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In reply to the discussion: Wake up folks: nobody with power gives a fuck about you. [View all]just1voice
(1,362 posts)250. Read the news sometime, you might learn something
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-07/social-security-cuts-weighed-by-lawmakers-under-change-in-inflation-gauge.html
"President Barack Obama and lawmakers are considering cutting Social Security and increasing revenue by changing the way the government measures inflation.
...The idea, which was discussed both as part of a series of debt talks led by Vice President Joe Biden and by the Gang of Six, resurfaced yesterday during a meeting between Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and House Democrats, according to a congressional aide. Democrats pressed Geithner on the issue and he didn’t rule it out, according to the aide."
"President Barack Obama and lawmakers are considering cutting Social Security and increasing revenue by changing the way the government measures inflation.
...The idea, which was discussed both as part of a series of debt talks led by Vice President Joe Biden and by the Gang of Six, resurfaced yesterday during a meeting between Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and House Democrats, according to a congressional aide. Democrats pressed Geithner on the issue and he didn’t rule it out, according to the aide."
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The true Left would be wise to realize this and push for Leftist Democratic candidates.
Zalatix
May 2012
#4
You say this as an active member of the left in the US Democratic party I assume
Dragonfli
May 2012
#331
No. At this point they're about as polar opposite on most issues as you could get.
FarLeftFist
May 2012
#3
Yes, both parties agree that the deficit needs to be addressed, but they break on HOW to address it.
FarLeftFist
May 2012
#10
And neither one wants to do the *only* thing that's actually worked in the past
MannyGoldstein
May 2012
#19
quote is exactly what the hamp program did...nothing ..nothing was done to help until
xiamiam
May 2012
#199
Definately no Democrats at fault there, GOOD EXAMPLE to counter the point of weak Democrats
Dragonfli
May 2012
#208
Then why is the admin spending more of MY resources going after marijuana dispensers than
rhett o rick
May 2012
#309
When some try to hold them accountable they tell this lie "disgruntled non dems campaign openly
Dragonfli
May 2012
#233
Scott Walker was voted into office by the KOCH brothers $$$$. held accountable, not
crunch60
May 2012
#258
Then why did we have gridlock and obstruction in 2008? Maybe that's what our corporate
rhett o rick
May 2012
#310
Adults understand there's RARELY a choice between good and better when it comes to people leading
uponit7771
May 2012
#8
Aww, shucks. Thanks. And don't worry, I'm a netnostic. I don't believe in Godwin's Law.
Zorra
May 2012
#31
At least FDR actually fought for stuff and turned the 99% economy around
MannyGoldstein
May 2012
#40
Actually, FDR's federal works programs hired pretty much without discrimination
JDPriestly
May 2012
#110
the FarRightFist often has a little trouble with facts, yet speaks with such authority
Dragonfli
May 2012
#238
So you are happy with the current situation where JP Morgan loses $2b and the Pres pats
rhett o rick
May 2012
#312
i'll just leave you to campaign against the dems to your little hearts content.
dionysus
May 2012
#62
Jesus H. Christ, you're arguing like a teabagger against Obama. DU is no place for Obama haters.
FarLeftFist
May 2012
#89
He's distorting the facts. Dems and Republicans are the same? See Texas, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin
emulatorloo
May 2012
#215
"haters" and "bashers" and critics oh my, I for one think Obama is Christlike
Dragonfli
May 2012
#188
oh, he's just picking up the slack for BBI. someone has to break the DU TOS with damn near every
dionysus
May 2012
#56
Yep, your new target is in sight, you guys will cleanse the site of him promptly
Dragonfli
May 2012
#189
OOo I want to punch some hippies, can I? (I am newly converted to Third Way Ideology, HARD CORE)
Dragonfli
May 2012
#277
Most Modern Day Democrats Aren't The Same... They're Worse... They Have No Will To Fight...
WillyT
May 2012
#60
In all fairness they are consistent and are less than enthusiastic re the Walker recall as well /nt
Dragonfli
May 2012
#242
Saying Democratic politicians and Republican politicians are the same can only help Republicans.
baldguy
May 2012
#317
If "both parties work for the 1%," and if I am a member of the Democratic Party, where's my pay?
AnotherMcIntosh
May 2012
#235
No thank you. You are saying that he's expressing himself badly. I am not. 208 recs and counting
AnotherMcIntosh
May 2012
#265
So why did you find a problem with "both parties work for the 1%"?
muriel_volestrangler
May 2012
#274
Obviously, or it should be obvious, you are using Manning's phrase out of context to mean something
AnotherMcIntosh
May 2012
#282
What utter 3rd party advocating, GOP assisting, vote suppressing fresh hell is this?
Tarheel_Dem
May 2012
#66
You get the Democrats that you can get elected, where ever you can get them elected
MrScorpio
May 2012
#70
I see progress although, like you, I wish it were more pronounced...
AynRandCollectedSS
May 2012
#298
Yes. Although the official story is that a law firm "accidentally" released it, I'd like to believe
AnotherMcIntosh
May 2012
#303
We can't follow the money. It has been flowing to the 1% for the past 20 years, and
jtuck004
May 2012
#120
Lyndon Johnson was a great politician. He was able to get the Civil Rights act passed,
blue neen
May 2012
#96
Why Nader? Is he still being true to traditional Democratic principles?
AnotherMcIntosh
May 2012
#130
"when it comes to the psychology of the mind, they are as much a Right Wing Authoritarian as any
Dragonfli
May 2012
#322
That is because they are psychologically the same, authoritarian followers of what they perceive
Dragonfli
May 2012
#328
And you, "dear", are engaging in Argument Ad Hominem. Why not stick to the subject, rather than
Romulox
May 2012
#171
Direct quote: "Hackneyed and difficult to argue with as the person employing this cheapo tactic"
Romulox
May 2012
#177
And I was so sure this OP was going to announce the start of the Progressive Prz 2016
JoePhilly
May 2012
#166
Got that right, there is no more democracy, there is only oligarchy of the 1%. K&R
mother earth
May 2012
#167
The Status Quo is the ONLY realistic system possible. Remember that, and you'll be fine.
Romulox
May 2012
#172
except those who believe blindly..that is not us..thats what they turned us into..non thinkers
xiamiam
May 2012
#206
manny, actually most people know this now, maybe not on the new du, but out here in america
xiamiam
May 2012
#211
Get you "tossed off of DU?" Your divisive, unintelligent, overused and incorrect OP got 173 recs.
great white snark
May 2012
#212
That this OP is typical of Manny. He often tells us of Obama's Secret Plan to Destroy Social Securit
emulatorloo
May 2012
#236
Well let's see. Find where I claimed Manny could not post his opinion here
emulatorloo
May 2012
#266
You do realize Manny that they have nothing and so will ignore your challenge
Dragonfli
May 2012
#326
You're right, of course. The snark attack words, with quote marks, don't appear anywhere in the OP.
AnotherMcIntosh
May 2012
#241
You are in the wrong OP then, He never said Dem=GOP, you putting those words in his mouth
Dragonfli
May 2012
#273
That is EXACTLY what Manny said. He said Dems and Repugs both work for the 1% that means
stevenleser
May 2012
#292
I admire how you patiently explain this to one willfully trying to misread the post
Dragonfli
May 2012
#325
In your mind perhaps, feel free to rewrite the OP at will, I will still read the actual OP
Dragonfli
May 2012
#324
That is what all the promises are for, the ones they tell to get elected and then do the opposite
Dragonfli
May 2012
#246
183 recs and counting. As long as DU3 has an ignore button, those who want orthodoxy instead of
AnotherMcIntosh
May 2012
#226
You saw something that I didn't. I didn't see a reference to the Ryan Plan in Manny's OP.
AnotherMcIntosh
May 2012
#240
Also, you have to squint a little, and cover your left eye, but it's in there I swear!!! /nt
Dragonfli
May 2012
#278
Too literal minded? "Yes" if you mean understanding the words that were used
AnotherMcIntosh
May 2012
#281
My ex is a die hard O'reilly watching, Limbaugh listening GOPER. This is the only thing we agreed
jillan
May 2012
#260
Respectfully, your ex is wrong. While Repubs have uniform beliefs, the Democratic Party consists
AnotherMcIntosh
May 2012
#268
Since this is now election season, I was hoping to get more bones thrown at us for a few months.
AnotherMcIntosh
May 2012
#284
The Dems are systematically purging the Progessives from the party
Dont call me Shirley
May 2012
#286
yes, that has been going on sice at least clinton and his de-regulation, free trade, welfare killing
Dragonfli
May 2012
#330
You really need to clarify that, on it's surface it came off as a "left handed compliment"
Dragonfli
May 2012
#329