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In reply to the discussion: On Scott Walker [View all]herding cats
(19,569 posts)They're both going to be extremely well funded, and they're both a danger to the Democratic nominee in the GE.
If either, or both, of them can resonate with the Republican base enough to rally the troops, we're going to have a fight on our hands. Of the two of them, I actually think Walker can motivate their base better, it's what he does well, but Jeb has a better chance of pulling off winning the GE I'd think. Jeb has a chance at appealing to a broader array of voters than Walker. I still wouldn't discount Walker, though. If you can get the Republican's fired up against our candidate they can get a substantial amount of their voters to the polls who wold vote for a ham sandwich so long as it as a R behind it's name and not a D, things are going to be tough.
I was around for the 2000 election, when it was widely said the buffoon from Texas didn't have as much of a chance as he had brains in his head. Well, he won the nomination, and then he kept it tight enough that Florida swayed it for him in the GE. I know it came down to the Supreme Court ruling, but it was still due to Florida being so close. It wasn't Bush's personality, or his charisma that helped him, that's an excuse which came into play after he was elected, after 9/11, when people were validating their votes for him in my opinion. It was the simple fact that he wasn't a Democrat. No matter what was taking place in our country at the time, where the economy was, or if people were doing better than they had been 8 years before, if he was the right person to handle foreign affairs, etc. Republican's spent the entire previous two terms of Bill Clinton making the word Democrat a pejorative in the minds of specific people in this country. It resonated, and the end result was two wars, trillions of dollars in debt, two Supreme Court justices, housing bubble, economic collapse brought on by the financial crisis/scandal, and a subsequent recession which teetered on the cusp of another global depression.
After all that, there are too many American's who are no smarter than they were in 2000. Far too many. I will never again discount a seriously flawed Republican candidate by assuming the majority of voters actually use their brains, or even think about their own well being before voting. They don't care about their own well being, and they appear to have no ability to formulate theories for themselves if history is to be believed.
2016 is going to be more about that propaganda, and less about their candidate, I expect. Walker has strong support from the Koch brothers, so he's not out of it just because we find him to be devoid of normal emotions. They can get those from their base to blast alongside him in commercials if need be. Most voters don't watch the debates, or even the campaign speeches of the candidates. They see commercials on TV and they watch what the media and social media present to get a feel about their choices, that's all.