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In reply to the discussion: What is Southern Heritage? [View all]Uncle Joe
(59,676 posts)3. Thanks for the rec, orpupilofnature, but would you care to elaborate?
I know that was the era before the Civil War.
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That was when everything for White people was Utopian, freedom from judgment, pride of
orpupilofnature57
Jul 2015
#7
If a flag does symbolize mainly "heritage", 60% heritage versus 40% racism, for example, that is 40% too much.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2015
#2
I have strong memories of that song, in High School we studied it, I don't recall
AuntPatsy
Jul 2015
#33
Believe it or not, there are many good fictional movies out there written by white men.
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#69
Yes it was fiction, but might that movie have had many real life similarities,
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#74
It's weird that slavery and African Americans were pretty much ignored regardless n/t
gollygee
Jul 2015
#145
Yes I did, I thought it was an interesting movie, I think what some people get upset about
AuntPatsy
Jul 2015
#83
The equivalent of 30 million Americans killed in a four year war and you think that's absurd?
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#27
Touché. That a failed racist nation had to be forcibly made to end racism is no reason to pity
Fred Sanders
Jul 2015
#61
Meanwhile, the successful racist nation continued to kill "red savages" after the Civil War
Art_from_Ark
Jul 2015
#91
After one racist nation was defeated the nation that emerged was not as racist as it was imperialistic.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2015
#103
Indeed. Seems like a lot of folks on the thread are not shocked by the history because they do not know it.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2015
#106
No, they just had child labor and horrible working conditions in factories
Art_from_Ark
Jul 2015
#203
I'm not suggesting that slavery wasn't an evil and ongoing atrocitiy, a major travesty
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#76
I as a Southerner don't, this OP is my attempt at explaining what "heritage not hatred"
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#84
No doubt it's atrocious, but that isn't the question posed that I was trying to answer
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#129
People can still feel an emotional connection to a region, nation or historical event without
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#244
Color blind in the sense that race is no longer a grounds for pre-concieved notions.
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#67
What I mean by color blind as being an ideal in that skin color means nothing more to the
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#184
I believe we're in agreement on the broad issue but I remember for the longest time
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#191
"Liberal" became the adjective for giving federal handouts to people that didn't earn
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#195
No he was not color blind. He was anti-racist and supported affirmative action
LostOne4Ever
Jul 2015
#43
That's precisely because society isn't colorblind or for that matter gender blind if it were such
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#54
A little light reading for you. (Hint: Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was not "colorblind")
gollygee
Jul 2015
#45
Any word can be misused or co-opted the word "liberal" being a prime example.
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#63
Do white people make pre-concieved assumptions about you because you're black or do black people
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#79
I know that, gollygee, it will take tremendous amounts of faith, patience, compassion, empathy,
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#86
That has nothing to do with whether MLK or they believe "color blind" is an ideal n/t
gollygee
Jul 2015
#142
The flag isn't the prism, each person has their own prism, reality or perception and within
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#158
No, you don't seem to understand MLK and substitute memes for real understanding.
bettyellen
Jul 2015
#199
You are too caught up in the Republican codeword and surrendered its true meaning.
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#200
Oh bullshit. I'm too caught up in real life. The colorblind meme is a way of dismissing reality.
bettyellen
Jul 2015
#201
My colorblind meme and MLK's dream are both in sync, a utopian vision of the future.
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#202
Don't you think with the qoute used MLK imagined a confederate flag over that table
Person 2713
Jul 2015
#22
I never said that MLK would imagine or envision a Confederate Flag at the table of brotherhood, what
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#25
And being SC was the first to succeed, it's fit they're first to join the 21st century .
orpupilofnature57
Jul 2015
#24
Except for a microscopic few, these flag-flyers' ancestors never wrote the articles of secession.
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#29
Common sense should tell you, the average white Southerner; quite a few of which were illiterate
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#39
You answered your own question? All you have to do is google the total numbers of
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#52
Like I started ,,Antebellum was enjoyed by not only the 1%, but All White people,,
orpupilofnature57
Jul 2015
#98
Well here's a Georgia County; that's 92% white, flies the Confederate Flag, its high school
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#28
It is what it is and if they didn't believe in "heritage not hate," I highly doubt
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#38
Profound post that explains why the Civil War still shapes the American character
Octafish
Jul 2015
#66
When you say 'shared suffering' who are you talking about? Whites and blacks suffered equally?
freshwest
Jul 2015
#73
If you read the OP, you would know that it was answering a specific question from CTyankee
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#90
I am really amazed by this thread. It's like watching toddlers with parallel play.
FourScore
Jul 2015
#164
Prussia/Germany has one major intangible advantage, they're an ancient nation.
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#138
Modern day Germany, but not the Germanic Peoples, they fought against Ancient Rome.
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#165
I'm of the mind that economics and easy politics has a play in this as well.
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#174
What is 'heritage'? What is the meaning of the word of choice here? Does 'heritage' mean 'history'?
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2015
#123
"Southern Heritage" = "I'm white and that makes me superior by default"
I_Like_Hammers
Jul 2015
#125
I have posted many times on this thread, that slavery was an absolute travesty.
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#162
Again, that was the question that I was answering, I will repost and bold the key words, take
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#209
And what of your guilt? I doubt you even read all of my OP and ensuing thread.
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#215
Well it's good that you're not buying something that I'm not trying to sell.
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#219
Thank you, frustrated_lefty the most profound lesson that I learned long after school
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#180
Sorry. I live in the south, but this is a view through rose-colored glasses
Adenoid_Hynkel
Jul 2015
#192
I lived in the South. I can tell you what it is. It's music, food, religion and social politeness.
ancianita
Jul 2015
#212
I agree, ancianita, the South is rich and diverse in many ways and I suspect over time
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#217
That's not the heritage the Confederate flag wavers are "celebrating" though.
Arugula Latte
Jul 2015
#222
But that's my answer to the OP's question.The sickening, white "right order of things" is dying out.
ancianita
Jul 2015
#225
Yeah, I love it. It's part of an Atlanta exhibit, I believe. So much lovely Southern art!
ancianita
Jul 2015
#227
I couldn't agree more, annabanana wanting to break up the USA was a bad idea.
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#234
'while also dealing with the largest percentage in the nation of having more than one race. '
La Lioness Priyanka
Jul 2015
#224
Personally, I find it enriching, the South's culture and its expanded influence
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#232
That's where you're wrong, I may have fought for the Union if I had been alive 150 years ago,
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#236
General Sherman warned the South not to secede and he was prescient in his prediction
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#238
So in other words you're suggesting a person shouldn't have expressed their disapproval
Uncle Joe
Jul 2015
#242