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278. Oh boy - this was what you were talking about

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Agschmid Jul 2015 OP

Good post! bravenak Jul 2015 #1

I'm sorry, when Sanders gets attacked over his racial politics, that's gonna come up. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #7

We do not need lecture from white people on civil right protesting. bravenak Jul 2015 #20

I will not say I completely understand, SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #55

+1 Agschmid Jul 2015 #56

Thanks! bravenak Jul 2015 #59

Thank you. SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #61

This is why I love you, bravenak! n/t freshwest Jul 2015 #112

Love you too!nt bravenak Jul 2015 #113

Then maybe this man will help. mmonk Jul 2015 #148

Do you not know you are patronizing me? An intelligent black woman? bravenak Jul 2015 #151

Then make your case, do not accuse. mmonk Jul 2015 #174

He cancelled his meeting with black lives matter. I cannot support that. bravenak Jul 2015 #176

I'm a supporter and also a member of the NC NAACP. mmonk Jul 2015 #182

He turned his back and walked away. That's bridge burning. bravenak Jul 2015 #183

I understand. mmonk Jul 2015 #191

Bernie cancelled after his the #BLM "disruption" of his talk? daredtowork Jul 2015 #208

I hope he changed his mind. I'd love to support him but cannot until he does better with BLM. bravenak Jul 2015 #213

OMG that's bad daredtowork Jul 2015 #216

It's still going on somewhat. bravenak Jul 2015 #217

lol, I might have to check that out. daredtowork Jul 2015 #220

I think we should give him a day or two. bravenak Jul 2015 #221

Just a clarification marym625 Jul 2015 #303

He needs to go now. It's necessary. bravenak Jul 2015 #310

The poster is just voicing and opinion not lecturing. The person has based his opinion on his still_one Jul 2015 #230

I wasn't saying they were. bravenak Jul 2015 #231

got it. Thanks still_one Jul 2015 #232

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #250

For you, bravenak. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #302

Thank you. They made me HOT!!!! bravenak Jul 2015 #311

Exactly. I have every right to talk about my candidate's track record. cui bono Jul 2015 #115

+1 orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #128

bravenak has brought up Hillary's 2007-2008 race baiting a number of times in comments I've seen. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #172

"crybabies who whine that their guy/gal marched with Dr. king or marched in a protest or blah blah" cui bono Jul 2015 #116

I'll tell you why. bravenak Jul 2015 #117

Why do you dismiss Sander's stance as only what he did 50 years ago? cui bono Jul 2015 #121

I also did not like how he handled himself today. bravenak Jul 2015 #123

The thing is he is fighting for social justice all the time and he has been speaking about it cui bono Jul 2015 #126

Good night! bravenak Jul 2015 #142

Any politician would have cancelled a meeting jfern Jul 2015 #129

No, "any politician" would not have cancelled the meeting afterward. Martin O'Malley didn't. Cha Jul 2015 #138

No. Martin did not cancel. bravenak Jul 2015 #141

Bravnak, Your condolences when I was kicked out of AA meant the world to me, but your anger for orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #136

That was not a CONDOLENCE!! I don't need this. bravenak Jul 2015 #139

This message was self-deleted by its author orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #153

Yes, you are hurt. What do you think we feel like when we are treated like the enemy? My family jwirr Jul 2015 #193

I don't think you have it as hard as the average black woman. bravenak Jul 2015 #195

Yes, I read those posts also. I really do not have a choice about who I care for - the people in jwirr Jul 2015 #197

Feeling a bit like a political football right now, bravenak? LiberalAndProud Jul 2015 #255

Yes. I feel like a pawn. bravenak Jul 2015 #259

Embrace the power. LiberalAndProud Jul 2015 #260

I need to side jump a Queen. :) bravenak Jul 2015 #261

Berrie's candidacy is a tiny seedling challenging Goliath, easy to destroy it when it's young lostnfound Jul 2015 #283

I am now joining you in having no candidate. MohRokTah Jul 2015 #144

I will join you in waiting for the person who addresses this issue. I'm still pissed. bravenak Jul 2015 #145

LOL. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #146

You, as an African American, don't own the civil rights movement. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #147

I own it more than you. bravenak Jul 2015 #149

No, you don't. Nor do you get to rewrite history. Bernie was there. Hillary wasn't! nt Romulox Jul 2015 #150

Obviously I do. It's apparent. Do you own the black civil rights movement more than I? bravenak Jul 2015 #152

No, it's not obvious, even a little bit. The history stands. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #154

Obtuse. bravenak Jul 2015 #156

No, I just disagree with you. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #157

Yes. Because you're wrong. You can stop posting to me now. bravenak Jul 2015 #158

You also don't control who posts. Becoming silly. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #159

Still at it, eh? I'm feeling abused. bravenak Jul 2015 #160

You're abused because I'm posting a disagreement? That's odd. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #161

Stop heckling me!!! Waaaah!!! I was trying to give a speech!!!nt bravenak Jul 2015 #162

The analogy falls apart because DU is a *conversation*, not a *speech*. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #164

So rude and disruptive the way you keep heckling me. bravenak Jul 2015 #165

This was a bizarre exchange, to say the least! nt Romulox Jul 2015 #265

That poster was rude, bombastic, insulting... You handled it with class. boston bean Jul 2015 #163

I'm feeling a bit heckled here. bravenak Jul 2015 #167

If I ran the place, the banhammer would have fallen in an instant. boston bean Jul 2015 #168

Seriously. bravenak Jul 2015 #170

a-yup! that is the mindset that is being dealt with. boston bean Jul 2015 #171

You want to ban me because of what I've posted to *you* though. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #270

What are you talking about? boston bean Jul 2015 #271

Your memory *sure* is short, eh? Romulox Jul 2015 #273

no, your posts to me were so insignificant that I never gave it a second thought. boston bean Jul 2015 #274

Nobody (not even you) believes that. This was a tacky display on your part, Romulox Jul 2015 #276

Happens a lot that posts that discuss misogyny and sexism on DU are locked. boston bean Jul 2015 #277

I guess you remember, now? nt Romulox Jul 2015 #280

You seem to be weirdly pre-occupied with me. boston bean Jul 2015 #279

I was responding to your call for my banning. Talk about pot meeting kettle! nt Romulox Jul 2015 #281

Well, if I did run the place, I would have. boston bean Jul 2015 #286

Nobody would frequent a forum where you ran the place, though. Romulox Jul 2015 #288

umm, you're in a bunch of threads responding to me. So, I've taken the liberty boston bean Jul 2015 #289

This is the second one. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #290

good for you for keeping track... see what I mean about a weird pre-occupation?? boston bean Jul 2015 #292

Is it possible for an anonymous internet poster to be "heckled"? brentspeak Jul 2015 #301

You forgot racist. KitSileya Jul 2015 #233

Good thing you didn't! nt Romulox Jul 2015 #269

Feelings still hurt, huh? nt Romulox Jul 2015 #266

Awesome. zappaman Jul 2015 #207

Oh boy - this was what you were talking about JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #278

Yes!! Can you believe this? bravenak Jul 2015 #284

I believe it because I did a little searching this morning JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #293

Seriously? Lilith Rising Jul 2015 #186

Yes, seriously. Bernie's history is what it is. As is Hillary's. Nobody can change that. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #267

Out of line. Agschmid Jul 2015 #251

She gave better than she got. I think she's ok. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #268

Where precisely, was possession directly implied? LanternWaste Jul 2015 #300

So when you are out there marching you do not want our support. Because Dr. King did. And many jwirr Jul 2015 #189

See where you went? Damn. I did not expect this from you. I'm hurt. bravenak Jul 2015 #192

I am sorry that I made you feel that way. I can understand why you feel that way about the past. jwirr Jul 2015 #196

I understand how you feel about Hillary, since I pretty much feel the same. bravenak Jul 2015 #198

I agree. And the employment argument is to the point. Hiring a staffer is different than just a jwirr Jul 2015 #200

I'm a Bernista, and I get it 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #2

They all need to "bone up" I've been unimpressed by all 3 up to this point. Agschmid Jul 2015 #3

^^THIS^^ SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #75

I just watched live stream of Bernie in Pheonix. He totally listened, and 'got it" 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #82

If he listens, SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #83

What's the rumor about him cancelling a meeting with the #BlackLivesMovement group? daredtowork Jul 2015 #218

As much as I look for it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #224

+1,000 malaise Jul 2015 #124

+ 1000 Well Put !!!!!! orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #132

What's Hillarys plan? HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #4

This... Agschmid Jul 2015 #6

BLM had a meeting scheduled with Sanders. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #10

Again patronizing... Agschmid Jul 2015 #12

Alert if you like. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #17

Not going to alert, I'm just frustrated by your response. Agschmid Jul 2015 #19

You don't think its low class for a NRN employee to set up an ambush? HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #24

Send me the link for this I haven't seen it posted anywhere, once I read it I'll get back to you... Agschmid Jul 2015 #26

Elon James White, Media Director for NRN HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #46

This is frustrating to see. Agschmid Jul 2015 #85

I went to the link and have all the tweets. Nothing abour bragging or a set up: freshwest Jul 2015 #109

Those tweets were after the fact, and it was well known that this was a plan. boston bean Jul 2015 #166

Where does that say that he knew ahead of time and bragged about it in advance? George II Jul 2015 #239

. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #240

THAT? How do you know he wasn't referring to people in the audience who were there... George II Jul 2015 #241

Yea, right <rolleyes> HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #245

And how do you know all of this? It's pure conjecture steeped in "conspiracy theory" and.... George II Jul 2015 #247

He made the tweets. They're time-stamped in advance. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #248

And NOWHERE did he say there was a hijack coming. It's a faux conspiracy. George II Jul 2015 #249

This right here is why black folks on this board are leery of Sanders and his supporters. bravenak Jul 2015 #23

What is productive about disrupting allies? HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #28

Indeed what is productive about disrupting allies, it's a great damn question Agschmid Jul 2015 #29

It gets the message out. Makes people say Black lives matter. bravenak Jul 2015 #31

Attacking your would-be allies is no way to get the message out. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #60

Why would I bother with Republicans? You want black folks to try their luck with Republicans? bravenak Jul 2015 #68

Well, if they are pissed at Democrats... HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #79

Look up the word empathy okay? Really though. bravenak Jul 2015 #84

I totally empathize with BLMs cause, 1000%. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #88

Oh I get it. Was is disgusting and self defeating when Code Pink did it to Condi? bravenak Jul 2015 #91

Was Condi an ally of Code Pink? HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #94

They were the most productive thing at Netroots. bravenak Jul 2015 #95

I am sure there wasn't a single person there unaware of the issue beforehand. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #97

Does your Facebook feed have lots of black people in it? bravenak Jul 2015 #98

About 10%. And about 90% liberal. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #99

Ten percent? Very small amount. bravenak Jul 2015 #100

It's about the demographics of my area. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #101

Yeah, it's facebook. Not all of my facebook friends live here in Anchorage. bravenak Jul 2015 #102

BLM had an opportunity to talk face to face. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #105

Really? That sounds stupid. bravenak Jul 2015 #108

Talking to others, what I mean. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #110

He'd better get his talk on quick. bravenak Jul 2015 #111

Yes and my feed is all about the crazy weather we had yesterday nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #210

What did Code Pink accomplish? HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #103

Made people pay attention. bravenak Jul 2015 #104

Who wasn't paying attention? HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #106

Most of America. bravenak Jul 2015 #107

Sanders had a meeting scheduled with BLM jfern Jul 2015 #133

He CANCELLED! Now that can really really say he doesn't give a shit. bravenak Jul 2015 #140

This message was self-deleted by its author nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #35

Just wondering why some think the 2007 candidate of "hardworking people, white people" eridani Jul 2015 #41

I have no idea. Seriously. I cannot like her. bravenak Jul 2015 #54

Demographics 1939 Jul 2015 #175

So demographics is now more relvant than dog whistle politics? eridani Jul 2015 #203

What are you talking about? 1939 Jul 2015 #223

You are sayng that the dog whistler would be better for people of color eridani Jul 2015 #234

There was no debate at the NRN. Just a planned ambush and disruption. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #69

You need an empathy infusion. bravenak Jul 2015 #71

"Maybe Sanders needs to hire some black people to explain it to him." SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #77

I really think it's a good idea. I keep repeating it just in case somebody decides to tell him 4 me. bravenak Jul 2015 #78

Well, the Houston event is looking really diverse, SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #81

How can that post make you leary of Sanders? What did he have to do with it? cui bono Jul 2015 #119

Rude and patronizing, that's why. bravenak Jul 2015 #120

But that has nothing to do with Bernie. cui bono Jul 2015 #122

I did not like Hillary supporters last time and I truely think it has had a long term effect on my bravenak Jul 2015 #125

I am a Sanders supporter. I like you. I think that Sander's version of economic justice Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #188

I think the best thing for him right now would be to spend alot of time with those protestors. bravenak Jul 2015 #194

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #131

I think her plan jfern Jul 2015 #130

Oh, it's absolutely gotten Scootaloo Jul 2015 #5

First, this belongs in Primaries nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #8

This isn't about any candidate... Agschmid Jul 2015 #11

Who said they should? Though many of my local leaders nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #13

No, it belongs right here. zappaman Jul 2015 #62

Waiting for Nadin to now say "Hey 2 people think it should be in GD"... Agschmid Jul 2015 #76

Black lives matter discussion belongs in GD. boston bean Jul 2015 #169

No one has sent a SOP alert... Agschmid Jul 2015 #178

well, you never know. she may have been trying to plant the seed boston bean Jul 2015 #179

Yup. Agschmid Jul 2015 #181

Wrong. I don't play those shitty games nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #199

Still not one single SOP alert. Agschmid Jul 2015 #226

I do not alert nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #235

You absolutelty have a right to your opinion, as do I. Agschmid Jul 2015 #236

I will not participate in a broken system nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #237

Yup I get it. Agschmid Jul 2015 #238

Of course they are angry. But that anger needs to be channeled to BillZBubb Jul 2015 #9

Agreed. You don't play your allies like adversaries. DinahMoeHum Jul 2015 #47

If this is related to the distrupting of the O'Malley/Sanders rally romanic Jul 2015 #14

There's no agenda here except that the #BLM should be heard, and if this is what takes... Agschmid Jul 2015 #16

Well then BLM needs to go to a GOP rally romanic Jul 2015 #22

Here is the deal we've had a Democratic President for well on 6+ years now... Agschmid Jul 2015 #25

Fair enough. romanic Jul 2015 #27

Then they should take up the problem with Obama... HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #33

If they're even brave enough to deal with the Republicans romanic Jul 2015 #34

Obama should have demanded Holder's resignation TexasBushwhacker Jul 2015 #209

I agree 100% HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #214

You must be reading Reporting San Diego nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #215

Absolutely TexasBushwhacker Jul 2015 #219

The problem is that most press is not covering this aspect nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #222

I would dearly love to see that. SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #87

That is pure BS. They are being heard all right, who didn't hear them snagglepuss Jul 2015 #262

Sure that might work... Agschmid Jul 2015 #263

It's more than being angry, no one is owed a vote gwheezie Jul 2015 #15

This... Agschmid Jul 2015 #18

The disorder that occurred during the '68 Convention resulted in Nixon oasis Jul 2015 #63

You can understand somesones anger... Lancero Jul 2015 #21

That's spin and totally untrue..we know why they're angry, he'll we're angry too! haikugal Jul 2015 #30

My post is spin? Agschmid Jul 2015 #32

Is Sanders responsible? HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #36

I don't see it as rude, sorry. Agschmid Jul 2015 #39

Disrupting and tweeting only works to a point. romanic Jul 2015 #43

If it quacks like a duck... romanic Jul 2015 #37

Unwarranted police violence against African Americans is "spin"... Agschmid Jul 2015 #40

Now you're putting words in my mouth. romanic Jul 2015 #44

Nice edit... Agschmid Jul 2015 #49

I just get angry when some use deaths in the black community by police romanic Jul 2015 #52

Ammo for what? Agschmid Jul 2015 #53

I'm not entertaining you anymore. romanic Jul 2015 #57

Seriously... Agschmid Jul 2015 #58

Good to know that now two people said this belongs in GD-P nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #64

This isn't about a candidate, the fact that some people can't have a discussion without that... Agschmid Jul 2015 #65

And it was aimed nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #72

Okay. Agschmid Jul 2015 #74

Project much? haikugal Jul 2015 #48

You said people here don't know why BLM is angry... haikugal Jul 2015 #42

No I don't "get it" and it wasn't spin. Agschmid Jul 2015 #45

You're saying we don't get it when we do. You're spinning like a top. haikugal Jul 2015 #50

Goodbye. Agschmid Jul 2015 #51

Police Violence Is Real kcjohn1 Jul 2015 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author Peregrine Took Jul 2015 #66

You know, I've been doing my best to process what went down at the Netroots forum ever since it scarletwoman Jul 2015 #67

This ^^^^^^^^^^^ bravenak Jul 2015 #70

YES. Agschmid Jul 2015 #73

It's a very brave act. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #80

Yes! Agschmid Jul 2015 #86

+1000. jen63 Jul 2015 #92

Well said ibegurpard Jul 2015 #96

+a million. And when 'progressive' Dems stop listening to their most loyal base, they lose. freshwest Jul 2015 #114

Awesome post! gollygee Jul 2015 #143

Yup. Agschmid Jul 2015 #180

+1000 boston bean Jul 2015 #173

Yes! It needs to be done more, not less!! MerryBlooms Jul 2015 #177

Yes! Exactly and thank you. Lilith Rising Jul 2015 #184

this is real talk. Quayblue Jul 2015 #190

Transgression against the powerful is powerful. Let's see this and more to the establishment TheKentuckian Jul 2015 #225

K&R for being absolutely right... giftedgirl77 Jul 2015 #227

Life in America is unpleasant Prism Jul 2015 #243

Marvelous. Well said. Number23 Jul 2015 #264

I don't understand why white people aren't angry. intheflow Jul 2015 #89

Can't speak for the rest of us, but SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #90

All right, then! intheflow Jul 2015 #93

I'm pissed off, too, Blue_In_AK Jul 2015 #314

No reminder is needed for me. TM99 Jul 2015 #118

Thanks for this post JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #134

Interrupting this thread to report on Clinton JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #127

Clinton doesn't give a shit about progressives or BLM jfern Jul 2015 #135

I wouldn't call it a firing squad JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #137

Nobody should ever even try MuseRider Jul 2015 #155

^^^THIS^^^ SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #185

Don't get why BLM is angry? So now we are all the enemy? I have no problem understanding jwirr Jul 2015 #187

. haikugal Jul 2015 #202

I pointed to Bravenak in particular what is happening here in San Diego. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #204

Your last sentence is one of the reasons I like Bernie. If there is anything he would know because jwirr Jul 2015 #211

Yup, he went to college at a time when quotas were quite overt nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #212

+1000 HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #246

THANK YOU Skittles Jul 2015 #252

The protestors were not turning us into "enemies". They were challenging us to prove scarletwoman Jul 2015 #253

I know that but IMO it backfired. He was answering their questions and they just yelled louder. If jwirr Jul 2015 #254

Honestly, the only people I'm feeling alienated from are the ones criticising BLM for what they did scarletwoman Jul 2015 #257

Listen to what romanic Jul 2015 #256

Really? stranger81 Jul 2015 #305

I'm sorry, I simply can't think of anything to say in the face of such massive cluelessness. scarletwoman Jul 2015 #306

I'm sorry, but those statements make it very clear who perceives whom as their enemy. stranger81 Jul 2015 #307

My apologies. I will endeavor to come more to the point: scarletwoman Jul 2015 #308

And you prove my point in under three posts. stranger81 Jul 2015 #309

worthy of its own thread Skittles Jul 2015 #313

Thank you for expressing that so well. Blue_In_AK Jul 2015 #315

And to think... people on here don't get why #BLM is angry? Stellar Jul 2015 #201

"...just 'talking' won't do it"? JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2015 #205

Discussion will eventually solve this issue... Agschmid Jul 2015 #228

None of the Democratic candidates measure up for the hyper-radicals. What a shocker. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #206

People here know why BLM is angry. What the problem is, you don't invite people to a town hall and still_one Jul 2015 #229

I don't think anyone here doesn't understand why #BLM is angry, but hughee99 Jul 2015 #242

Yes, that is the question. Wish we could get an answer other than we do not understand. mmonk Jul 2015 #244

Bingo. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #272

I don't see any evidence BLM is mad at Bernie. Only Hillary supporters insinuate he is a racist. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #282

Then you haven't been seeing what the leaders of the moment said mmonk Jul 2015 #285

link? nt Romulox Jul 2015 #287

It's all over the internet. Would take quite awhile to gather it mmonk Jul 2015 #294

I don't doubt you, but it's hard to quantify that. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #295

I understand but I'm bowing out of the whole thing. It was a statement protest mmonk Jul 2015 #298

And they did not say he was racist. They said he doesn't care about the issue. mmonk Jul 2015 #297

and THAT just seems to fly right over soooooo many heads Skittles Jul 2015 #312

Let's hope that NY's Governor Cuomo will start a trend fadedrose Jul 2015 #258

I keep asking ... ananda Jul 2015 #275

It's time for massive protests. Force the leaders in office Autumn Jul 2015 #291

Well said JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #296

Yes. mmonk Jul 2015 #299

Yes! Agschmid Jul 2015 #304