn't found guilty- so he's not guilty according to your bettyellen Jul 2015 #193
Octafish, I love you. You obviously care enough to dig deep and hard towards AikidoSoul Jul 2015 #167
Too many links, just give us poor bastards some drugs ... seveneyes Jul 2015 #174
So…everything you posted about BFEE is wrong because… Bill Cosby? tularetom Jul 2015 #202
nope, you have that exactly backwards. His hypocrisy on Bill Cosby is somehow OK because he hates stevenleser Jul 2015 #220
Does Roger Ailes let you talk about anything related to the BFEE on tee vee? Octafish Jul 2015 #223
I'm not a Fox employee. So I can say anything I want. And we have proved you wrong dozens of times stevenleser Jul 2015 #225
Would you be if they offered you a job? Cleita Jul 2015 #230
You want me to publicly speculate on a nonexistent job offer? Yeah, that would be a good idea. stevenleser Jul 2015 #233
Why such umbrage? Cleita Jul 2015 #239
See Bainbanes #238 below, she says it better than I could stevenleser Jul 2015 #240
Sorry, the hypocrisy isn't apparent from where I'm standing tularetom Jul 2015 #226
Nope, there are half a dozen of us pointing out the same thing, so its not me. Nice try though. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #227
What I find interesting is exactly that tkmorris Jul 2015 #276
No. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #285
Fox News Contributors MoveIt Jul 2015 #207
There are no Fox News Contributors on DU. At least none that I am aware of. There are guests stevenleser Jul 2015 #214
Guest? Octafish Jul 2015 #221
Yes, guest, just like when I have been a guest on RT and elsewhere stevenleser Jul 2015 #224
By the way, am permalinking and sending this to my journal for reference to your ad hominems stevenleser Jul 2015 #228
What ad hominem from me? That's how Fox identified you. Octafish Jul 2015 #234
Nope, they wouldn't and never have, because I am not an employee. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #235
So those screen grabs are of someone with the same name as you who looks like you 3 times? Octafish Jul 2015 #265
Whose name should they have. What part of this don't you understand? Nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #267
You got at least three different job descriptions on FOX television. Octafish Jul 2015 #280
At least you've now moved the goalposts to where you are not accusing me of being an employee stevenleser Jul 2015 #281
Where did I accuse you of anything? Octafish Jul 2015 #286
If you mean that guy from that thing, yeah. Octafish Jul 2015 #222
Oh and in other words, you are accusing me of something here, but can't accuse Cosby. stevenleser Jul 2015 #251
Thanks for the welcome! MoveIt Jul 2015 #260
Welcome to DU. zappaman Jul 2015 #261
Who do you think MoveIt was, zappaman? Octafish Jul 2015 #263
Post #108 is awaiting your response zappaman Jul 2015 #266
Thanks for the reminder. Octafish Jul 2015 #272
You're very welcome, my old friend. zappaman Jul 2015 #273
I didn't know I had to answer to anyone. I'm that way with authority. Octafish Jul 2015 #278
No one said you had to, Brad. zappaman Jul 2015 #279
My name's not Brad, zappaman. It's Octafish. Octafish Jul 2015 #282
Have a great weekend, dude! zappaman Jul 2015 #283
You never did show where I am wrong, zappaman. Octafish Jul 2015 #287
Lol, right? Jumping right into a conflict with another DUer isn't remotely suspicious stevenleser Jul 2015 #268
You noticed that? Octafish Jul 2015 #262
Like Dennis Kucinich? BainsBane Jul 2015 #231
Yes, Dennis is a contributor, a paid employee of that network. I'm just a guest. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #237
That they know this originated from a discussion involving you BainsBane Jul 2015 #238
No. It's about Justice. You must have ''forgotten.'' Octafish Jul 2015 #244
And I and every other Democrat on this site agrees that Bush is a lying, asshole BainsBane Jul 2015 #248
Where did I ''dissemble''? I don't like being called a liar, BainsBane. Octafish Jul 2015 #255
They don't care about the women, like you said its a game to them about personalities on DU. stevenleser Jul 2015 #246
If you want to see someone treated as the enemy BainsBane Jul 2015 #249
I did a big piece on rape culture in 2013 with Marcotte and I should show you the stats on that show stevenleser Jul 2015 #250
You know you see it with coverage of the Runaways too.... bettyellen Jul 2015 #253
As should Rothschild family conspiracy theorists. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #284
Right you are. See for yourself. Octafish Jul 2015 #294
K R & B Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #271
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